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Oregon County Set For Timber Showdown
AP: via The Guardian (United Kingdom) ^ | 5/23/2002 | AP

Posted on 05/25/2002 12:25:11 PM PDT by Jack Black

Ore. County Set For Timber Showdown

Thursday May 23, 2002 4:50 AM

PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) - Voters in an eastern Oregon county overwhelmingly approved a measure to allow residents to cut trees on federal land without permission, setting up a potential showdown with forest officials.

The measure in Grant County passed 1,512 to 745 Tuesday despite cautions that local laws cannot override federal regulations.

Herb Brusman, who helped write the measure, said Wednesday it would reduce the threat of wildfire by letting residents thin trees, remove trees in danger of falling onto roads and provide income to loggers and mills.

He said his group would meet with county officials.

``If they go along with us, all well and good, and the same goes for the Forest Service,'' he said. ``Whatever happens, we are still going to do it.''

The measure recalls the ``Sagebrush Rebellions'' of the 1980s in which counties in some Western states claimed control of federal land within their borders.

Grant County has about 7,500 residents and 60 percent of its land is publicly owned. It is economically depressed by reductions in logging.

Sawmills still operating do so on reduced shifts because of log shortages. The eastern Oregon county's unemployment rate - 13.5 percent - is the second-highest in the state, and people are moving away.

``We understand the frustration the folks in the community have,'' said Rex Holloway, a spokesman for the U.S. Forest Service in Portland. ``We have restoration work that we have been working with the community on and will continue to work with them on.''

Projects such as thinning work will produce jobs and could involve logging, he said.

The county also passed, 1,326 to 959, a measure banning United Nations action in the county.

``We don't want the U.N to come in here and step on us as a county and a state,'' Brusman said. ``It's a communist organization as far as we're concerned.''


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: federalpower; forests; localcontrol; logging; sagebrushrebellion; timber; unoutofusa
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Well this AP story finally got picked up .. by newspaper in England. It seemed to suffer the "news blackout" in the USA. Do you think there are special orders that go out to news editors or is their indoctrination so complete they just know not to run certain stories? This is the only hit on Google for the search "Oregon United Nations" on the news tool (which finds only stories posted to major news sites in the last week)
1 posted on 05/25/2002 12:25:11 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: madfly
fyi
2 posted on 05/25/2002 1:16:48 PM PDT by Fish out of Water
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To: Jack Black
And THIS is why I keep coming to Free Republic to get my news.

As an East-Oregonian, I'm concerned about the rural cleansing going on in these parts. But you just can't find these stories in the leftist media around here.

Thank you, Jim Rob, John Rob, and the rest of the gang!

3 posted on 05/25/2002 2:05:49 PM PDT by Siegfried
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To: Jack Black;Grampa Dave
Stop Rural Cleansing Now!
4 posted on 05/25/2002 3:46:46 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: Siegfried;editor-surveyor
BTTT!
5 posted on 05/25/2002 3:47:28 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: Jack Black;AuntB;JeffHead
Ping!
6 posted on 05/25/2002 3:48:52 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: Siegfried
Joining your thanks!

Eastern Oregon is beautiful country for people to live in! ;^)

7 posted on 05/25/2002 3:50:58 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: Jack Black;all
Want to tell lots of people about this? Go here:

Ignorance Making You Ill? Cure It!

for links, tools, & instructions about how to contact a pile of different people, and how to send a link to this story right here ( or anywhere else ) to a "mass email" using Outlook Express.


Do be advised that since I increased my volume of mass emails to letters to editors I have gotten return volleys of virus attacks- my ISP filters them out before the get to my PC, but if yours does not, take appropriate precautions to guard your PC.

I take this as a positive- my emails are simply links with no editorial content; so the other side must fear & loath the information even reaching the public.

8 posted on 05/25/2002 4:08:34 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: Jack Black
Let's call them "hush events" kind of like "hush crimes" because the commie/global news won't report them. In any case, should these people have trouble, I hope we can find details on it.
9 posted on 05/25/2002 4:13:42 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Jack Black
Does anyone have the text of this ordinance and the freedom from the UN ordinance they can post?

I surely would like to see them.
10 posted on 05/25/2002 4:22:30 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: backhoe
Bumping your great link in #8!

AND this thread. ;^)

11 posted on 05/25/2002 4:53:35 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: headsonpikes
A return bump to you, & I'll see you on that "Ignorance..." post-
12 posted on 05/25/2002 4:57:14 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: Free the USA, seamole, Ernest_at_the_Beach, freefly, expose; .30Carbine;4Freedom...
ping
13 posted on 05/26/2002 5:58:57 AM PDT by madfly
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To: madfly
Stop Rural Cleansing!!!!!
14 posted on 05/26/2002 6:25:05 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: madfly
Bump!
15 posted on 05/26/2002 7:38:23 AM PDT by F-117A
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To: madfly
Stop the attacks by the wacko, enviro-nazis terrorist's on our Freedoms !!

Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!

Molon Labe !!

16 posted on 05/26/2002 9:53:13 AM PDT by blackie
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Just got sent this story as well:

http://www.oregonlive.com/editorials/oregonian/index.ssf?/xml/story.ssf/html_standard.xsl?/base/editorial/102232783877310.xml Grant County's fury

05/26/02

R eally, there was but one question on the ballot in Oregon's Grant County last Tuesday: Why the hell not?

The answer, of course, was obvious.

Grant County's citizens voted to give themselves the authority to cut trees on the public land that surrounds their towns and scattered ranches. They also approved a second measure demanding the United Nations stay out of their county.

Why not?

Maybe it will draw attention to a desperately poor and deeply frustrated county noticed by the outside world usually once a year. Each summer when the wildfires burn close to town, somebody elbows the governor and he declares Grant County a disaster area.

Sure, it's crazy. The federal goverment can't just stand by while these good folks oil up their chain saws, fan out and decide among themselves which of the stands of ponderosa and lodgepole pine are ripe for the cutting.

The U.N. ballot measure claimed the U.N. Charter promotes seizure of small arms and private land, worldwide taxation and "one-world controlled education of our children." All that's both untrue and just plain weird, but 58 percent of voters went ahead and demanded that the U.N. stay out of Grant County anyway.

Why not?

Grant County doesn't have much left to lose. It has the second-highest unemployment rate in the state, approaching 16 percent, twice the rate that has prompted all the cries of pain in the Portland metropolitan area. And when you're unemployed in Grant County, you stay that way. New employers come around about as often as the United Nations General Assembly.

These people are furious. They've been locked out of the public forests and rangelands that surround them, that fed their mills and their families for generations. The feds keep promising a better, saner, predictable forest policy, one allowing some logging, some fire prevention, some salvage of timber after the inevitable fires that sweep through the county. It never comes.

Meanwhile, the families keep streaming away. Grant County's population has dropped from 8,100 to about 7,500 in the past decade. Its schools have 200 fewer children. Before last week's election, "For Sale" signs hammered into front yards outnumbered campaign signs. The one growing local population is cougars, freed from hound hunting thanks to protections approved by city folk. Now the big cats sometimes wander into the city limits of John Day, Prairie City and Granite, which recently was the last community in Oregon to get phone service.

Why not? By a 67 percent to 33 percent margin, voters approved the measure giving themselves stewardship rights of federal forests. The ballot backers already have scheduled a meeting this week to discuss how to begin removing dead and dying trees from the national forest. They say they plan to begin cutting roadside trees that pose danger to passing cars, and move onto others that could feed wildfires.

They can't do that. Both measures are clearly unconstitutional. The public forests of Grant County don't belong to the people who live around them. At the same time, they don't solely belong to the rest of us. Lands so rich in resources can and should be managed to sustain the communities of Grant County.

This election was a show of anger. It demands a serious response from the U.S. Forest Service and Bureau of Land Management.

Meanwhile, as tempers and temperatures rise further this spring, the people of Grant County must remember that they do have something left to lose: Their dignity. When they're invited to exploit this measure by breaking the law, and they again ask themselves, "Why not?," they need to have an answer.

17 posted on 05/26/2002 10:54:09 AM PDT by AuntB
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Siegfried, please see the story on post#16. Are you in Grant County or do you know any of the people involved in the initiative. I'd like to speak with them.
18 posted on 05/26/2002 10:56:08 AM PDT by AuntB
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To: Jeff Head; redrock; Washington_minuteman; Robert Drobot; MadameAxe; nunya bidness; GrandmaC...
FYI, please see the editorial from the Oregonian on Post#17. Our friends in Grant County appear to be serious about this.
19 posted on 05/26/2002 11:38:19 AM PDT by AuntB
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To: madfly
bump
20 posted on 05/26/2002 11:56:54 AM PDT by mafree
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