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U-TURN: BUSH ADMIN OUTLINES 'GLOBAL WARMING' EFFECTS ON AMERICA; ACKNOWLEDGES DAMAGE
Drudge Report ^ | 06/02/2002 | By Drudge

Posted on 06/02/2002 6:07:27 PM PDT by Lazamataz

DAMAGE

In a stunning U-turn for the Bush administration, the United States has sent a climate report to the United Nations detailing "specific and far-reaching effects" that it says "global warming will inflict" on the American environment.

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Also for the first time -- the White House places "most of the blame for recent global warming on human actions -- mainly the burning of fossil fuels that send heat-trapping greenhouse gases into the atmosphere," the NEW YORK TIMES is planning to report on Monday Page Ones, according to publishing sources.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: enviralists; globalwarminghoax; kyotolist; unlist
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To: Admin Moderator
NO! We'll only get Vertigo 2, followed by Vertigo: The Sequel, and Vertigo: I Don't Know Who I Was Last Summer.
181 posted on 06/02/2002 7:27:27 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: dax zenos
Your way of life will come to a hard stop

If Bush starts to believe global warming is a problem for the human race to address, it doesn't mean he is going to go for an approach that will obliterate our way of life. Get a grip here, guys.

183 posted on 06/02/2002 7:28:51 PM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: 1rudeboy
NO! We'll only get Vertigo 2, followed by Vertigo: The Sequel, and Vertigo: I Don't Know Who I Was Last Summer.

BWAHAHA!

184 posted on 06/02/2002 7:29:02 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: 1rudeboy
I don't care who's side there on, if they're against a one world government ruled by the UN and maybe Klink as the Sec General, which you seem to be in favor of.
186 posted on 06/02/2002 7:31:26 PM PDT by It'salmosttolate
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To: Lazamataz
This link at Drudge -------

U-TURN: BUSH ADMIN OUTLINES 'GLOBAL WARMING' EFFECTS ON AMERICA; ACKNOWLEDGES DAMAGE

Takes you to this story on Drudge ------- http://www.drudgereport.com/flash91.htm

Did it when you posted this article?

187 posted on 06/02/2002 7:32:21 PM PDT by rdavis84
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To: Lazamataz
Could this be Bush's version of "triangulation"? Taking an issue off the plate for the Dems? Just like Clinton, Bush can say anything, but if he does nothing stupid policy wise, he can claim the high ground by what said, and still not betray his base if he actually does nothing. Classic Clinton. If not, then Bush is heading for a one term presidency.
188 posted on 06/02/2002 7:33:22 PM PDT by joonbug
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To: ikka
Global warming is a lie and a fraud and you are either ignorant or evil for promulgating this - which are you?
He's just ignernt!

I had no less than THREE college professors state in class that global warming is a farce! These were professors of Geology and Geography (For those of you who don't know geography has to do with studying the weather amongst other things) The temperature on the Earth has NEVER been a constant it goes through up swings and downswings that can last hundreds and even thousands of years or more, then all of the sudden they swing the other way (Hey that kind of reminds me of old Dub'ya!)All you have to do is go and look at the recorded data and you can see this for yourselves. Many scientists have come out and stated that global warming is junk science. Unfortunately some posters on the this thread seem to be ignorant of these scientific facts and are praying that global warming is real so that they can have something in their pathetic little lives to worry about. They're kind of like those people with the Nike shoes and the Cool-aid that were praying that the mother ship was real! LOL!
189 posted on 06/02/2002 7:34:56 PM PDT by RebelDawg
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To: Lazamataz
I'm getting awfully sick of swallowing all this liberalism and calling it 'conservatism'.

How dare you disagree or criticize Saint George. >sarcasm<

190 posted on 06/02/2002 7:35:55 PM PDT by dougherty
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To: Material Defender - Vertigo 1
Always have fun at someone else's expense (my motto).
191 posted on 06/02/2002 7:37:59 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: joonbug
If this story is bona fide, it has nothing to do with politics. It has to do with a genuine concern based on some factual revelation to the powers that be. If it was all about politics, this thing would never have seen the light of day. It does nothing helpful to Bush's political coalition, unless of course the report is compelling. But it would be surprising if this report has stuff in it that has not been rather thoroughly vetted before. Which of course raises issues about the U turn. That is the real mystery here. Do we have a U turn here based on nothing, or prior administration ignorance, or do we have a U turn based on politics, or do we have a U turn based on real new information, or is there no U turn at all, and the story is ersatz?
192 posted on 06/02/2002 7:38:29 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Sabertooth
Mesoscale Global Warming has been occurring for natural causes yet to be determined since the end of the last Ice Age.
The ramification to us, apparently, is the flourishing of human civilization.

LOL! However, there was possibly a flourishing around 12,000 years ago which was snuffed out, possibly because of a significant rise in the ocean level which obliterated much of the older civilizations.

It is a fun puzzle.

I think the Siberians and the Canadians are rooting for Global Warming.

193 posted on 06/02/2002 7:38:35 PM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: patriciaruth
However, even if human activity is having little or no effect on global warming, but science shows nature is leading us into a hotter global climate that will make human survival harder, should we ignore it or not try to ameliorate its effects?

Why would it make human survival harder? Like they say about alleged global warming, it will be warmer someplaces, and cooler in others. By the same token, it will make survival harder in some areas, easier in others. But the time frame of change is so long, that generations will have time to adapt.

As far as countering the trends, we don't yet know enough about the causes, how to extrapolate to the future, or even the technology to change the conditions. There is also the very real danger that we will amplify an undesirable oscillation. Have you ever driven one of those bumper-cars at the carnival where it tended to go left, so you turned hard right, only to have it veer too rapidly to the right, so you turned even harder to the left.

194 posted on 06/02/2002 7:41:35 PM PDT by omni-scientist
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To: MAKnight
Actually, we probably have to do what the left did: Raise our children with our values, and encourage them in careers in Journalism. Explain to them that they may have to keep their values quiet the first few years, but they'll be able to "change the world"!
195 posted on 06/02/2002 7:42:13 PM PDT by Kay Ludlow
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To: Scott from the Left Coast;Sultan88;Mudboy Slim
This business of taking Democrats issues away from them by agreeing with them and adopting their policies does get a little tiring.

I myself would use a different word than "tiring".
Can anyone please tell me how a President with historically high approval ratings feels compelled to 'take the democrat's issues away from them'? As if the GOP gains majorities in both House & Senate, W will suddenly make an abrupt, sharp turn to the 'right'.

Two things I now sincerely believe:
1. W will raise taxes.
2. If he gets to nominate any justices to the Supreme Court, they will not be "conservatives" as he said they would.

196 posted on 06/02/2002 7:42:35 PM PDT by jla
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While I think the Nick Danger theory may be the explanation, if this story holds true will we now have the derisive title for GW of "Global Warming" Bush?
197 posted on 06/02/2002 7:43:24 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Kay Ludlow
A Fifth Column in the Fourth Estate? Great idea!
198 posted on 06/02/2002 7:43:47 PM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: Lazamataz

Climate Changing, U.S. Says in Report

By ANDREW C. REVKIN

In a stark shift for the Bush administration, the United States has sent a climate report to the United Nations detailing specific and far-reaching effects that it says global warming will inflict on the American environment.

In the report, the administration for the first time mostly blames human actions for recent global warming. It says the main culprit is the burning of fossil fuels that send heat-trapping greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.

But while the report says the United States will be substantially changed in the next few decades — "very likely" seeing the disruption of snow-fed water supplies, more stifling heat waves and the permanent disappearance of Rocky Mountain meadows and coastal marshes, for example — it does not propose any major shift in the administration's policy on greenhouse gases.

It recommends adapting to inevitable changes. It does not recommend making rapid reductions in greenhouse gases to limit warming, the approach favored by many environmental groups and countries that have accepted the Kyoto Protocol, a climate treaty written in the Clinton administration that was rejected by Mr. Bush.

The new document, "U.S. Climate Action Report 2002," strongly concludes that no matter what is done to cut emissions in the future, nothing can be done about the environmental consequences of several decades' worth of carbon dioxide and other heat-trapping gases already in the atmosphere.

Its emphasis on adapting to the inevitable fits in neatly with the climate plan Mr. Bush announced in February. He called for voluntary measures that would allow gas emissions to continue to rise, with the goal of slowing the rate of growth.

Yet the new report's predictions present a sharp contrast to previous statements on climate change by the administration, which has always spoken in generalities and emphasized the need for much more research to resolve scientific questions.

The report, in fact, puts a substantial distance between the administration and companies that produce or, like automakers, depend on fossil fuels. Many companies and trade groups have continued to run publicity and lobbying campaigns questioning the validity of the science pointing to damaging results of global warming.

The distancing could be an effort to rebuild Mr. Bush's environmental credentials after a bruising stretch of defeats on stances that favor energy production over conservation, notably the failure to win a Senate vote opening the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to exploratory oil drilling.

But the report has alienated environmentalists, too. Late last week, after it was posted on the Web site of the Environmental Protection Agency, private environmental groups pounced on it, saying it pointed to a jarring disconnect between the administration's findings on the climate problem and its proposed solutions.

"The Bush administration now admits that global warming will change America's most unique wild places and wildlife forever," said Mark Van Putten, the president of the National Wildlife Federation, a private environmental group. "How can it acknowledge global warming is a disaster in the making and then refuse to help solve the problem, especially when solutions are so clear?"

Scott McClellan, a White House spokesman, said, "It is important to move forward on the president's strategies for addressing the challenge of climate change, and that's what we're continuing to do."

Many companies and trade groups had sought last year to tone down parts of the report, the third prepared by the United States under the requirements of a 1992 climate treaty but the first under President Bush.

For the most part, the document does not reflect industry's wishes, which were conveyed in letters during a period of public comment on a draft last year.

The report emphasizes that global warming carries potential benefits for the nation, including increased agricultural and forest growth from longer growing seasons, and from more rainfall and carbon dioxide for photosynthesis.

But it says environmental havoc is coming as well. "Some of the goods and services lost through the disappearance or fragmentation of natural ecosystems are likely to be costly or impossible to replace," the report says.

The report also warns of the substantial disruption of snow-fed water supplies, the loss of coastal and mountain ecosystems and more frequent heat waves. "A few ecosystems, such as alpine meadows in the Rocky Mountains and some barrier islands, are likely to disappear entirely in some areas," it says. "Other ecosystems, such as Southeastern forests, are likely to experience major species shifts or break up into a mosaic of grasslands, woodlands and forests."

Despite arguments by oil industry groups that the evidence is not yet clear, the report unambiguously states that humans are the likely cause of most of the recent warming. Phrases were adopted wholesale from a National Academy of Sciences climate study, which was requested last spring by the White House and concluded that the warming was a serious problem.

A government official familiar with the new report said that it had been under review at the White House from January until mid-April, but that few substantive changes were made.

Without a news release or announcement, the new report was shipped last week to the United Nations offices that administer the treaty and posted on the Web (www.epa .gov/globalwarming/publications /car/).

A senior administration official involved in climate policy played down the significance of the report, explaining that policies on emissions or international treaties would not change as a result.

Global warming has become a significant, if second-tier, political issue recently, particularly since James M. Jeffords, the Vermont independent, became chairman of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee last year. Mr. Jeffords has criticized the president's policy.

The new report is the latest in a series on greenhouse gases, climate research, energy policies and related matters that are required of signatories to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, which was signed by Mr. Bush's father and ratified by the Senate.

The convention lacks binding obligations to reduce gas emissions like those in the Kyoto Protocol.

Mr. Bush and administration officials had previously been careful to avoid specifics and couch their views on coming climate shifts with substantial caveats. The president and his aides often described climate change as a "serious issue," but rarely as a serious problem.

The report contains some caveats of its own, but states that the warming trend has been under way for several decades and is likely to continue.

"Because of the momentum in the climate system and natural climate variability, adapting to a changing climate is inevitable," the report says. "The question is whether we adapt poorly or well."

Several industry groups said the qualifications in parts of the report were welcome, but added that the overall message was still more dire than the facts justified and would confuse policy makers.

Dr. Russell O. Jones, a senior economist for the American Petroleum Institute who wrote a letter to the Environmental Protection Agency a year ago seeking to purge projections of specific environmental impacts from the report, said it was "frustrating" to see that they remained.

"Adding the caveats is useful, but the results are still as meaningless," Dr. Jones said.

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But while the report says the United States will be substantially changed in the next few decades — "very likely" seeing the disruption of snow-fed water supplies, more stifling heat waves and the permanent disappearance of Rocky Mountain meadows and coastal marshes, for example — it does not propose any major shift in the administration's policy on greenhouse gases.

It recommends adapting to inevitable changes. It does not recommend making rapid reductions in greenhouse gases to limit warming, the approach favored by many environmental groups and countries that have accepted the Kyoto Protocol, a climate treaty written in the Clinton administration that was rejected by Mr. Bush.

199 posted on 06/02/2002 7:44:28 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Lazamataz
The Bottom Feeders are out in force, something does not seem right with this report from Drudge.
200 posted on 06/02/2002 7:45:05 PM PDT by Mike Darancette
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