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Tempe narrowly approves smoking ban
The Arizona Republic ^ | 21 May 2002 | Heather Urquides

Posted on 05/22/2002 10:08:20 AM PDT by SheLion

Edited on 05/07/2004 5:20:54 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Tempe voters Tuesday narrowly approved the state's toughest public smoking ban, which requires even bars to become smoke-free.

"It's a win for the state of Arizona," said Tempe retired doctor Leland Fairbanks, who pledged Tempe will be the first step toward a statewide ban. Next target: Phoenix, he said.


(Excerpt) Read more at azcentral.com ...


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Business/Economy; Culture/Society; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: antismokers; butts; cigarettes; individualliberty; michaeldobbs; niconazis; prohibitionists; pufflist; smokingbans; tobacco
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1 posted on 05/22/2002 10:08:21 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: *puff_list; Just another Joe; Gabz; Great Dane; Max McGarrity; JohnHuang2 ...
"I think the other side did a good job of misinforming people," said his friend, Jerry Scheirer, 27.

Misinforming the people. Jerry hit the nail on the head. These are the key words here. When our side doesn't get to voice opinions and objections, this is what happenes.

I'm sure Tempe has plenty of restaurants where the "families" can go to eat. Why not leave the business's alone to decide if they want smoke free or not. Why make it a Law or Ban?

2 posted on 05/22/2002 10:10:59 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
Why make it a Law or Ban?

It's the American Way!

3 posted on 05/22/2002 10:11:35 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: SheLion
I'm so glad I no longer live in Tempe. With a controversial mayor, football stadium issue, etc. it sickens me.

I don't smoke but it should be left up to business oweners. This is going to hurt them more than the smokers.

Maybe we ought to pass a law that says environmentalists should give up all forms of transportation except bicycles. That will do them some good, especially when it is 110 degrees on a humid monsoon, day.

4 posted on 05/22/2002 10:13:47 AM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: SheLion
Good for Tempe. Smoking was not personally banned- it was banned in public places where second hand smoke represents a real health risk. There is no other habit that is so offensive to others trying to enjoy a meal or a night out. There is no "right to smoke"- only accomodations for these addicts at the expense of others.

A "no-smoking" section of a restaurant/bar is like a "no-peeing" section of a public pool.

5 posted on 05/22/2002 10:17:06 AM PDT by ArmoredCav
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To: SheLion
Cig Heil! Cig Heil! Cig Heil! Cig Heil! Cig Heil!

Soon it will be food. I hope those of you (idiots) who support the War on (Some) Drugs or, as it is more aptly titled, the War on Americans, are happy at monster you've wrought.

Cig Heil! Cig Heil! Cig Heil! Cig Heil! Cig Heil!

6 posted on 05/22/2002 10:17:37 AM PDT by Jonathon Spectre
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To: Jonathon Spectre
Your right, they want to Join the Star & Bear Lefto-Pinkie Socialist State of Cal-I-Forn-I-Cate in enslaving their people. And what’s NEXT, your Guns, places you live and can't also, etc-etc-etc????
7 posted on 05/22/2002 10:26:24 AM PDT by Wave Rider
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To: SheLion
Why make it a Law or Ban?

Because they're from the government, and they're here to help you.

8 posted on 05/22/2002 10:27:54 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: ArmoredCav
it was banned in public places where second hand smoke represents a real health risk.

No, it was banned in PRIVATE BUSINESSES.
If you can show me a study, that has not been discredited, that says ETS is a health risk, in and of itself, with no other health factors coming into play, I might be more willing to listen.

9 posted on 05/22/2002 10:28:16 AM PDT by Just another Joe
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To: SheLion
Another example of the people not being smart enough to know what's good for them. I have this neat trick for handling the problem of tobacco smoke; If I think there is too much smoke in the air at a particular bar or restaurant, I don't go there. It's amazing how well this works. I'm a non-smoker, and I live in Arizona. I eat (and drink, but don't tell anyone) at places that do allow smoking; the ventilation in in these buildings clears the air so well I don't know that people are smoking without looking for them.
10 posted on 05/22/2002 10:28:57 AM PDT by azsportsterman
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Tempe voters Tuesday narrowly approved the state's toughest public smoking ban, which requires even bars to become smoke-free.

We just had the city law here struck down recently by the appeals court. The city smoking law cannot be more stringent than the state law, as I understand it.

Excerpts from: SMOKING BAN STRUCK DOWN

From Tribune News Services [03/15/01]

LANSING, MICHIGAN -- Local governments in Michigan do not have the authority to prohibit smoking in restaurants, a state appeals panel ruled Wednesday.

The three-judge panel of the Michigan Court of Appeals sided with a local judge who struck down a restaurant smoking ban in Marquette two years ago.

In the majority opinion, two judges said Michigan law bars local officials from exceeding smoking limits in the state public health code, which directs restaurants to have separate seating areas for smokers and non-smokers.

Judge Joel Hoekstra agreed that Marquette went too far, but disagreed with some of the majority's reasoning. He argued that the state health code pre-empts local standards only when they are weaker than what the state requires. But he said Marquette had run afoul of a broader state law that limits local government regulation of food service establishments and vending machines.

There was no immediate word from Marquette officials on whether they would appeal to the state Supreme Court.

The Michigan Restaurant Association had joined six local establishments and the Michigan Chamber of Commerce in challenging the Marquette ordinance.

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I think the bars may have a case if they want to appeal to a higher authority. The law won't last long, IMHO.

I'm a non-smoker by the way.

11 posted on 05/22/2002 10:29:47 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill
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To: ArmoredCav;Just another Joe; Gabz; Great Dane; Max McGarrity; JohnHuang2 ...
Good for Tempe. Smoking was not personally banned- it was banned in public places where second hand smoke represents a real health risk. There is no other habit that is so offensive to others trying to enjoy a meal or a night out. There is no "right to smoke"- only accomodations for these addicts at the expense of others.

Oh Really?

You people are so misinformed.

Federal Court Rules Against EPA on Secondhand Smoke

Why do your kind always sweep this under the rug. Or don't you even know about it.

12 posted on 05/22/2002 10:29:59 AM PDT by SheLion
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Fine, I stopped doing anything in Mesa as a result of their ban, I no longer shop there, do business there, eat there, I can just as easily add Tempe to the mix. They want a Sports stadium and they ban smokers LOL!
13 posted on 05/22/2002 10:30:18 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: SheLion
The ban was passed by 53 percent of voters

And so the democracy hits again. 50% +1
I can't believe that we were once a constitutional republic.

15 posted on 05/22/2002 10:31:10 AM PDT by Just another Joe
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To: azsportsterman
Exactly. Just like in big casino's. Their smoke eaters will pull your hair up! The air is crystal clear and you would have to look to see if someone was smoking or not.

But, alas! Just the site of someone smoking sends these sharks into a feeding frenzy.

16 posted on 05/22/2002 10:32:03 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: ActionNewsBill
SMOKING BAN STRUCK DOWN

Thanks for posting this. And this is the way it SHOULD be. Left up to the owner of a business. HE is the one who sunk his blood, sweat, tears and money into it.

NOT the Boards of Health. They pass these bans, and you never SEE them again.

18 posted on 05/22/2002 10:34:16 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
The tyranny of the majority strikes again....
19 posted on 05/22/2002 10:34:17 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: SheLion
Reiner put River Phoenix in his movie, Stand By Me, and had him smoke throughout, Phoenix was only 14 years old.

Secondary violence is much more harmful - SUPPORT THE DINGBAT-MEATHEAD BILL - STOP INDOOR MOVIE AND TV VIEWING NOW!
20 posted on 05/22/2002 10:34:45 AM PDT by Republicus2001
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