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Posted on 06/10/2002 4:14:03 PM PDT by hchutch
Democrats.com: Bush Avoids All Responsibility for Sept. 11; BuckStopsThere.com Launched With Events in SF, Berkeley
To: Metro Desk
Contact: David Lytel of Democrats.com, 202-248-0339
WASHINGTON, June 10 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Democrats.com, the largest independent community of Democrats, will launch an offensive this week to force President George W. Bush to take responsibility for the diplomatic and intelligence failures that led to the attacks of September 11. So far, Bush has refused to hold anyone responsible for the failures that provoked the terrorist attack and allowed it to succeed. Instead, Bush announced a plan to reorganize minor government agencies - but NOT the agencies most responsible for the failure to stop September 11: the FBI, CIA, National Security Council, the Defense Department, and the FAA.
In response to this attempted evasion of responsibility, Democrats.com will launch a new Web site called "BuckStopsThere.com" with events this week in San Francisco and Berkeley. The events are to be held on Thursday June 13 at Maya, a restaurant in San Francisco, starting at 5:30 p.m. and on Friday, June 14, at Cafe de la Paz, a restaurant in Berkeley, starting at 5 p.m. There is more information about these events at http://www.democrats.com/nocal or it is available by sending an e-mail message to events@democrats.com.
According to Democrats.com co-founder Bob Fertik, "The President is ultimately responsible for the failures of his government. President Harry Truman hit the nail on the head when he declared, 'The Buck Stops Here.' George W. Bush claims to be an admirer of Truman. But when it comes to September 11 for Bush, the buck stops THERE -- somewhere, anywhere, as long as it is far away from Bush himself. Hence our new Web site at http://www.buckstopsthere.com."
According to Democrats.com co-founder David Lytel, "BuckStopsThere.com is focused on identifying ALL of the senior officials in the Bush administration whose actions -- or inactions -- led to the catastrophic events of September 11. This includes the State Department officials who, in secret negotiations with the Taliban in the summer of 2001, threatened Afghanistan with an all out attack if they failed to approve a natural gas pipeline proposed by California-based Unocal. It also includes failure to take obvious precautions in response to the numerous warnings prior to 911, and also the failure to respond in real time as the attack unfolded on that fateful -- but not unexpected -- day."
Now in its third year, Democrats.com is the largest independent community of Democrats and a leading vendor of Internet campaign services to Democratic candidates and committees. Calling themselves "the aggressive progressives," Democrats.com publishes the most widely circulated commercially sponsored electronic newsletters for Democrats, and engages Democrats in focused and effective political action. Its goal is to make the Democratic Party a more effective vehicle for the opposition to the Bush presidency and for the presentation of a progressive, alternative agenda. More about what Democrats.com has done recently is available online at http://www.democrats.com/lately
i sent that DUer packing.
Also, thanks for all you guys do!!
Their press conf. for June 10 was drowned out, though, by the "dirty bomb" announcement, so I have no idea what the meeting portended. A suspicious person might think announcing a month old arrest was very timely for drowning out a serious inquiry. Thank G-d I'm not suspicious, but I have started looking around for my tin foil hat ;')
Everyone is looking in the wrong direction. It's not Presidents, it's not the CIA, the NSA, or the FBI. None of those agencies decide foreign policy. They must act on orders of the State Department in matters of foreign policy.
It is true that the President sets the grand sweep of foreign policy, but the mid-level to small details over the entire globe, regarding trivialities, protocols and such, are handled by the large and somewhat ossified State Department. No one person could do that.
Ever since oil was pumped from Saudi Arabia, we have known that Saudi Princes are arrogant and dictatorial and have only gotten worse. They are easily offended.
Given that our entire economy, the greatest in the world, and the techonology that makes us the mightiest in the world, depends largely on oil, the State Department has had long standing orders not to offend Saudis over trivial matters. CIA spies are just lackeys for embassies and they don't want to lose their job.
The problem is, the State Department, which can indeed boss all our spy agencies on matters of foreign affairs, decides what is trivial or not. Saudis have been allowed to visit here and do things that would get you or I arrested for many, many years. Compared to the flow of oil, State Department Diktat was that most other things were trivial. Terrorism was trivial.
That idea should have been changed after a lot of marines and sailors were killed, but the State Department operates on the bankrupt philosophy of RealPolitik. Moral considerations like avenging our troops don't count with them. And of course, as one of our oldest and most idiot-riddled bureacracies (considering most of their decisions), they were unlikely to change long standing tradition even if it was a good idea.
So yes, our intel agencies were hampered and told to go soft and not make trouble where Saudis were involved. That is why we are seeing all these wierd anomalies, and why we should get to the bottom of them. But it has nothing to do with Presidents. It never even got that far. Given the thousands of government departments that would have to be mastered by a new administration, along with enacting their agenda, it is doubtful every nook and cranny or every odd rule was scrutinized. This is all low level chaff that has been in the system since World War II. So although some think it would be grand to blame Bush, and some think it would be great to blame Clinton, and nearly everyone hates the FBI, CIA, and NSA, I think we need to look to our thoroughly rotten State Department and its decades old standing orders to not offend Saudis for the real fly in the ointment. It's so obvious it's staring everyone in the face, but nobody sees it.
That's my opinion, anyway.
Now go yell at Bog Fertile ;')
Must take after his mother.
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Well, now, let's not forget the courtship of the Taliban waged by the new administration before 9/11 just so we can get our little much-needed pipeline through to Siberia. Clinton is not in office. Bush is. So maybe we better clean that closet just a little before we open it.How many times did clintoon decide NOT to fight terrorism, huh? Plenty.
I've always wondered what works best on a DUer, smart bomb or dumb bomb?
Bring it on!
The phone is still ringing on this one............
Well said, Meek. Thanks for the ping.
And talking about cleaning out closets, does Monica still owns that dress with Bills 'well you know what'.
We were having a conversation about the same thing today and felt "Neo-Communist Party" to describe the Democratic Party was both appropriate and had that "progressive" sound to it.
I also labled Democrats as now "Neo-Communists at post #31 here
a couple of days ago. Lt's keep it rolling.
Official Dem. leadership is now on record as having blamed the President of the United States for the death of thousands of innocent US civilians on 9-11 while his administration has been working 24/7 to rebuild the depleted and demoralized military (from the Dem. years), patch up the many holes in immigration, intel, justice, hold together an international coalition, hunt down and bring to justice militant Muslim cells with one shared goal...to destroy Western Civilization...the same goal they bragged about, and Clinton buried (but the Senate knew), during the Clinton years...when most of these same critics were in DC. Benedict who?Repeated DIMocRAT attacks on Bush repeatedly repelled........
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