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I won't be hypocritical in moving to impeach Clinton and not Bush.
1 posted on 03/30/2002 2:25:38 AM PST by In veno, veritas
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To: In veno, veritas
LOL, that's funny! Go for it.
2 posted on 03/30/2002 2:30:44 AM PST by Always Right
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To: In veno, veritas
You're a complete ass to compare Clinton to Bush in this way.
3 posted on 03/30/2002 2:30:49 AM PST by DB
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To: In veno, veritas
It's a risky game he's playing, but he may well be defending the Constitution by bringing this before the Court--assuming they strike it down and thus it presents no danger--while gaining valuable elements that will remain valid afterwards, and warding himself from the inevitable pre-election squabble over who did what to "fix" politics. Or maybe the devil made him do it.
4 posted on 03/30/2002 2:36:15 AM PST by Pistias
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To: In veno, veritas
Endangered our rights??????? We have a system of checks and balances for a reason...I am sure that if the SCOTUS finds it unconstitutional, then they will strike it down.

Furthermore, it was passed by both the House and Senate, so while it may be unconstitutional, I fail to how President Bush signing a law passed by Congress would qualify as High Crimes and Misdemeanors........

Also, I cannot recall the President every supporting McCain-Finegold, and not wanting to give the democRATS a potential campaign issue by not signing it, he may feel as though many do, that it won't survive a constitutional challenge in the Supreme Court....just my .02

5 posted on 03/30/2002 2:38:01 AM PST by BigFLPanhandleDude
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To: In veno, veritas
First don't we have to impeach the Senate and House for voting for such a bill? Then let's impeach the President. I can get behind making McCain the first to go.
6 posted on 03/30/2002 2:41:27 AM PST by Always Right
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To: In veno, veritas
Before we tie Bush to a stake and burn him over CFR, lets see what the SCOTUS does with it.

But, I'm still not very happy he signed it.

It tells me he either is a VERY good politician or a President playing a very dangerous game with my Constitutional rights.

Either way, I don't like to be played with and I don't like politicians.

After all, Clinton was impeached for lying under oath, not being a politician.

Let's keep a little perspective

9 posted on 03/30/2002 2:47:37 AM PST by Popman
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To: In veno, veritas
So who's going to impeach him? The same Congress that voted for this bill?
16 posted on 03/30/2002 3:05:29 AM PST by marvlus
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To: In veno, veritas
It's the job of the SCOTUS to determine constitutionality, and Bush knows this.
17 posted on 03/30/2002 3:08:55 AM PST by Britton J Wingfield
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To: In veno, veritas
Dumbass...
19 posted on 03/30/2002 3:42:47 AM PST by Johnny Shear
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Every President has sworn the same oath to defend the Constitution, because the oath is specified in the Constitution. Every President since James Madison has "signed an unconstitutional law."

How do we know this? We know it because since that time the Supreme Court has struck down duly passed and signed laws for violation of the Constitution in the terms of every President except Harrison, who died one month into his term.

So if your theary was correct constitutionally, we should have impeached every President except the first three and the one who died promptly after his Inauguration.

Now let's look at the practical side. The Constitution provides for impeachment in the House and trial in the Senate. Would the House, which voted by a 60% margin for CFR, then turn around and vote to impeach the President for signing that law? Obviously not. Would the Senate which voted 60% for that law, vote by a 2/3rds margin to convict? Obviously not.

So the discussion of "impeachment" of President Bush for signing Shays-Meehan is historical, constitutional and political nonsese. You may, however, like the lefties are wont to do, conduct a mock trial in your living room. Put on a black robe, get a gavel, declare your charges, and let us know how it comes out.

This issue is now going to be settled as the Constitution provides, in the Supreme Court. I agree with you that it never should have come to this. But it has. If you want to do something constructive, click below and support the attack on this law in that Court.

Congressman Billybob

Click here to fight Shays-Meehan.

Click here for latest column: "Does Anyone READ the Constitution?"

22 posted on 03/30/2002 3:46:58 AM PST by Congressman Billybob
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It has not yet been determined that the bill is unconstitutional. That determination can not be made by the President or monday Morning Freepers. The determination of unconstitutional is reserved for the courts, ultimately, the supreme court.

If you had paid attention a few years ago, you would know that there is no impeachable offense.

26 posted on 03/30/2002 3:50:26 AM PST by bert
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To: In veno, veritas
"In wine, there is truth" ?

Shirley....you jest!

Too much wine perhaps?

28 posted on 03/30/2002 4:02:42 AM PST by G.Mason
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To: In veno, veritas
Be serious.
31 posted on 03/30/2002 4:29:11 AM PST by Polonius
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Get a grip.
32 posted on 03/30/2002 4:31:37 AM PST by alnick
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To: In veno, veritas
And who put it on the table? Get a clue and get a grip. Let our courts do their job now.
34 posted on 03/30/2002 4:48:29 AM PST by snippy_about_it
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If you don't like the POLICIES of CFR politics, try addressing the real problem! Un-ELECTED non leaders comprise the CFR and Their related Ilk. Liberal ELECTED leaders then give UN-ELECTED CFR'S the ability to subvert the Constitution & The Bill Of Rights. These then become the true UNTOUCHABLES who cannot be voted out of office because they were never elected in the first place and of course you already know we refuse to deal with those who are elected to serve. We never take time to think about the problem so we must endure wallowing in the symptoms, fixing nothing! Why are you griping? Until you are willing to address this up front, you don't deserve anything better, although the COUNTRY & The Republic certainly does!
35 posted on 03/30/2002 5:00:32 AM PST by Windy-Dave
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Yes, by all means. Please start immediately. Call Larry Klayman and let's get right on it....

GRRRRRRollin'

36 posted on 03/30/2002 5:08:18 AM PST by GRRRRR
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To: In veno, veritas
Too much cawfee already dude???
38 posted on 03/30/2002 5:12:04 AM PST by Neets
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It's not about sex. Let's move on.
41 posted on 03/30/2002 5:35:45 AM PST by onedoug
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"Practice what you preach" = "You cannot reason a person out of a position he did not reason himself into in the first place."
42 posted on 03/30/2002 5:42:09 AM PST by YaYa123
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