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The Last Words of Edmund Ruffin, Southern Patriot
1865 | Edmund Ruffin

Posted on 06/05/2002 8:53:55 AM PDT by TexConfederate1861

"I here declare my unmitigated hatred to Yankee rule -- to all political, social and business connection with the Yankees and to the Yankee race. Would that I could impress these sentiments, in their full force, on every living Southerner and bequeath them to every one yet to be born! May such sentiments be held universally in the outraged and downtrodden South, though in silence and stillness, until the now far-distant day shall arrive for just retribution for Yankee usurpation, oppression and atrocious outrages, and for deliverance and vengeance for the now ruined, subjugated and enslaved Southern States!

..And now with my latest writing and utterance, and with what will be near my latest breath, I here repeat and would willingly proclaim my unmitigated hatred to Yankee rule--to all political, social and business connections with Yankees, and the perfidious, malignant and vile Yankee race."

--Edmund Ruffin , 1865


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: dixielist; ruffin; yankee
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To: billbears
And if you had seen on other threads, I have said Jimmy Carter was too good of a man to be POTUS. He is probably the only true Christian President, besides Reagan, this nation has had in half a decade...

True Christian my @ss? Jimmy Carter is a sanctimonious holier-than-thou twit with mean streak wider than Sherman's march. Are all southerners as gullible as you to fall for his TV preacher PR crap?

141 posted on 06/05/2002 11:05:10 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: Lee'sGhost
I know virtually nothing about the Klan, but werent they originally a "yankee" organization based out of Ohio? I could be wrong though.
142 posted on 06/05/2002 11:05:15 AM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: TexConfederate1861
Also...."Birth of a Nation" is considered a classic motion picture, and one of the finest ever made.....

It was also a massive piece of propaganda that turned terrorists thugs who murdered innocents men, women and children into heroes. If you care to consider it a 'classic' be my guest.

143 posted on 06/05/2002 11:08:18 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: billbears
And Elizabeth Dole was born and raised here. I wouldnt begin to stretch credibility by suggesting that she knows NC and truly has its best interests in mind. Would you?

Though I will not compare her to Hillary clinton as many have tried to do.

144 posted on 06/05/2002 11:08:47 AM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: Ditto
"I didn't say from the South. I said from the Confederacy."

Now wait a dog gone minute. You can't have it both ways. You said, "Bush, Wilson, LBJ, and Bill Clinton are the three presidents we have had from the Confederacy." Well, I assumed you were using "South" and "Confederacy" interchangeably bec NONE of those folks you mentioned were from the "Confederacy." (Not only that, that's four presidents.)

"If Washington, Jackson, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe and the other patriots of the founding had still been around, there would have never been a confederacy."

Hmmmmm? Only if you mean that they would have had the negotiating and diplomatic skills to resolve the problem and prevent secession. Some of those folks wrote strongly about state sovereignty and Jefferson advocated the occasional revolution to clean house so to speak. This statement was way off historical base.

145 posted on 06/05/2002 11:12:21 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost
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To: billbears
wouldn't it be in our best interests to elect someone that we know holds most of our views and our interests in mind instead of some carpetbagger

Darn Right it's in our best interests! That's why our elected officials are based on geography (ie. states, cities, counties). Can you imagine if all the politicians were concentrated in one area? (oh yeah, that's corrupt city DC)

146 posted on 06/05/2002 11:12:42 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: billbears
Much like X42, born in the South but a northern leaning person.

Please leave your trash on your side of the Mason-Dixon line.

147 posted on 06/05/2002 11:14:05 AM PDT by Joe Driscoll
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To: Phantom Lord
LOL!! Now that sounds like something I would do. Well, so much for detant.
148 posted on 06/05/2002 11:15:30 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost
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To: newwahoo
Mayor Fernando Wood advocated setting up a "free city".

But Mayor Wood changed his position the moment Sumter was fired on. The 40th New York was called the 'Mozart Regiment' not after the composer but because Fernando Wood, as head of the Mozart Faction of the Democratic Party in New York City, was the sponsor of the regiment.

149 posted on 06/05/2002 11:21:52 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Phantom Lord
I know virtually nothing about the Klan, but werent they originally a "yankee" organization based out of Ohio? I could be wrong though.

You would be wrong. The birthplace of the Klan was Pulaski, Tennessee.

150 posted on 06/05/2002 11:23:52 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Ditto
Have you ever SEEN it? Well, I have, and I own a copy on DVD, and no matter what your opinion, Hollywood agrees with me as well....

From A&E:

Birth Of A Nation

Lillian Gish, Mae Marsh, Henry B. Walthall, Wallace Reid, Elmo Lincoln, Erich von Stroheim, Directed by D. W Grifflth one of the most famous silent 'classics' ever made is D.W. Griffith's mammoth drama of one of America's most dramatic moments in history ?? the Civil War. This film was based upon southerner Thomas Mon's book "The Clansman," and told the romanticized story of the struggle of the defeated south against the oppression of the carpetbaggers and scallywags during the recontructionist period. On the AFI’s top 100 Films Of All Times List. 125 Min, B/W, Silent with a music track, 1915

151 posted on 06/05/2002 11:24:40 AM PDT by TexConfederate1861
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To: TexConfederate1861
It all depends on how you define Yankee. I'd wager that Ruffin viewed Californians as Yankees, as they fielded troops who fought against him. Now you as a Texan, should especially view CA as Yankees, as almost all the skirmishes against CA troops were by Texas troops.

Eastern Theater

2nd Massachusetts Cavalry Volunteers

Company A (California 100)

Companies E, F, L, M

71st Pennsylvania Volunteers

The California Brigade

Western Theater

First Battalion Native California Cavalry

Companies A-D

First California Cavalry Volunteers

Companies A-M

Second California Cavalry Volunteers

Companies A-M

First California Infantry Volunteers

Companies A-K

Second California Infantry Volunteers

Companies A-K

Third California Infantry Volunteers

Companies A-K

Fourth California Infantry Volunteers

Companies A-K

Fifth California Infantry Volunteers

Companies A-K

Sixth California Infantry Volunteers

Companies A-K

Seventh California Infantry Volunteers

Companies A-K

Eighth California Infantry Volunteers

Companies A-K

First Battalion California Mountaineers (Infantry)

Companies A-F

First Regiment Washington Territory Infantry Volunteers

Companies A-F, G-I

152 posted on 06/05/2002 11:24:47 AM PDT by Melas
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To: Lee'sGhost
Only if you mean that they would have had the negotiating and diplomatic skills to resolve the problem and prevent secession.

Washington crushed the Whiskey Rebellion without negotiating a damn thing, and Andy Jackson wasn't much for diplomacy with traders. Read his "Letter to the People of South Carolina" and look at the "Force Bill" he pushed through Congress if you doubt that.

153 posted on 06/05/2002 11:24:59 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: Non-Sequitur
Something is sticking in my head about the Klan and Ohio. Could it be they currently have the largest membership? Something along those lines I think.

And now that you mentioned Tenn. I remember now. Doesnt Tenn have a monument to the founder of the Klan and have his birthday as a holidy? Cant remember his name right now.

154 posted on 06/05/2002 11:26:16 AM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: TexConfederate1861
Well, I have, and I own a copy on DVD...

Why am I not surprised?

155 posted on 06/05/2002 11:26:32 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: Campion
Don't EVEN bring Sam Houston into this....I am a Texan FIRST....and he probably could have wupped him....just like he did to Congressman Stanberry, (from OHIO, I think?)
156 posted on 06/05/2002 11:30:47 AM PDT by TexConfederate1861
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To: Ditto
Why are you totally ignoring the point about YOU using "South" and "Confederacy" interchangeably and then jumping on me for following your lead?

And I suspect you know full well that the Whiskey Rebellion was an uprising of disgruntled folks from a given AREA -- NOT a state acting with the authority of its elected officals and the approval of its citizens. But even that event carried most of the trappings of something Jefferson would have approved of.

157 posted on 06/05/2002 11:32:22 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost
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To: Phantom Lord
Indiana, Ohio, and Pennsylvania all have had large Klan memberships over the years. For all I know they still do. I'm not aware of any site that gives Klan membership statistics so I don't see how anyone can point to a single state and say that they have the largest current membership.
158 posted on 06/05/2002 11:32:29 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Ditto
I have to agree with my colleague on that...

Jimmy Carter, though a terrible President, was the most MORAL and Christian man this nation has had this past century as a President..

Which is WHY he WAS a LOUSY President.....!

159 posted on 06/05/2002 11:33:36 AM PDT by TexConfederate1861
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To: Illbay
"But I continue to challenge ALL those who insist that I have to support a rebellion of slave-owners against the legitimate government of the United States"

You still have slaves in the south?

160 posted on 06/05/2002 11:33:41 AM PDT by philetus
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