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Anthrax, Dr. Strangelove, and TV's Millennium
A Different Drummer ^ | 9 June 2002 | Nicholas Stix

Posted on 06/08/2002 9:20:07 AM PDT by mrustow

Article shows how the notion that the anthrax killer was a "home-grown" terrorist was concocted and spread by Marxist professor Barabara Hatch Rosenberg, who stole her theory from a TV series.


TOPICS: Anthrax Scare; Canada; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida; US: New Jersey; US: New York; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: academialist; anthrax; barbarahrosenberg; biofraud; bioterror; bioterrorism; biowarfare; chriscarter; culturewar; domesticterrorism; enviralists; espionagelist; europelist; frankblack; injury; jihadinamerica; millennium; newworldorder; nwo; rosenberghoax; traitorlist; wmd
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To: mrustow
Sorry another error...

the Black Virgin coming to Clare in a boat appears to be a reference to a legend cocerning a mysterious boat without oars that docked in Bologne Sur Mer, France during the reign of Dagobert I. On board was a statue of the Virgin Mary holding the Child Jesus in her left arm.

The boat that came to France was holding Mary Magdeline, who was pregnant with Jesus child. This was long before Dagobert I. Thus the real Holy Grail, or San Graal was Mary's womb holding the blood of Jesus in the form of their child. The authors theorise as do other scholars that Jesus couldn't have been a Rabbi without being married.

After Jesus death, Paul (a misogynist) came along and took away the teachings of Jesus from James the brother of Jesus and drastically changed Jesus' message and began preaching his own message instead.

Thus we have the incarnation of the roman catholic church, a man oriented religion that deleted MM's part in Jesus life and/or changed her into a whore.

In Leonardo DV's Last Supper the person on Jesus left as you look at the painting is Mary Magdeline. Paul did not like it that Jesus let Mary M. become an apostle. The other apostles questioned him about why he liked her better than them and why he kissed her on the mouth. Paul set out to completely destroy Mary Magdeline's part of Jesus work.

The black virgins were made after Mary M. got to Marseilles, the people there knew who and what she was and she was revered. Most of the black virgins have disappeared in the last few decades.

The Cathars believed in this and were burnt to death for their beliefs by the RC church.

The reason she left after Jesus died was to save the life of their child. The Merovingian's were supposedly of the bloodline of Jesus.

Leonardo DV was allegedly a Nautonier of the Priory of Sion. As were many famous men after the renassaince.

Anyway, that's the books theory. Forgive my spelling.

41 posted on 06/08/2002 2:55:47 PM PDT by hergus
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To: colette_g
I agree about that episode, it was one of the best things I ever saw on TV. A lot of critics blasted that scene saying it was too long, confusing etc. But I thought it was great. Do remeber the title of it?
42 posted on 06/08/2002 2:59:36 PM PDT by Davea
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To: colette_g
If they cancel "Dark Angel" I will write them a lettter telling them I will NEVER watch another one of their dramas. I wish "Millennium" had had those two extra seasons that "X-Files" ran too long by.
43 posted on 06/08/2002 2:59:47 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: foreshadowed at waco
I was also disappointed when they dropped the religious and bloodline aspect of the show. I watched open mouthed, I was shocked that these mems were being inserted into popular culture so blatantly.

Do you think someone told them to stop this theme? I mean the idea that MM was Jesus wife is anathema in today's christian culture.

44 posted on 06/08/2002 3:07:28 PM PDT by hergus
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To: El Sordo
My pleasure.
45 posted on 06/08/2002 5:17:13 PM PDT by mrustow
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To: colette_g
The Sci-Fi channel in the UK is re-running series 1 at the moment, they've only recently finished airing series 3 for the first time - none of the other UK networks would carry it. I can't wait for the re-runs of series 2, that was where the tru classic episodes were. That, or for Fox to make amends for cancelling it and release it on DVD! I'm not sure I'll ever forgive them for that - or not until some new Simpson's episodes arrive in the UK :-)

I am sure that it will be re-run in the States, and hope that by that time, I'll have a cable subscription and a VCR.

As for the second vs. the third season, my memory is unfortunately not as clear as I wish it were (especially re Season 2), but I can still remember to some degree a number of great shows from both of those seasons.

Season Two:

St. Sebastien's Hand

The show in which Frank finds a killing factory on a deserted (Midwestern?) farm, and determines that it is run by the Millennium Group.

The show in which either (that 'ol memory hole) the estranged Frank and Catherine are separately recruited by a millenarian, Nazi group, or Catherin is unwittingly recruited, and Frank does in to save her.

Another Nazi angle (perhaps the same story arc, in a second or third episode) in which the Nazis -- led by old Nazis -- are seeking some sort of Holy Grail artifact, the possession of which will give them control of the New Millennium.

The second season finale, with the anthrax-type plague unleashed. At the time, the show suggested that it was the end of the world. But at the beginning of the third season, we learned that it has only been released in the pacific Northwest. I'm now wondering if Carter had produced the season finale under a cloud, believing the show might now be renewed. Then, when the show was renewed, he had to re-write the outcome of the previous season.

46 posted on 06/08/2002 5:32:07 PM PDT by mrustow
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To: mrustow
I think the group was called Odessa and they were searching for a piece of the True Cross. It was pretty sweet when the Millennium Group wiped them out.
47 posted on 06/08/2002 8:26:08 PM PDT by Green Knight
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To: Green Knight
I think the group was called Odessa and they were searching for a piece of the True Cross.

Thanks.

It was pretty sweet when the Millennium Group wiped them out.

Yes it was -- I remember a big explosion.

48 posted on 06/09/2002 6:36:26 AM PDT by mrustow
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To: Green Knight
Do you recall a special, stand-alone episode from the third season, called "Borrowed Time"? In it, a death angel travels around, visiting survivor groups whose members had had near-death experiences in the recent past. The survivors all felt that they were on borrowed time, and were resigned to go when their "time came." The angel would then cause each survivor in turn to "drown" (their lungs would fill up with huge quantities of water, even though there was no source for the water) on dry land.

Frank's daughter, Jordan, had had such an experience, when she'd contracted meningitis two years earlier in Seattle. But that was before the anthrax-like plague hit, and her mother let Jordan get the only antidote Frank had.

At one point, Frank confronts the angel, "Her mother died, so that she could live." "Did she?" counters the skeptical death angel.

"This isn't fair!" Frank argues with the angel. "She's the only good thing that ever happened to me! My wife died, so that she could live! She chose." "Did she?" responds the doubting angel.

Later, with Jordan in respiratory arrest, her lungs gushing with water, Frank, who never prays, shouts to the heavens, Job-like, "I tried, oh God, I tried! I did everything you asked of me. No expectations. I'm begging, don't take her away from me!"

Hearing Frank, the angel drowns in Jordan's stead.

Minutes later, Jordan tells Frank, "I saw Mommy.... Mommy said she's fine. And she said to tell you, she chose. She made the right choice. I don't know what that means."

"It means she loved you very, very much," Frank reassures her.

49 posted on 06/09/2002 7:26:16 AM PDT by mrustow
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To: colette_g; El Sordo
Please see #49, and let me know what you think.
50 posted on 06/09/2002 7:27:38 AM PDT by mrustow
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To: mrustow
I think that was one of the first of series 3 that was shown in the UK - we had them slighly out of order, as the first that was to get shown featured a kind of terrorist airplane attack, and the Sci-Fi channel considered it inappropriate to show given current events at the time. A very,very good episode though.
51 posted on 06/09/2002 2:44:09 PM PDT by colette_g
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To: mrustow
Yeah, but unfortunately I barely remember that episode. Though now that you outlined it it's coming back to me. Really beautiful episode, from what I'm recalling. I really need to tape this show should it ever be put on FX, again. Not on DVD, huh? *sigh* To bad.

Amazing how this thread almost immediately went off topic. Not that I mind. ;-) Didn't realize there were so many Millennium fans in FReeper land.
52 posted on 06/09/2002 7:14:32 PM PDT by Green Knight
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To: Green Knight
Amazing how this thread almost immediately went off topic. Not that I mind. ;-) Didn't realize there were so many Millennium fans in FReeper land.

LOL. I thought people might respond to "Dr. Strangelove" AND Millennium. Whatever. In any event, I'm certainly pleased to have found other Millennium fans.

One of the secrets of Millennium's greatness, I think, was that its writer-producers wholly forsook the cartoonish psuedo-scientific explanations they used in The X-Files, opting instead for consistently millennarian religious explanations for everything. And their theology was much better, and much more dramatically captivating, than their "science."

53 posted on 06/10/2002 6:43:50 AM PDT by mrustow
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To: colette_g
the first that was to get shown featured a kind of terrorist airplane attack

Yet another episode I'd forgotten. The good part is, tha wen I see the series again, I'll be seeing some episodes for the first time, and will be enjoying others as if I were seeing them for the first time.

54 posted on 06/10/2002 6:46:10 AM PDT by mrustow
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To: colette_g
You've gotta watch the episode entitled something like "the Insanity of Lara Means", it's one of my favourites - but get the beers in first, and drink a few of them before watching, it really, really improves the episode ( was feature length when it was aired in UK ). It's unlike anything you've seen Chris Carter do before, and the beer is really important for the psychedelic sequence. Once you've seen it, my comments might make a bit more sense :-)

LOL! When you say "feature length," do you mean that it ran for 90 or 120 minutes? If so, it might have been two or three episodes edited into one long one.

55 posted on 06/10/2002 1:31:57 PM PDT by mrustow
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To: foreshadowed at waco
Is this the episode where Lara talks to Catherine about Jordan's visions and also ends up giving Catherine x-rays or medical files with DNA or something that would link the visionary girl genetically back to Jesus...the Gnostic Gospels...Mary Magdelan as Jesus' wife...one of the reasons that I stopped watching in the 3rd season was that they dropped the religious thread in mid-air---

Sorry, but I don't know. I'm not sure if I saw the episode in question. Elements from thre description sound familiar, but also similar to more than one episode I saw. is the theory that Jesus married Mary Magdalen a gnostic tradition?

BTW my favorite episode was a Christmas story about Frank's mother (who also saw angels) and Frank re-uniting with his Dad--and his Dad giving Frank a ceramic angel for Jordan whom he had never seen--and Jordan and Frank can see the souls of the dead (including Frank's dad) walking to Church on Christmas Eve?

I had forgotten all about that episode until you mentioned it. I remember just the parts you mentioned, especially the souls walking to church. That must have been from the second season -- otherwise, it would have been more clear in my memory. I wonder who played Frank's father -- possibly the late Darren McGavin (aka Kolchak, the Night Stalker, a Chris Carter favorite)?

56 posted on 06/10/2002 1:41:16 PM PDT by mrustow
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To: mrustow
Yes, I think it was two episodes that were run together. They would be my first buy if Millenium came out on DVD. Who's going to start a campaign ?
57 posted on 06/11/2002 9:47:28 AM PDT by colette_g
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To: colette_g
Yes, I think it was two episodes that were run together. They would be my first buy if Millenium came out on DVD. Who's going to start a campaign ?

I think you just did. Whom do we have to write? Fox? Chris Carter?

58 posted on 06/11/2002 12:00:59 PM PDT by mrustow
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To: All
See also:

Hunting for America's Leading Anthrax Hoaxer: Dr. Strangelove Strikes Again -- in Scotland!

59 posted on 06/19/2002 7:12:22 PM PDT by mrustow
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To: mrustow; colette_g; Green Knight; foreshadowed at waco; hergus; Davea; stands2reason
Sign the Amazon.com petition to have Millennium put out on DVD!

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005JLJT/qid%3D1024761175/sr%3D1-12/ref%3Dsr%5F1%5F12/104-4073449-0358303
60 posted on 09/15/2002 11:48:31 AM PDT by El Sordo
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