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ISLAM AND JUDAISM CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE WORLD
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Posted on 05/07/2002 9:54:28 AM PDT by besieged

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To: AppyPappy
I can't verify except to concur. The Arabs once were very advanced in mathmatics. The base 10 counting system was an Arabic invention, which we still use today.
21 posted on 05/07/2002 10:19:20 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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To: RightWhale
But then something happened to the great Islamic civilization, and make no mistake, it was the most advanced on earth at the time. A lot of the destruction took place in present day Iran and Iraq and was done by the Mongol Hordes.

Burning the beards off four of Chengis Khan's ambassadors and sending them back to Chengis Khan like that to show Chengis Khan what bad people they were is not what I would call a sign of superior intelligence or anything like that; I mean, if you had to pick the last, and I mean the very last guy who ever lived that you'd ever want to #&$@ with.....

22 posted on 05/07/2002 10:22:16 AM PDT by medved
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To: Surge-on
All Religons are false. They are nothing more than fantasies intended to prop up the weak willed or simple minded.
24 posted on 05/07/2002 10:25:23 AM PDT by winner45
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To: LurkedLongEnough
If the Arabic peoples are not out there winning secular awards, maybe it's because they are more interested in spiritual endeavors.

Like

OK, did I miss any spiritual activities characteristic of Islam?
25 posted on 05/07/2002 10:25:31 AM PDT by TomSmedley
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To: RightWhale
Looked up Snell's law but in the many many pages on this subject not one mentioned anything about Arabs.
26 posted on 05/07/2002 10:25:37 AM PDT by Gaston
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To: AppyPappy
Snell's Law: n1*sin(theta1) = n2*sin(theta2)

N is the index of refraction of the medium, theta is the angle of the light ray in the medium. This was used to calculate the surfaces of "burning lenses."

27 posted on 05/07/2002 10:26:03 AM PDT by RightWhale
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To: tyop
"It should be noted that the Arabic numerals were neither invented by nor used by the Arabs. They were developed in India by the Hindus around 600 AD. Interestingly, these numbers were written "backwards", thus one hundred twenty three was written 321.

Around 750 AD this system of decimal arithmetic was brought to Persia when several important Hindu works were translated into Arabic.

The noted Arab mathematician al-Khwârizmî (Muhammad b. Musa al-Khwârizmî ca. 875) wrote a textbook on the subject which now exists only in a number of Latin versions. In these a point is used for zero.

In ca. 952 Abu'l-Hasan-al-Uqlidisi wrote the Book of the parts of Indian Arithmetic which contains an explanation and application of decimal fractions. [Hassan and Hill 1986 p 24] In the transmission of Arabic numerals to Europe the method of writing numbers became reversed to the present method in the process." [Knuth 1981 p 181]

29 posted on 05/07/2002 10:27:43 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: LurkedLongEnough
Yes, we've seen plenty of those spiritual endeavors on the streets of Jerusalem and elsewhere. I'd suggest if they want to see Allah, that they do so by themselves, and not take innocents with them.

A long time ago, Islam had a flourishing and scholarly culture. Then the fundamentalists took over, a thousand or so years ago, and Islamic culture has stagnated ever since. About that time, Europe pulled itself out of the Dark Ages, and the West has left Islam in the dust ever since. They know it, and they resent it. . . .

31 posted on 05/07/2002 10:29:11 AM PDT by Salgak
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To: winner45
All Religons are false. They are nothing more than fantasies intended to prop up the weak willed or simple minded.

Well, you sound like a "loser" to me, but that must be left for another day and another discussion.

32 posted on 05/07/2002 10:29:36 AM PDT by Surge-on
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To: Gaston
not one mentioned anything about Arabs

Funny thing, isn't it? Some of the most famous scientists of the Renaissance were Arabic speaking Arabs whose names were Romanized for one reason or another.

33 posted on 05/07/2002 10:30:07 AM PDT by RightWhale
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To: tyop; Appy Pappy
And "algorithm," named not after a blowhard no-nothing vice-president, but the famous 8th-9th century mathematician "Al-Khowarizmi."

Here's a really nice site dedicated to the history of mathematics.

http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/BiogIndex.html

Click on the "500-1499 a.d." link and you'll see a boatload of Arabs.

34 posted on 05/07/2002 10:30:23 AM PDT by TheHeterodoxConservative
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To: Blood of Tyrants
"The base 10 counting system was an Arabic invention, which we still use today."

Most counting today is done in base 2.

35 posted on 05/07/2002 10:31:35 AM PDT by babygene
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To: TomSmedley
OK, did I miss any spiritual activities characteristic of Islam?

I think that you have pegged just about right, Tom!

36 posted on 05/07/2002 10:31:43 AM PDT by Surge-on
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To: besieged
bttt
37 posted on 05/07/2002 10:32:07 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: LurkedLongEnough
maybe it's because they are more interested in spiritual endeavors.

Nah...not so much spiritual as in just in blowing things up and hating everyone for being so much better.

38 posted on 05/07/2002 10:32:08 AM PDT by Wm Bach
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To: besieged
Intelligence is a great gift and the Jews are blessed with it, but just being smart doesn't necessarily make you morally right.

Fritz Haber is one of the Jews on that list. He won the Nobel prize for chemistry for his invention of electrolysis of water and then turned his attentions to developing poison gasses for the Kaiser. Ironically the man who invented modern chemical warfare was himself gassed in the holocaust.

One could bring up other Jews that were also brilliant and brought the world nothing but suffering like Lenin and Trotsky.

I'm not trying to imply that Jews are evil geniuses, (they have contributed greatly to mankind), just stating that you can't equate someones humanity with their intelligence.

39 posted on 05/07/2002 10:32:25 AM PDT by elmer fudd
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To: ecomcon;tyop;RightWhale;AppyPappy
The Development of Algebra

The Hindus and Arabs

After the decline of the Roman Empire (not that the Romans did anything for maths!) India became the temporary centre of mathematical research. The most important contributions of the Hindus in the second half of the first millenium were the decimal place system, the introduction of zero and negative numbers, and the development of algebra. Whereas Diophantus' first step in the solution of a linear equation was to remove the negative terms, the Hindus worked with negative numbers from about 600 A.D. A number was turned into the corresponding negative quantity by placing a dot over it. They also had a method for representing positive and negative numbers pictorially by line segments in different directions, corresponding to our representation using a number line. In their treatment of equations in several unknowns, the Hindus also achieved some advance on Diophantus, in that they actually worked with several unknowns using different colours to distinguish them. Thus the second unknown was called "the black one", the third "The blue one", etc. Since they allowed negative numbers in their solution of quadratic equations, they could combine the various cases considered by Diophantus into one rule, and had a method of solution similar to our formula for quadratics today. The Hindus were the first to show an awareness of the fact that roots occur in pairs, and occasionally even admitted negative roots as solutions. The Arabs took over the preparatory work done by the Greeks and Hindus in algebra. Their most important algebraist was al-Khowarizmi (9th century - his name is commemorated in the word "algorithm"). His major work is entitled "Al-jabr wa'lmugabalah" (restoration and balancing) and from the first word in this title we now have the word "algebra". However his algebra was a rhetorical algebra which, unlike the work of Diophantus, did not use symbols for particular arithmetical operations.

40 posted on 05/07/2002 10:36:42 AM PDT by Gaston
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