Michael Moore: Guns for "containing slavery"

It's late afternoon on the terrace of the Carlton Hotel in Cannes and Michael Moore is behind schedule. By the time he hoves into view, he is an hour late. An imposingly large figure in his trademark baseball cap and spectacles, he manoeuvres himself behind a table and orders lunch (soup, a club sandwich and a coke with no ice). He puts on his shades and then takes them off again when the photographer says he can't see Moore's eyes. "I'll put my real glasses on so you don't have to deal with this Hollywood stuff. You want to see the soul, right?" A hotel manager, who clearly thinks Moore is an American tourist, comes over to tell the photographer that it's forbidden to take pictures without permission.

"If you're in a room, you can spot the American not just because of his accent but because of HOW LOUD HIS VOICE IS," Moore suddenly shouts as the manager retreats, but the clowning is half-hearted. He is jet-lagged. Besides, he is in town to talk guns and that – it soon becomes apparent – is not a subject to joke about. Today his new documentary Bowling For Columbine receives its world premiere in competition at the festival. (This is an unlikely achievement in itself. Officially, documentaries aren't allowed, but the selection committee has made an exception for him. "I didn't submit it," he says. "They called me and said they were so moved by this film and they wanted it to appear very early on in the festival to maybe set a tone.")

Moore, who first made his mark with Roger & Me (1989), is a familiar face on British TV from shows such asThe Awful Truth and TV Nation. He is now a national celebrity in the US. His recent book, Stupid White Men... and other Sorry Excuses for the State of the Nation!, is at the top of the New York Times best-seller list. "It's clearly being bought by a lot of stupid white men," he chuckles. "Maybe we're a self-hating lot."

But it's guns he wants to talk about. Moore is obsessed by them. He is the reluctant owner of a rifle. "I went to open up this bank account in Michigan and they gave me one." His wife wants him to get rid of it, but it's still languishing in the closet. "It's not loaded. There's no ammunition anywhere near it." He doesn't like having it around, but he can't bring himself to dispose of it. That, he would argue, is the US problem in a nutshell. Too many of his fellow citizens feel exactly the same way.

Growing up in Michigan, Moore was surrounded by guns. In northern Michigan, on the opening day of deer season, over a million enthusiastic sharpshooters take to the woods. Moore was a crack shot himself. "But I tended to believe as I got older that guns aren't a good thing to have around," Moore frowns.

"Are we a nation of gun nuts or are we just nuts?" is the central question that Bowling For Columbine asks. The question comes from one of the parents of the victims of the Columbine massacre who asks: "Are we Americans homicidal by nature?" Moore's own conclusions are bleak. "The early genesis of fear in America came from having a slave population... that grew from 700,000 to four million," he states. The Colt 6-shooter, invented in 1836, was cheap and portable, and was just what the white folk needed to "contain slavery" for the final 25 years. "It's something we're raised with in the United States – to believe in not only the gun, but using violence to get what we want and enforce a class system, so the have-nots stay there."

Moore was in his office when the massacre at the Columbine High School in Littleton, Colorado, took place in 1999. He had just filmed a piece for Channel 4 entitled (prophetically) Teen Sniper School. "We were satirising how parents teach their kids to shoot guns," he recalls. He was dismayed, but not surprised. There had already been three or four school shootings that year. "It seemed like it was happening every month, but this was just the worst of them."

Using the Freedom of Information act, he was able to secure recorded tapes from the security cameras in the cafeteria from the morning of the massacre. He got hold of a CD-Rom of the 911 calls made by those stuck inside the school. The authorities tried to encode messages that they didn't want the public to hear, but Moore hacked into the CD-Rom and retrieved everything. Some of the calls from the victims are featured in the film. "But a lot of the calls are from the media, calling the emergency lines to see if they can get somebody on the air."

In the course of his research, Moore visited Charlton Heston, president of the National Rifle Association. "Why he agreed to talk to me I'll never know," Moore smirks. "Once I was inside his house and the interview began, I felt like Toto the dog pulling back the curtain to reveal that the Wizard Of Oz was just a frightened old man who couldn't talk in normal sentences."

Heston simply repeated the party line of the NRA in robotic fashion. "I wasn't there to talk politics with him. I was there to talk about him personally, as a human being. And he didn't know how to respond to that."

Asked why he kept a loaded gun in the house, Heston admitted he'd never been a victim of crime or been threatened. "Why do you have it loaded if you're not afraid of anything?" Moore asked. "Because the Second Amendment gives me the right to have it." The conversation went around in circles.

More eloquent voices than Heston's have supported the right to own guns. Take the arguments of Hunter S Thompson, who seemingly sees the right to own a gun as part of what defines being American. Moore says many of his friends "believe strongly in the right to own guns – and they're liberals." But he dismisses their arguments. At bottom, he believes, those who own guns do so because they're afraid.

In the film, Moore visits Canada. There are 10 million homes there, and seven million guns. "And yet there are little more than 100 murders in a year in a nation of 30 million people." The Canadians watch the same violent movies, play the same video games and listen to the same rock'n'roll music. So why don't they shoot each other? Moore can't provide an answer, "but it dispels the liberal argument that, if only we got rid of the guns, we'd have a better society."

So what's the solution in the US? In the short term, Moore advocates a blanket ban. "We're not straight up here," he points at his head. "Until we are, it's not good to have a lot of guns around." In the long run, Americans need to create a different type of society – and stop electing right-wing governments. "I don't know if the film is too late for us," he sighs, "but maybe it can be a warning for other countries."

Not that Moore is entirely depressed about the US. After 11 September, he embarked on a long road trip, taking in Arizona, Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico and Missouri, staying in motels, eating in diners and listening to local talk radio. "These are the States that George Bush, Dick Cheney and John Ashcroft are from. We expected to hear bloodthirsty calls for revenge, but instead we heard a lot of people reflecting on what had happened and why... I thought, maybe there's some hope here, after all."

Lessee. He's making an anti-gun agit-prop film and he's interviewing the head of an American gun owners' lobby.

But make no mistake. This is just a courtesy call to find out what it was like to star in Ben Hur and Planet Of The Apes. What was the stuff that the made the prop "Soylant Green" out of since they couldn't really use people?

R-ight.

Not that Moore is entirely depressed about the US.

From reports Moore posted on his own website, he was stuck with what to do with his film that he was editing when we were attacked on 9/11. The largest number of people murdered and not a single gun was used.

It made him question just what he was doing. Of course he still makes the plea to bans guns and vote anarchist-socialist. Way to go, commie!

I think that he's making the other argument, that slavery gave us a need for guns. Since slavery was horrible, the least we could do is get rid of the guns...

Maybe we should put down free speech because it allows to him to spout nonsense?

He should be so proud of himself that he uses his first ammendment rights to profit off the Columbine situation.

What's more, the suicidal terrorist pair got what they wanted: news and movie fame.

America. What a country.

p.s. He mentions Hunter S. Thompson. I was reading his Hell's Angels book when the Columbine shootings took place. There is a passage in there about some high school kids who went to school to shoot the jocks and the preps. It is somewhere near the end of the book as he's trying to put the post WWII outsider outlaw culture (and biker culture) into perspective as to where it may be leading us.

This is the mid-60s folks. Faded from the public consciousness.

why some fool who cant groom himself enough to not wear a hat is fit to make pronouncements on anything of substance is beyond me...cover hollywood, pissant.

He conveniently ignores the fact that firearms helped free the slaves. Harriet Tubman comes to mind.

Darned straight.

Question: What do you call a slave with a shotgun?

Answer: A free man.

The early genesis of fear in America came from having a slave population... that grew from 700,000 to four million," he states. The Colt 6-shooter, invented in 1836, was cheap and portable, and was just what the white folk needed to "contain slavery" for the final 25 years. "

The Colt was the high-tech wonder of its age. It was also fantastically expensive. It was bought by people who took survival very seriously. Oh, and the 1836 Patterson was a five-shooter.

So much for his "documentary" ability. What a total waste of white.

He is now a national celebrity in the US.

Whatever! He's known for one movie, a TV show that was on for a summer (and not invited back), and a book that only the stupidest Gore-voter will buy. He's falls just a tad short of being a celebrity. He's a wannabe and nothing more.

What about the poor whites and owning guns? Should racism/slavery to be blamed all on all whites now? I think discrimination exists today in forms of affirmative action. Minorities probably get more opportunities for college academic/sport scholarships and also jobs. Look at professional sports and tell me jesse jackson and the NAACP wouldn't be screaming if the percentages were reversed?

Michael Moore is as stupid as he is fat. And he's getting fatter every day.

The fat bastard is the best example of why liberals can make films, write books, anchor newscasts, and edit newspapers, but not successfully host talk-radio shows. Moore's inconsistent ramblings and lack of facts would not stand up to the barrage of dissenting phone calls he would have to air.

Dean Wormer said it all when it comes to this putz:

Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son.

"Why do you have a fire extinguisher in your kitchen, if you've never had a kitchen fire?" "Why do you wear a seatbelt while driving, if you've never been in an accident?"

The list of this sort of questions can go on and on... Interesting how a writer can ignore the obvious when they're writing a propaganda piece.

Mark

I guess it never occured to this guy that if Africans had had guns, their tribal leaders and the arabs wouldn't have been able to enslave them and sell them to overseas shippers in the first place.

I am always interested when I see the rankings of his book. I was in a Barnes & Nobles last weekend and I was paging through his book. The store manager happened by and I asked her how the book was selling and she told me it was a disappointment and after the initial rush of interested fans it wasn't working at all as an impulse pick up.

There's a lot of hanky panky surrounding NY Times and Amazon.com best seller lists. Who knows how many copies are being bought back by the publisher or by groups affiliated with Moore to pump these lists.

The guy is just a gross dirtbag.

"a book that only the stupidest Gore-voter will buy."
I went out to dinner last night with my Wife, Son, and my In-Laws for my Father-in-law's birthday. My Wife's Mom started saying about how she just finished reading this book and how great it was......

You wouldn't believe how hard it was to bite my tongue!!!!

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