The Last Words of Edmund Ruffin, Southern Patriot

1865 | Edmund Ruffin

[TexConfederate1861]

"I here declare my unmitigated hatred to Yankee rule -- to all political, social and business connection with the Yankees and to the Yankee race. Would that I could impress these sentiments, in their full force, on every living Southerner and bequeath them to every one yet to be born! May such sentiments be held universally in the outraged and downtrodden South, though in silence and stillness, until the now far-distant day shall arrive for just retribution for Yankee usurpation, oppression and atrocious outrages, and for deliverance and vengeance for the now ruined, subjugated and enslaved Southern States!

..And now with my latest writing and utterance, and with what will be near my latest breath, I here repeat and would willingly proclaim my unmitigated hatred to Yankee rule--to all political, social and business connections with Yankees, and the perfidious, malignant and vile Yankee race."

--Edmund Ruffin , 1865

[newwahoo]

"But Mayor Wood changed his position the moment Sumter was fired on. The 40th New York was called the 'Mozart Regiment' not after the composer but because Fernando Wood, as head of the Mozart Faction of the Democratic Party in New York City, was the sponsor of the regiment."

Interesting, I didn't know that. I guess it makes sense, especially given the way the NYPD came down on the draft rioters. Kinda hard to stay pro-rebel when your constituents' sons are getting killed.

[TexConfederate1861]

Why? because I believe that it has merit as a motion picture?

AGAIN....have you seen it?

If you haven't, you are not in a position to judge!

[Lee'sGhost]

What do "traders" have to do with anything? Fur traders? Were they rebelling too?

[TexConfederate1861]

His name is Nathan Bedford Forrest, and it is not correct to compare the Klan of today to the one of Reconstruction days.....they were different...

[Lee'sGhost]

"AGAIN....have you seen it?"

Aw man, if he did that he MIGHT have to reconsider his biases and -- "gasp" -- change his mind. Better to proceed in ignorance than run the risk of admitting you might be wrong.

[Ditto]

and it is not correct to compare the Klan of today to the one of Reconstruction days.....they were different...

Ya.... today, most members are fat drunk losers or FBI informers. ;~)) Back then, the Klan shot up anyone who got in their way. They were very bad boys.

[TexConfederate1861]

In the last days of the Klan (the original) they did turn that way, which is why General Forrest disbanded them. However, at the beginning, they DID have a useful purpose.

They terrorized carpetbaggers who were ruining the South, and Blacks that were abusing their freedom, (raping, getting drunk and committing mayhem, etc.) bringing justice, where there was none..(albeit vigilante justice)

I strongly urge you to see "Birth of a Nation". I think you
will change your mind about a lot of things....

[Phantom Lord]

They terrorized carpetbaggers who were ruining the South, and Blacks that were abusing their freedom, (raping, getting drunk and committing mayhem, etc.)

Good thing they did, because whites would never dream of engaging in such things.

[wtc911]

Illbay, you are right. TC1861....does the irony of the reference to the defeated south as "enslaved" escape you entirely?

[wtc911]

TC1861, you praise the merits of Birth of a Nation but, except for the way that it conforms to what your sense of history should be you don't have anything to say. No film is a great film just because of the story it tells. What is it, besides the propaganda, that makes you think it is a great film...and please, don't cheat yourself by quoting some quickly researched review.

[Colt .45]

Hey brother, trying to teach a Yankee about the righteousness of the Secession, and the egrigiousness of Lincoln's War of Aggression is like trying to teach a pig to sing. Its a waste of your breath and annoys the pig.

We know the why of it, and the Yankee PC whore graduates of 'Carpe Dementia' will always want to believe they were right. But they are the ones who sold out the Constitution and their freedoms for a pack of lies and B.S.

Pay no attention to them, they are the holdovers of the Communist ideology.

[wtc911]

Is this guy some distant ancestor of the great David Ruffin of Detroit? A late night visit to keep himself warm maybe?

[TexConfederate1861]

The quote was for the gentleman that seemed to think that my opinion was the only one....The movie has great merit for many reasons:

1. The battle scenes, the quality of which were way ahead of the times.

2. Lillian Gish, who was a great actress, etc.

3. The fact that the movie was made only 50 years after the end of the war, it is VERY accurate about the causes, and of the Southern position, as well as the Northern position.

The movie also had former Union and Confederate soldiers as actors....what better authenticity could you ask for?

W.D. Griffith was a pioneer in the art of film....

[TexConfederate1861]

Friend:

You have a point...I can tell you...I am proud that I am an American. I served this country in the U.S. Navy, My Grandfather was a thrice-decorated WWII Veteran, I am a member of the American Legion.

The problem is that some people on this forum have got the erroneous idea, that because I condemn the way the Feds treated the South, or because I believe that the "South was Right", that this makes me some sort of Anti-American "Neo" person.....and that is NOT TRUE.

However, I still am proud of my heritage as a Southron, proud that three of my ancestors fought with Marse Robert, and I will NOT be made to sit on the stools of "everlasting repentance" because the Confederacy lost a war to overwhelming odds!

[TexConfederate1861]

Sigh......

Unfortunately, I am beginning to see that exact point.....

as the Good Book says..."Cast not your pearls before swine"

Geez...

[Protect the Bill of Rights]

Sadly, Edmund Ruffin is narrowly defined in terms of the War and Slavery.
From:   http://www.saveourriver.org/sys-tmpl/historicresourcesatriskpage3/
 

The decline of the town [Newcastle] gave way to the rise of agriculture in the area. In  1843 my great-great-great grandfather, Edmund Ruffin, acquired Marlbourne, part of which is within the boundaries of present-day Newcastle Farm. The man who became, according to historian Avery Craven, "the father of soil chemistry in America" (see: Edmund Ruffin, Southerner) made his home adjacent to what had been the town. At Marlbourne, Ruffin carried on many of his famous experiments, which were the first in North America to articulate practices of crop rotation and fertilizer use in order to prevent depleted soil from becoming too acidic to support healthy plant growth. The silt of the Pamunkey River, which had precluded growth of the town, provided Ruffin with a rich agricultural resource to be spread upon his fields. His grave lies less than two miles from what had been the colonial town.

The above was written by Henry Ruffin Broaddus.He is involved in a legal fight over land seized by the county to build a Waste Treatment Plant on part of Marlbourne.  His fight is but one more notch on the bedpost for those who are bound and determined to obliterate remnants of the early history of that area.  Cemeteries have been plowed under by developers with no clear title to the land in the name of progress.  The sites of Civil War battles were always easy to find because the earthworks had not yet been plowed under.  Patrick Henry grew up in the area.  Powhatan is buried next to the river just below the proposed Waste Treatment Plant.  George Washington married Martha not very far down the road.

However, since most of America can only see the slavery issue, we are losing the history of an area that nutured our forefather's love of freedom.  It is a very precious freedom that we are in danger of losing.

[Jim Noble]

The South wasn't doing so badly under the laws of man.

The choice of the laws of War was exceeedingly ill-advised, the result inevitable.

After you lose the war, you can't call "do-over" with the laws of Peace. As the Vietnamese say,

"Sin loy, minoy".

[rebelsoldier]

Spoken like a true commie agitprop comrade. Southerners honor the bravery, gallantry, and dedication of their ancestor's sacrifices in quiet enjoyment; while pissy, wussy, snot-nosed Yankee interlopers and buttinskys (who possess no such pride or character) exist to assault that which they cannot control like the cowardly thug trash they emulate. Again, without southerners in the ranks of the US military, the US military would have folded. Ruffin was essentially right, Yankees are a vile, contempible people. Why they can't stay put in Yankeeland, is still a mystery and a drawback.