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The Last Words of Edmund Ruffin, Southern Patriot
1865 | Edmund Ruffin

Posted on 06/05/2002 8:53:55 AM PDT by TexConfederate1861

"I here declare my unmitigated hatred to Yankee rule -- to all political, social and business connection with the Yankees and to the Yankee race. Would that I could impress these sentiments, in their full force, on every living Southerner and bequeath them to every one yet to be born! May such sentiments be held universally in the outraged and downtrodden South, though in silence and stillness, until the now far-distant day shall arrive for just retribution for Yankee usurpation, oppression and atrocious outrages, and for deliverance and vengeance for the now ruined, subjugated and enslaved Southern States!

..And now with my latest writing and utterance, and with what will be near my latest breath, I here repeat and would willingly proclaim my unmitigated hatred to Yankee rule--to all political, social and business connections with Yankees, and the perfidious, malignant and vile Yankee race."

--Edmund Ruffin , 1865


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: dixielist; ruffin; yankee
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To: billbears
No my point is that he shouldn't have been allowed to run for office outside of the state he was born in. With his views, I don't think he would have got very far in a run for governor of Georgia.

A quick check of the map shows that Georgia was one of his electoral strongholds, as was Virginia.

Your argument doesn't hold up.

121 posted on 06/05/2002 10:46:37 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Phantom Lord
..I will put my BBQ up against your BBQ anytime and anywhere...

I submit my name to be a judge in this contest.

122 posted on 06/05/2002 10:47:30 AM PDT by mafree
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To: TexConfederate1861
Now I may be wrong here, but I would swear that Wilson was from NEW JERSEY......

You are wrong. Wilson was a Virginian, actually met Jeff Davis when he was young, loved the Confederacy, helped write Birth of a Nation, a film which glorified the Klan, was behind the Red Scare of 1919, took the US into an unnecessary foreign war and grew the Federal breaucracy far beyond anything that had ever existed even during the Civil War.

Before Bush, Wilson, LBJ, and Bill Clinton are the three presidents we have had from the Confederacy ---- aren't you proud?

123 posted on 06/05/2002 10:47:54 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: shuckmaster
Links to articles from the Weekly World News? I see you've raised the level of quality of your sources, schuckmeister.
124 posted on 06/05/2002 10:49:21 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: mafree
"I submit my name to be a judge in this contest."

Now you're talkin'. I'll be one too -- and I'll even spot the Texas stuff five points.

125 posted on 06/05/2002 10:49:44 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost
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To: billbears
Where does the constitution forbid one from running for office in a state they were not born?

That is just stupid to suggest that such a law or constitutional amendment should be passed, let along considered. In America we have the freedom of movement and the freedom to live where we choose. And the freedom to endeavor in the careers of our choosing.

126 posted on 06/05/2002 10:51:14 AM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: Ditto
Opps. I forgot Carter another son of the Confederacy. How could I skip that anti-American pin head?
127 posted on 06/05/2002 10:51:22 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: Poohbah
For President yes. If he would have run for governor in GA, no it wouldn't have worked. But wouldn't you, if you were wanting to gain votes in a particular area of the country build up the fact that you were a native of that region? I imagine many of the folks that did vote for him down here, did so in the hopes of putting a Southerner into the seat once held by the northern tyrant not fully knowing his political views
128 posted on 06/05/2002 10:52:07 AM PDT by billbears
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To: Lee'sGhost
Gibson Explorer is one of my guitars. And a Marshall stack is a set of very large and powerful amps.
129 posted on 06/05/2002 10:52:30 AM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: billbears
OK, so your argument is that Georgians are able to discern BS in local elections, but are too stupid to do so in Federal elections.

This doesn't pass the common sense test.

130 posted on 06/05/2002 10:55:11 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Phantom Lord
Not the US Constitution, the state constitutions. Look, I like some yankees that have moved down here, you included. However if I want someone to represent the views that I and most other native North Carolinians hold, wouldn't it be in our best interests to elect someone that we know holds most of our views and our interests in mind instead of some carpetbagger that doesn't recognize what most of us care about?
131 posted on 06/05/2002 10:55:12 AM PDT by billbears
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To: Ditto
Sigh . . .for what it's worth, there were OTHERS from the South, like George Washington, Andrew Jackson, Thomas Jefferson -- to name a few.

Bigger sigh. . .and as much as I loath the Klan, their origin was necessitated by the absense of law, order and protection that was NOT provided to the citizens of the South during "Reconstruction." They were basically trying to protect themselves and their families. Those people had NOTHING in common with the KKK today, whether you're talking about the chapters in the South or the North.

132 posted on 06/05/2002 10:55:12 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost
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To: billbears
With his views, I don't think he would have got very far in a run for governor of Georgia.

Who dat? Jimmy Carter?

133 posted on 06/05/2002 10:55:13 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: billbears
"Actually the city of New York was considering leaving the union with the Southern states, as suggested by the mayor at the time"

Bizarre but true. Mayor Fernando Wood advocated setting up a "free city". There was quite a bit of antiwar sentiment, much of it stemming from a fear of freed slaves competing for jobs up north.

While we're on NYC, I also recently found out that the secretary of war designated the NYPD as provost marshalls in 1862. Detectives spent the rest of the war hunting saboteurs and spies all across the country. If anyone has any good links about this I'd appreciate it if they'd post them.

134 posted on 06/05/2002 10:56:21 AM PDT by newwahoo
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To: billbears
Speaking of elections, billbears, did you know that Jefferson Davis never won a single election where he ran against another candidate? His one term in congress, two partial terms in the senate, and presidency of the confederacy were all unopposed. And I understand that each election went down to the wire before he narrowly won.
135 posted on 06/05/2002 10:56:42 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Ditto
And if you had seen on other threads, I have said Jimmy Carter was too good of a man to be POTUS. He is probably the only true Christian President, besides Reagan, this nation has had in half a decade

What he's done in the years since for the most part has been generally good, however I will say in the past 8 or so years towing the party line I feel he has lost his way

136 posted on 06/05/2002 10:58:30 AM PDT by billbears
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To: Lee'sGhost
Sigh . . .for what it's worth, there were OTHERS from the South, like George Washington, Andrew Jackson, Thomas Jefferson -- to name a few.

Sigh... I didn't say from the South. I said from the Confederacy. If Washington, Jackson, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe and the other patriots of the founding had still been around, there would have never been a confederacy. Those patriots would have stomped hateful mad men like Ruffin into the dust for even suggesting it.

137 posted on 06/05/2002 10:58:53 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: TexConfederate1861
"That is EXACTLY what I have been trying to tell them.... I have been knockin...but NOBODYS HOME!"

Hang in there. Don't judge 'em all by just the ones who have responded with less than kind words.

138 posted on 06/05/2002 10:59:11 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost
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To: Ditto
Actually, since the war was OVER when those men were in office, that hardly makes them Confederate..... Also...."Birth of a Nation" is considered a classic motion picture, and one of the finest ever made.....
139 posted on 06/05/2002 11:00:47 AM PDT by TexConfederate1861
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To: billbears
You are free to vote against anyone for any reason. Would you rather have a Rep, Senator (state or federal levels), or Governor born outside NC who is a strong conservative, or would you rather have NC born and raised Mel Watt, David Price, Jim Black, Dan Blue, Mike Easley, Jim Hunt, John Edwards, etc...?

Born and raised does not equal having the best interests in mind.

140 posted on 06/05/2002 11:04:14 AM PDT by Phantom Lord
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