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With Budget shortfalls in many states, liberals are lookin to raise taxes. Lets give them some ideas
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Posted on 04/05/2002 5:36:23 AM PST by Phantom Lord

With many states facing budget "shortfalls" as the left likes to call them liberal politicians are calling for increases in sales taxes, income taxes, and taxing specific items such as cigarettes, soda, fatty food, bullets, etc...

Well, taking a tip from WPTF talk show host Jerry Agar (Raleigh NC) from a show he did last year I have decided to put the challenge to my fellow FReepers.

What are popular and high use items among liberals that taxes could be placed on to help eliminate these budget "shortfalls"? Liberals are all for raising taxes so surely they would like to see our ideas put into practice. So what "liberal" consumer goods could be taxed a little extra to help states with their budgets?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: budget; democrats; liberals; moremoremore; spending; taxes
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To: anniegetyourgun
Do you know any conservative Republican potheads? I don't know a one.

It's a big world. I know several, in fact, I know one who sells pot. And he's a staunch Republican, I can't even convince him to vote libertarian.

81 posted on 04/05/2002 7:12:52 AM PST by NC_Libertarian
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To: Phantom Lord
NO NEW TAXES!

GUT GOVERNMENT!


82 posted on 04/05/2002 7:17:55 AM PST by antidemocommie
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To: antidemocommie
Ya know, I will bet serious dough that if we fired 1/3rd of all federal employees tomorrow, nothing would be affected, and nobody would even notice.
83 posted on 04/05/2002 7:20:44 AM PST by conserve-it
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To: Phantom Lord
A 100% tax on any newspaper that carries Molly Ivins' column.
84 posted on 04/05/2002 7:31:09 AM PST by mushroom
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To: tcostell
Ok, I'll buy that. I like the lawyer tax too!!
85 posted on 04/05/2002 7:34:38 AM PST by conserve-it
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To: Phantom Lord
Increase taxes on the Liberals favorite retail market item:

CONDOMS.

Maybe then they'll stop giving 'em away for free, and sexual promiscuity will stop.

86 posted on 04/05/2002 7:39:01 AM PST by usconservative
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To: Clemenza
Set priorities, then cut spending on the low priority programs.

Hmmm, what are the high priority Government programs?

1. Defense.

2. ???

87 posted on 04/05/2002 7:41:15 AM PST by CJinVA
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To: vigl
How about police and courts?
88 posted on 04/05/2002 8:07:44 AM PST by Phantom Lord
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To: dubyaismypresident
Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner, we have a winner. "Bong Tax". Oh, my.

If you are not serving in a public office then you have truly missed your calling.

89 posted on 04/05/2002 8:11:33 AM PST by Billy_bob_bob
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To: Cultural Jihad
"Yes, that's a reasonable dissembled description of the scam they try to pull. They think we ought to just allow people to lie there and die in the gutters so as to teach them all a valuable and permanent lesson in the efficacy of social-Darwinism."

An interesting view of things: libertarians are culpable for being "socially darwinistic", while simultaneously discouraging personal responsibility. I'm not quite sure how that's physically possible.

In the above, your "we" makes no distinction between government and citizen. You ought to examine that a bit. Especially since compassion is not a virtue imposed by laws. Libertarians would not dissolve the Red Cross, Salvation Army, The March of Dimes, The American Cancer Society, or any of the innumerable private religious charities that do a better job of caring for the truly needy than the government does. Incidentally, such organizations hover around 78% efficiency compared to the government's 26%. And their coffers would only swell if people were allowed to keep more of their income. I think 9/11 showed that.

Don't confuse the libertarian (or constitutionalist) approach to federalism with "lack of compassion." It's the same argument the left uses against the right every day. When you engage in it, you make tacit admissions that that left is correct in its methods - with the only implied caveat being that they "go too far."

As with most of these discussions, the pivotal question lies not in what should be done, but who decides what is to be done, and how.

90 posted on 04/05/2002 8:17:32 AM PST by Mr. Bungle
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To: eagleye
"It is worth remembering that the Bush administration inherited the biggest budget surplus in U.S. history, and it has been entirely pissed away in a little over one year. This fact will not be overlooked by the Democrats and the voting public next election cycle. "

Hrm..

Government surpluses cast as public virtue.

Yep, you're a leftist.

91 posted on 04/05/2002 8:20:12 AM PST by Mr. Bungle
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To: vigl
Even defense must be cut in certain areas. We shouldn't manufacture that what isn't needed just to preserve "jobs" in the defense industry. Historically, defense contracts have been prime sources of "pork" for Senior Senators.

Nevertheless, the fundamental responsabilty of the federal government is to PROTECT the continguous states.

92 posted on 04/05/2002 8:22:56 AM PST by Clemenza
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To: Clemenza;all
Save your breath RE:eagleye.

Another hit-and-run Rat poster. He/she has been on 5 threads, posted one incindiary comment on each and then went to another thread before he/she had to defend their position like a grownup.

93 posted on 04/05/2002 8:30:27 AM PST by rohry
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To: SevenDaysInMay
I like the idea of a 99 cent poll tax on election day. Suddenly the votes would go 80% conservative as the Democrat voter base is priced out of the market.
94 posted on 04/05/2002 8:38:45 AM PST by Reeses
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To: Phantom Lord
How about police and courts?

Yes, police and courts.

How about roads and other infrastructure such as water and sewer systems? Or should those things be funded by private corporations?

The problem I have is that the bureaucrats spend our money on low priority items like Community Parks and Government buildings. And then tells us they have to raise taxes to pay for the essential services that they should be providing in the first place.

Its not that they don't know what the priorities are. Its that they know that we won't complain much if we think the higher taxes are paying for things like police protection, or fire and rescue.

95 posted on 04/05/2002 8:43:28 AM PST by CJinVA
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To: Phantom Lord
How about a tax on porn? Maybe a special tariff on anti-gun literature, or abortions. How about an immigration tax, a processing tax on criminals, a special tax on the drugs used in carrying out the death sentence, a tax on attorneys' fees which has to be paid by attorneys, or a taxon any movies produced in Hollyweird? I think a tax on the assets of any foreign government which allows illegals to invade our country would be a good start, so many thousands of dollars per each head of illegal invaders - and a special surtax if they manage to have a kid here.

Finally, how about a special alcohol consumption tax on Ted Kennedy? A hot air [production tax on Bill Clinton? A lie tax on Hillary Clinton?

96 posted on 04/05/2002 8:45:21 AM PST by ZULU
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To: NC_Libertarian
Like I said earlier, it may explain many things about the "R" party....
97 posted on 04/05/2002 9:00:51 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: eagleye
ROFL! Right, perhaps you lib/dems will elect Al Bore so we can go back to the recession the lying male slut Clinton left office with.
98 posted on 04/05/2002 9:06:45 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Clemenza
You're right about the Defense Pork. But getting the Government to stop wasting our money on things like "condoms for school kids" and "Peanut Allergy Research" is more important to me. If our only budget problems were defense related, I'd be a happy camper.
99 posted on 04/05/2002 9:12:43 AM PST by CJinVA
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To: Phantom Lord
All Sen Byrd monuments
$50.00 tax on all Sen Kennedy liqour bottles
Tax on all Sen. Toriccelli shredded documents
Tax on all the air 'evironmentalists' use
Tax on all 'self esteem' curicullums
Tax on every broken promise (i.e. Baldwin, Streisand, Salliger, Farrel, O'donnald, Cher, Roberts, Saradon, etc)
Tax on every self-congratulatory award the Hollywood elites give each other

100 posted on 04/05/2002 9:27:03 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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