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People are finally noticing that the Green Machine is not playing nicely, and are becoming ever more willing to say so in public. Lines are being drawn in the sand, and the environmental activist leaders are starting to panic. The little guy now has a fighting chance when they come to take his land or tell him what he is "allowed" to do on what they leave him.

It's not over by a long shot, but at least we're in with a chance now. We can thank Green Machine overconfidence, and we need to pick up the ball and run hard and fast with it.

1 posted on 03/28/2002 8:40:23 AM PST by gaelwolf
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Also the faulty spotted owl report and the Klamath sucker fish fiasko..

Since this was across state lines its a federal offence...so these greens need a stiff 5 to 10 in the slammer.

2 posted on 03/28/2002 8:45:18 AM PST by spokeshave
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So the rhetoric and proposals of the green organizations that make their living and raise their money through predictions of cataclysmic catastrophe are far divorced from reality.

The greens rely on hyperbole and outright lies to advance their agenda. In my freshman biology class in college (many many years ago) my nutball professor proclaimed that it was more than acceptable to exaggerate the dire results of pollution and our use of energy if it meant that man's impact on the environment could be curtailed. I got a big clue to this guy's warped mind when he was talking about being eaten by a tiger - "what a natural way to die, man!" Yikes!

3 posted on 03/28/2002 8:48:17 AM PST by .38sw
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To: gaelwolf; AUNTB; ERNEST AT THE BEACH; JEFF HEAD, MARSH2
More good news from the WSJ!
4 posted on 03/28/2002 8:49:54 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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5 posted on 03/28/2002 8:50:08 AM PST by Southack
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The liberal is a lying thug.
6 posted on 03/28/2002 8:51:32 AM PST by moyden
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The system is broken and can't be fixed simply because the power to regulate the use of private property is too much power. Investing in political control is certainly cheaper than buying property and can be very profitable. It is too big a temptation for the politically dominant to abet their profit interests through political payoffs. Civic management of the environment simply must die a slow death.

So, does Mr. DuPont have an alternative to political management of the environment? I do.

8 posted on 03/28/2002 8:53:54 AM PST by Carry_Okie
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More good news!

Now the WAJ is calling the enviralists liars and basically bad people!

9 posted on 03/28/2002 8:55:48 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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Even the French are beginning to come around. They still won't say anything nice about America, being miffed over the deal with Louisiana and Mexico, but at least they are not supporting the Global Warming crowd as much.
10 posted on 03/28/2002 9:18:43 AM PST by RightWhale
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Gun control and environmentalism require that the supporter of either lie.
13 posted on 03/28/2002 9:23:26 AM PST by Lazamataz
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btt
14 posted on 03/28/2002 9:28:25 AM PST by GailA
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Excellent post that needs to be BUMPED in the holy war against junk science
15 posted on 03/28/2002 9:31:47 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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17 posted on 03/28/2002 9:48:50 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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Thanks for this article. I'm bumping for a later read for my husband (and maybe to copy for my daughter to counter the propaganda she receives at school and through the media).
18 posted on 03/28/2002 9:53:41 AM PST by LibertarianLiz
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So why the lying? It seems deceit is the only way the greens can advance their Luddite agenda.

Selfishness about their own agenda?

19 posted on 03/28/2002 9:57:50 AM PST by Salvation
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Court documents showed the Forest Service had knowingly used false data on spotted-owl habitats ...

May I ask? If the spotted owl completely disappeared, would anyone notice? Wouldn't other raptors rush to fill the vacuum if the field mouse population suddenly exploded?

20 posted on 03/28/2002 9:59:41 AM PST by JoeGar
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Bump for later reading...
21 posted on 03/28/2002 10:28:34 AM PST by RedWing9
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Excellent article! A keeper for future reference. Thanks.
24 posted on 03/28/2002 11:04:55 AM PST by meyer
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But during that same period sulfur-dioxide emissions . . . have dropped by 39 percent . . .; volatile organic compounds . . . by 42 percent; carbon monoxide emissions . . . have dropped by 28 percent; and large particulate-matter emissions . . . by 75 percent." Not much of an environmental crisis in these data.

Not to rain on anyone's parade here, since I agree that cooking the data to serve the agenda is despicable, but these reductions would not have taken place without political effort to require things like scrubbers on copper smelters, catalytic converters on cars, or different fuels technology for gas turbines.

The last one is instructive. If you watch an old 707 take off, you'll see a huge trail. Watch a modern fan jet powered aircraft take off, and you'll hardly see anything. That's not an accident: it required significant changes in burner design, turbine design, and even the fuel composition.

DuPont is taking credit for things he opposed all along. While opposition may be good to moderate the demands of extremists, there's no reason conservatives can't be all for minimizing environmental impact without frivouously restraining trade. Since I've been involved with the design of machinery (like jet engines) for 20 years, I know that it can be done. If you don't believe me, compare the emissions of a 2002 Honda Accord with a 1973 Buick Skylark. And remember that in 1973 Detroit engineers were saying you couldn't build cars that get the mileage the Accord does and reduce the emissions.

So, who are the real luddites?

26 posted on 03/28/2002 11:15:09 AM PST by Regulator
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Do you support these Anti American lies and frauds by your buddies the envirals?

Does your love of critters overcome fraud and rural cleansing of your fellow Americans?

Your thesis ? on the red legged frog has the same validity of all the rest of the lies/fraud committed by the green enviral nazis from hell!

So again, do you support lies/fraud and Nazi rural cleansing of Americans for the red legged frog and other ESA critters?
38 posted on 07/03/2002 8:48:18 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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ping
47 posted on 07/03/2002 10:10:40 AM PDT by facedown
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