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Egyptian Columnist: Guantanamo is the Real Auschwitz
Our Jerusalem ^ | last updated Thu Apr 11 21:59:45 2002

Posted on 04/11/2002 8:28:47 PM PDT by Bad~Rodeo

Our Jerusalem--An article by Islamist Dr. Rif'at Sayyid Ahmad, titled "Guantanamo, the Auschwitz of the American era: J'accuse!!" recently appeared in the Lebanese daily Al-Liwa. The article described the detention of the Al-Qaida and Taliban members at Guantanamo as a war crime. Following are excerpts from the article:

ArabPress---Guantanamo Bay: 'The American Auschwitz' "...We always see how human beings prey upon each other, how values are trampled, and how tragedies recur. This is exactly what happened, and is still happening, at the 'American Auschwitz' detention camp...excuse me, I meant the detention camp at Guantanamo Bay!! This is one of the worst deeds of the American era in which we live, and one of the most infamous of its crimes, and will go down in history if [history] is written by men of honor, not by traitors."

"This detention camp reminds me of 'J'accuse' by Emile Zola, who, in 1898, defended Alfred Dreyfus, the French officer of the Jewish faith... This French officer objected to his trial being exploited by the Zionist Jews, led by Herzl. He [also] refused to meet with them because he objected to the Zionist plan and to the establishment of an independent [Jewish] state, and supported Jewish integration into [European] society. He saw [his trial] as fundamentally French, completely unconnected to his religion. This is what spurred Emil Zola to take up the subject in his political-literary article 'J'accuse,' for which he paid a heavy price; he too was sentenced to prison, for a year, for the offense of [publishing] the article..."

"With his article, Emile Zola implanted in the Western conscience principles which, in my opinion, are being completely destroyed today. The first of these is respect for the value of the individual as an individual, regardless of nationality, religion, or the color of his skin. [Second,] the value of resistance to oppression, primarily [oppression] by someone who rules and holds power against the weak and who cannot confront him. [Third,] the value of liberty and the risk of depriving the individual of it..."

"It is interesting how perceptions, values, and history have changed from Zola's time to the war crimes now being committed by the U.S., the length and breadth of the world, primarily in Guantanamo. This detention camp is the outcome of the crime of the destruction of Afghanistan (30,000 dead and hundreds of villages destroyed!!)."

"Has the situation changed? History repeats itself, painfully. This time, we are not talking of a single Dreyfus, but of nearly 2,500 Muslim Dreyufuses, placed in iron cages like animals and treated with a cruelty rarely found even among the wild beasts in the jungles. These are the days of the Stone Age, days in which the difference between human beings, stones, and animals has disappeared!!... This is a cruelty that demands more than one Emil Zola to cry out before the arrogant and bloodthirsty master of the world [President Bush]...'J'accuse'!!"

"While Zola accused eight high-ranking generals in the French army...I direct my political and moral accusation at the president of the U.S.; his deputy Dick Cheney, that super-racist Jew; his secretary of state, Colin Powell; his intelligence minister [sic]; his national security advisor; his war ministry staff [sic]; his administration in the White House; British Prime Minister Tony Blair... who played the role of procurer, as did all the ministers and presidents of the European Union countries who have participated in and supported the crime being committed at Guantanamo and who, by their declared collaboration or their open silence, have brought to ruin the values that they claim exist in their civilization – the values of Emil Zola, Montesquieu, Russell, and Toynbee..."

U.S. Committing War Crimes

"We accuse all these of committing, or participating in committing, the crime of war against humanity taking place before their very eyes in Guantanamo, without opening their mouths. They even exacerbate [the crime and create] another Auschwitz, at the beginning of the new century. Auschwitz, for those who don't know, is the detention camp in which, it is claimed, Hitler burned Jews in gas chambers during World War II."

"The stench of their charred skin filled the nose from dozens of kilometers away. Although I do not believe this exaggerated Jewish yarn, the detention camp [at Auschwitz] did indeed exist, and there was a Nazi crime against all of humanity (not only against the Jews, as they claim)... If the stench filled noses for miles around, then [today] the same stench fills the nose of the 'civilized' West, extorted financially, politically, and educationally, as Holocaust studies are mandatory in European schools, as a supreme value that cannot be ignored or denied."

"If indeed this happened in Hitler's Auschwitz, why can't it happen in Bush's Auschwitz?! Could it be because those whose skin burns in the Cuban sun, in the iron cages exposed [to the sun] from all directions – because these men whose humanity is stripped from them, who are turned into 'objects,' neither men nor beasts – are Muslims?! Is the Western conscience dead, and has it sunk to this level of barbarity?..."

"If what happened in the U.S. on September 11, 2001 (which I oppose from the humane point of view, but nothing more) and the disastrous war in Afghanistan that followed, are termed 'the first war of the century,' then what is happening in Guantanamo is worthy of being called 'the first Auschwitz of the century'..."

Bush Administration Does Not Trust Its 'Impotent Homosexual Military'

"The increased security measures and the restrictions placed on the [Guantanamo] detainees expose the fear of the Muslim that dwells in the heart of the American fighter. These also reveal that the American leadership does not trust the abilities of its impotent and homosexual fighters, who fear for their lives, unlike the [Muslim] prisoners who persistently seek martyrdom..." (1)Endnotes: (1) Al-Liwa (Lebanon), February 21, 2002.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: clashofcivilizatio; historylist; islamicviolence; johnwalkertrial; talibanlist; taqiyyalist; terrorwar; unlist; zionist
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To: Bad~Rodeo
I'm not mormally a kneejerk Israel supporter, but this sort of filth from the Arab world drives me closer to becoming one. Leave it to a pitiful creature that passes for an intellectual in the Arab world to attempt to invoke Aushwitz while simultaneously striving to kill Jews.
21 posted on 04/11/2002 9:06:11 PM PDT by Snuffington
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To: SouthernFreebird
What the F is in the dope they smoke over there?

Same thing liberals are smoking in South Florida I guess. Maybe not quite as powerful but close. Creates a more schzoid high for sure. The same people here who yell about Gitmo being a concentration camp urge everyone to send money or rally in the streets in support of Israel.

22 posted on 04/11/2002 9:06:16 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: Cultural Jihad
Gee. Reading this person's screed makes "the Real Auschwitz" seem not so bad after all.

Who knew that Auschwitz consisted of great medical care; humane interrogation; Fruit Loops/bagels/orange juice and fresh milk in the morning, cola, lunchmeat sandwiches on fresh bread, and chips for lunch, and a varied banquet every evening; freely-provided religious materials and respectful distance during the practice thereof; regular voluntary exercise; and undisturbed sleep every evening.

Who knew the Jews had it that good at Auschwitz?

23 posted on 04/11/2002 9:06:32 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Bad~Rodeo
One small difference: in Gitmo the showers run on water not gas.
24 posted on 04/11/2002 9:09:40 PM PDT by breakem
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To: Bad~Rodeo
LOL! It's so sad too when you think that the Arab world used to be a center of knowledge, teaching and literacy! Apparently, Egyptian libraries don't have any books on World History.
25 posted on 04/11/2002 9:11:04 PM PDT by txzman
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To: Lazamataz

Too bad I wasn't around back then to book a few weeks of R&R at that happy, carefree destination.

26 posted on 04/11/2002 9:12:26 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Snuffington
Having known a variety of anti-American Muslims through the years, this stuff doesn't surprise me. They believe this, you would be astounded at the stories they tell as facts. But it is getting harder and harder for me to have an ounce of sympathy for even their legitimate gripes. The hateful characterizations of the United States coming from oppressive lands gets so terribly tiresome.
27 posted on 04/11/2002 9:14:21 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: SouthernFreebird
The grill our boys are using for the pork roasts? Them terrorists might despoil the grill! I think it may be Hanging time.
28 posted on 04/11/2002 9:15:30 PM PDT by CARepubGal
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To: Ronin
We are in the opening stages of WW3; Western Civilization versus the Insane Death Cult.

We have many strengths, but they have millions of potential human bombs living among us already.

29 posted on 04/11/2002 9:17:14 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Bad~Rodeo
If the United States is as terrible as this idiot implies, then Egypt should immediately move to refuse to accept any more American foreign aid . In fact, they should even return all those tanks and airplanes.
30 posted on 04/11/2002 9:19:20 PM PDT by woodsman
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To: Bad~Rodeo
ROTFLMAO....I've been in County stockades much worse than what I've seen of Gitmo....hope they are torturing the poo out of those leaders they have.
32 posted on 04/11/2002 9:22:48 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Dolphy
I spoke witha friend who returned from Iran recently. Everybody who met him there, was asking how to come to America,...not as terrorists, but in search of the land of milk and honey.

Only 2 TV channels are authorized there, but all the cable we see here, they see. Satelite dishes are hidden everywhere even though they're illegal. He said some would install them in the bottom of their pools aiming towards the southern sky and still getting decent reception. Amazing how resourceful most people really are.... Considering the lack of terrorist attacks that could happen if this was truly a trend, the terrorist enemy seems much better controlled and contained by their natural organization than any other factor.

33 posted on 04/11/2002 9:23:22 PM PDT by Cvengr
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To: My Identity
They do believe it and that highlights the absurdity of ever coming to an understanding with these prevaricating extremists. The Muslim majority is fast becoming a culture of fanatics and liars
34 posted on 04/11/2002 9:33:32 PM PDT by luvbach1
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To: Bad~Rodeo
Must we keep posting the Egyptian dictator's propaganda? I guess it is instructive for some....
35 posted on 04/11/2002 9:41:52 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: Cultural Jihad
Too bad I wasn't around back then to book a few weeks of R&R at that happy, carefree destination.

Not open to everybody: you had to know someone.

36 posted on 04/11/2002 9:44:31 PM PDT by dighton
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To: Bad~Rodeo
These are the days of the Stone Age, days in which the difference between human beings, stones, and animals has disappeared!!...

Well, he's half right: These are the days when Stone Age anti-rationalist baboons turn the tools created by the rational thought of men against men. This they do with nothing more than the application of brute force against a society too civilized to recognize that it was under attack until too late - That the bipeds sharing their airplane cabin, studying at their schools, and infiltrating their society who appeared human, were really just animals in human form.

These animals are incapable of building an airliner, or a skyscraper, or fully appreciating what caused both to be created. They are only capable of destroying them, without ever having understood them.

Twenty-five years ago, when Julian Jaynes wrote The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind I thought that his premise was insane. Jaynes postulated that human consciousness did not begin far back in animal evolution but is a learned process brought into being out of an earlier hallucinatory mentality by cataclysm and catastrophe only 3000 years ago and still developing. In short, he argued that rational thought is a relatively recent development in human history. Before September 11th, I dismissed this theory as an interesting, but whacky, intellectual exercise. Now, I'm beginning to suspect that much (not all) of the Islamic world operates at the bicameral level.

I don't for the life of me understand why so many choose to treat this failed culture of ignorance as the moral equivalent of our own.

37 posted on 04/11/2002 10:11:37 PM PDT by LouD
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To: McGavin999
These people are such incredible liars.

Well now America is getting to taste the kind of hyperbole that is usualy reserved for the Jews. Strange isn't it?

The funny thing is that the prisoners in the "American Austwitz" are being treated better and with more respect than the free Islamics under their dictators! If it was not for the bars, which are in place because to protect the zoo keepers...

38 posted on 04/11/2002 10:12:31 PM PDT by American in Israel
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To: Bad~Rodeo
Egyptian Columnist: Guantanamo is the Real Auschwitz

I haven't even read it yet and I KNOW this is going to be good.

39 posted on 04/11/2002 10:28:13 PM PDT by Valin
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To: LouD
read the koran and a bit of the hadith with jaynes in mind...then listen to the way these nutcase mohams repeat those "words of authority" as though they made sense...watch a few films of moham students endlessly repeating aloud the words of the koran...

i'd reckon that jaynes had it rather accurately...

40 posted on 04/11/2002 10:29:39 PM PDT by atafak
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