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Hawaii Governor Kills Van Cams
The Honolulu Advertiser ^ | 04/10/02 | Lynda Arakawa, Mike Gordon

Posted on 04/10/2002 4:10:05 PM PDT by Spyder

Edited on 05/07/2004 6:18:27 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

A surprising vote by the House last night to repeal traffic camera enforcement of speeding on state roads and highways was the final blow to the much-maligned program. After learning of the vote, Gov. Ben Cayetano today terminated the program, effective immediately.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: hawaii; photoradar; trafficcameras; vancams
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To: My2Cents
Hawaii Governor Kills Squirrel Plan
21 posted on 04/10/2002 4:54:25 PM PDT by general_re
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To: Spyder
The truth is, they can't catch up with all those tourists. The car and mini-van rental companies may be getting billed for all their speeding clients.
22 posted on 04/10/2002 4:55:27 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: RGSpincich
The truth is, they can't catch up with all those tourists.

That was, I think, only a minor consideration. It might be more of a problem on the outer islands but on Oahu I see a lot more rentals holding up traffic than speeding. Reminiscent of a bumper sticker I saw on Maui, "A whale sighting does not constitute an emergency."

23 posted on 04/10/2002 5:09:51 PM PDT by Spyder
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To: Spyder
Gee, let's see....the Democrats support hidden traffic cameras. The Republicans oppose them.

Which party is fascist?

24 posted on 04/10/2002 5:27:44 PM PDT by MonroeDNA
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To: My2Cents
Isn't Van Cams that kung-fu movie star.

I hate there accent and contant splits being done in every movie like a girl.

25 posted on 04/10/2002 5:31:11 PM PDT by A CA Guy
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To: Spyder
From the first paragraph of the article...traffic camera enforcement of speeding on state roads and highways

Photo radar and red light cameras are not and never have been about safety. Politicians can pay all the lip service they want about safety, but the primary purpose always has been and always will be revenue enhancement. In other words...a back door tax. Anyone who believes otherwise is either naive and/or stupid.

26 posted on 04/10/2002 5:33:02 PM PDT by AlaskaErik
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To: Spyder
"A whale sighting does not constitute an emergency." Bump
28 posted on 04/10/2002 5:58:26 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: AlaskaErik
Remember when the fascists tried to get photo radar in Anchorage? Thankfully after it's day in court, it, and all the tickets got tossed.
29 posted on 04/10/2002 7:05:49 PM PDT by Issaquahking
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To: general_re
Yes! No more canned clams! You must eat

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30 posted on 04/10/2002 7:06:59 PM PDT by petuniasevan
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To: Spyder
Well, in the People's DemoRATik Republic of Merryland (Rainbow fags everywherre), Mongomery counties and others are rushing to PROTECT the stupid general public from itself by rapidly installing new red light cameras everyday. The Dis-Trick is planning on van cams. The DemoRats have raised so many taxes that Cash cows like these cameras (sold in the name of safety)are the only way to generate NEW funds for....well, like making sure that former felons can reurn to the voting booth (they probably voted anyway thanks to the DP of MD!)...and other outstanding social programs (barf, hurl, ....)
31 posted on 04/10/2002 7:14:33 PM PDT by texson66
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To: AlaskaErik
Photo radar and red light cameras are not and never have been about safety.

So true. One of the more popular morning-drive radio talk hosts here (Rick Hamada) has been driving that point home quite well - a lot of people are crediting him with getting sufficient public awareness out there that the legislators were afraid for their jobs if they didn't repeal the cameras. In addition to "Tali-Van" sightings, whenever the topic comes up he plays the "Ka-ching" sound effect.

32 posted on 04/10/2002 7:42:29 PM PDT by Spyder
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To: texson66
Well, in the People's DemoRATik Republic of Merryland

Ah yes... how well I remember. Cops were known for sitting just inside the state line behind a bush waiting for speeders. Last time I was through there I think radar detectors were illegal, too (can't believe it's been >15 years). Is that still so?

33 posted on 04/10/2002 7:45:11 PM PDT by Spyder
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To: petuniasevan
Somehow "spicy dried clams" just doesn't do it for me. I can't picture this as having a jerky-like texture. Might as well be chewing on peppered rubber bands ;)
34 posted on 04/10/2002 8:20:33 PM PDT by general_re
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To: Spyder
Geez, I thought someone had attacked pork and beans.
35 posted on 04/10/2002 9:01:41 PM PDT by wcbtinman
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To: petuniasevan
...all your clams are belong to us.

Seriously, though. If only Florida would get rid of the red-light cams I'd be a happy man.
36 posted on 04/10/2002 9:06:10 PM PDT by =Intervention=
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To: AlaskaErik
Photo radar and red light cameras are not and never have been about safety.

Right. One key observation is that many people tend to be more safety-concious than law-concious. There will be many more people driving 40mph in a "school zone" when there are no children anywhere near the road than when there are children milling about in the street, but the few people who do it in the latter time pose a much greater danger--despite their smaller number--than the many who do in the former.

Nonetheless, guess where the enforcement efforts will go?

37 posted on 04/10/2002 10:43:29 PM PDT by supercat
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To: My2Cents
Well, at least he didn't kill Van Morrison.
38 posted on 04/10/2002 10:43:57 PM PDT by willyboyishere
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To: Spyder
I believe it's still illegal to use a radar detector in MD, DC, and VA.Another "government knows best": in Montgomery Co MD, you CANNOT order a burger medium-rare!
39 posted on 04/11/2002 4:26:17 AM PDT by texson66
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And whos money was wasted here? Tax payers of course.

What gets me is the willness of governmental bodies to fund a program, then kill it only a few months later, and nobody talks about the setup costs or losses incurred. The sheeple feels lucky to have stopped the program, but overlooks the waste of money in the first place.

This is democratic tactics to continually push up tax revenues. It's free money to them; they're gonna find new ways to spend it one way or another.

40 posted on 04/11/2002 6:58:26 AM PDT by George from New England
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