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Algeria War 1954-1962
Modern Times ^ | 1983 | Paul Johnson

Posted on 04/24/2002 1:18:49 PM PDT by JasonC

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To: JasonC

Bump to read later.


81 posted on 06/21/2004 9:43:56 AM PDT by Made In The USA (REMEMBER NICK BERG.)
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To: Van Jenerette; kjenerette

...interesting reading.


82 posted on 06/21/2004 11:01:55 AM PDT by Van Jenerette (Our Republic - If we can Keep it!)
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To: JasonC
Algeria was a classic case of this reversal. It was not so much a French colony as a Mediterranean settlement. In the 1830s there were only 1.5 million Arabs there, and their numbers were dwindling. The Mediterranean people moved from the northern shores to the southern ones, into what appeared to be a vacuum: to them the great inland sea was a unity, and they had as much right to its shores as anyone provided they justified their existence by wealth creation. And they did: they expanded 2000 square miles of cultivated land in 1830 to 27000 by 1954. These pied noirs were only 20 per cent French in origin (including Corsicans and Alsacians). They were predominantly Spanish in the west, Italian (and Maltese) in the east. But rising prosperity attracted others: Kabyles, Chaouias, Mzabite, Mauritanians, Turks and pure Arabs, from the mountains, the west, the south, the east. And the French medical services virtually eliminated malaria, typhus and typhoid and effected a prodigious change in the non-European infant mortality rates. By 1906 the Muslim population had jumped to 4.5 million; by 1954 to 9 million. By the mid 1970s it had more than doubled again. If the French population had risen at the same rate, it would have been over 300 million by 1950. The French policy of "assimilation", therefore, was nonsense, since by the year 2000 Algerian Muslims would have constituted more than half the French population, and Algeria would have "assimilated" France rather than the reverse. (Aside - in actuality, Algeria now has 32 million people to 60 million in France).

Tell that to Israel! If the Moslems are going to multiply that fast, the Jews are doomed to be a minority in Israel soon.

83 posted on 06/21/2004 11:15:08 AM PDT by philosofy123
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84 posted on 10/29/2004 7:21:00 PM PDT by dennisw (Gd - against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: dennisw

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85 posted on 10/29/2004 8:47:14 PM PDT by dennisw (Gd - against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: Tolik

You should read this thread. A summary: Historical analysis shows the importance of Moral Clarity, which sheds light on our current situation, and helps us see how to proceed, and how not to.


86 posted on 10/30/2004 4:44:49 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (hoplophobia is a mental aberration rather than a mere attitude)
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To: dennisw; backhoe; RLK; JasonC; Travis McGee; Vigilantcitizen

Thanks for resurrecting.

Does anyone have a collection of "heavy on the history" threads like this?


87 posted on 10/30/2004 4:52:42 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (hoplophobia is a mental aberration rather than a mere attitude)
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To: Travis McGee; JasonC

"Indiscriminate reprisals strengthen the terrorists. Targeted ones weaken them. Aim is everything"

New tagline.


88 posted on 10/30/2004 5:12:53 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Indiscriminate reprisals strengthen the terrorists. Targeted ones weaken them. Aim is everything.)
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To: FreedomPoster
And the upshot of the story is Algeria is a rotten Islamic hole just like most other Islamic "nations". They got rid of the French and now infest France with their hordes. Ossified European welfare states hand out new baby bennies as if things were the same as 20 years ago. Muzzies grab the bennies to have huge families in their relentless Demographic Jihad.
89 posted on 10/30/2004 5:21:42 AM PDT by dennisw (Gd - against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: dennisw

>>their relentless Demographic Jihad.

Thankfully, our immigrants from the South are generally Christians, and not Islamics.

I really wonder what Europe will look like in, say, 75 years. It ought to be interesting enough by the time of my estimated actuarial death, in about 35-40 years.


90 posted on 10/30/2004 5:49:04 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (hoplophobia is a mental aberration rather than a mere attitude)
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To: FreedomPoster

Thanks for the ping. Good thread.


91 posted on 10/30/2004 6:37:25 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (#40)
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To: harpseal

Rest in Peace.


92 posted on 10/30/2004 6:46:44 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (#40)
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To: FreedomPoster
It's so old I'm not sure what it covers!

Terror in Algeria- a little history, please....
various websites | 12-15-01 | backhoe

93 posted on 10/30/2004 7:06:37 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Dawn of Information...)
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To: JasonC; Lando Lincoln; quidnunc; .cnI redruM; Valin; yonif; SJackson; dennisw; monkeyshine; ...

A fascinating reading, perhaps for a bit slower times than now about Algeria descending into darkness 50 years ago. Paul Johnson tells the story to learn from.

This ping list is not author-specific for articles I'd like to share. Some for perfect moral clarity, some for provocative thoughts; or simply interesting articles I'd hate to miss myself. (I don't have to agree with the author 100% to feel the need to share an article.) I will try not to abuse the ping list and not to annoy you too much, but on some days there is more of good stuff that is worthy attention. I keep separate PING lists for my favorite authors Victor Davis Hanson, Lee Harris, David Warren, Orson Scott Card. You are welcome in or out, just freepmail me (and note which PING list you are talking about).

94 posted on 11/01/2004 12:09:51 PM PST by Tolik
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To: JasonC

Modern Times, A MUST read.


97 posted on 11/01/2004 5:23:45 PM PST by Valin (Out Of My Mind; Back In Five Minutes)
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To: dennisw

If I may, I'd like to recommend "The Shadow War" by Richard Miniter. He talks about the war on terror in N. Africa and the role of Algerian government in fighting it.


98 posted on 11/01/2004 5:27:44 PM PST by Valin (Out Of My Mind; Back In Five Minutes)
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To: Valin

I will try to read it. He's an optimist as far as taking on the bad elements in Islam. He was on the local radio.


99 posted on 11/01/2004 9:14:37 PM PST by dennisw (Gd - against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: JasonC
Muhammad's Koran-inspired persecution of Christians, Jews and all non-Muslims continues...
100 posted on 12/18/2004 12:18:02 AM PST by miltonim (Fight those who do not believe in Allah. - Koran, Surah IX: 29)
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