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Bush blocks U.N. tax plan: Henry Lamb praises president for skillful handling of global power grab
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Monday, March 25, 2002 | Henry Lamb

Posted on 03/25/2002 2:04:25 AM PST by JohnHuang2

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To: Bigg Red
Ping !
121 posted on 03/26/2002 9:24:14 AM PST by america-rules
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To: Bigg Red
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122 posted on 03/26/2002 9:24:20 AM PST by america-rules
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To: Bigg Red
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123 posted on 03/26/2002 9:24:24 AM PST by america-rules
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To: Bigg Red
Ping !
124 posted on 03/26/2002 9:24:27 AM PST by america-rules
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To: Alberta's Child
"If you eliminate all the sentimentality and look at Reagan's record objectively, you'll find that on many issues he was less conservative than Bill Clinton. "

This is true in the fact that he allowed many, many liberal bills to become law as well as breaking many campaign promises like they all do. But, you also have to add the disclaimer that all Presidents have to deal with the politics of their office and it's give and take. Too bad many here don't understand this?

125 posted on 03/26/2002 9:51:16 AM PST by america-rules
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To: Twodees
Try to focus. The debate here is not whether US foreign aid is Constitutional (which is an interesting thesis), it's if you can consider that aid a global tax. And the answer is................of course not. The monies are given freely .

As for our dues to the UN, they're just that, dues to be part of a club. No tax there, either.

126 posted on 03/26/2002 10:01:50 AM PST by A Navy Vet
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To: america-rules
...all Presidents have to deal with the politics of their office and it's give and take..

So true, unfortunately. (I'm still ticked about HR1885,though, even though I am a certified Bushbot.)

127 posted on 03/26/2002 11:21:28 AM PST by Bigg Red
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To: Alberta's Child
True enough. Reagan was a grownup who built his own life, though. Wobbly jr. will never be. I just can't work up any admiration for W. I was younger and had no access to a lot of the info that comes so cheap and easy now when Reagan was on the scene. That explains the way I viewed him while he was in office. I was working 7 12's for a lot of his second term too. Hindsight isn't as kind to him as a lot of us pretend.

There's no way to argue that W could manage Congress the way Reagan did. The tax cuts passed with Reagan there to sign them haven't been repeated. W's shell game tax cut will amount to diddly in the end, as everyone who got a refund from the IRS will find out. That $600 check comes right off the top of a refund. W will be history before any of it that amounts to much will come due and Congress will scrap it all as soon as he's back in Crawford pretending to be a rancher again.

128 posted on 03/26/2002 2:47:45 PM PST by Twodees
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To: A Navy Vet
Sorry, but the subject I raised was the constitutionality of the President promising an increase in foreign aid. If you'd rather not look at whether that's a legitimate power of the President's office, then don't presume to lecture the rest of us on what he can and can't do. He has a job description which is defined in the Constitution. We've never amended the Constitution to give the President power to hand our money over to anyone without our consent.

He is empowered to make treaties with the advice and consent of the Senate, not to tell a bunch of penniless con artists that he'll hand them $5 billion dollars. Bush doesn't have that authority unless he's talking about his own money. I doubt he has that kind of money, myself.

129 posted on 03/26/2002 2:57:23 PM PST by Twodees
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To: copycat
Bump.
130 posted on 03/26/2002 5:04:49 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Twodees
"Sorry, but the subject I raised..."

Oh, the subject you raised, not the subject of the article. ok

As for {{giving}} aid being Constitutional, I don't know, never thought about. But either way, our voluntary gifts or loans to other nations and our club dues to the UN are NOT taxes. Lecture over.

131 posted on 03/26/2002 7:09:31 PM PST by A Navy Vet
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To: JohnHuang2
With far more political acuity than critics expected

Hope I keep reading stories that start like that, particularly on NOV 7-8!

132 posted on 03/27/2002 4:59:21 PM PST by Stultis
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To: gratefulwharffratt
Let's look at the facts.

The "Millennium Challenge Account" described by George W. Bush is a new account of new money to be given gratis (i.e., not a loan) by United States taxpayers to unspecified-in-advance underdeveloped nations through the United Nations, and is on top of UN dues and other expenses already paid by the U. S.

Does anyone think a single underdeveloped nation has to demonstrate "reform" before more U. S. taxpayers' money is extracted and poured into the "Millennium Challenge Account" for the UN?

Does anyone think that the most destitute nations in Africa which do NOT reform themselves because they are run by ruthless dictators who don't care a whit for their subjects will be satisfied when they get NO MONEY from the U. S.?

Since most of the underdeveloped countries are that way because they are under lawless dictators and their plantation serfs have no experience with and no conception of democratic government, there is absolutely NO CHANCE that these nations will undergo genuine reform.

Does anyone think that all the people in the UN who hate the U. S. will be content with a "Millennium Challenge Account" set-up controlled SOLELY by the U. S.?

That, simply, is not the way the UN works.

But meanwhile the American people are being brainwashed into thinking we "have to give more money to the UN".

And all the countries that already want more formal global taxation will continue their agitation for this as strongly as ever.

133 posted on 03/27/2002 9:12:23 PM PST by Warhorse
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To: Twodees
The tax cuts passed with Reagan there to sign them haven't been repeated.

There is no way to make a valid comparison between Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush when it comes to tax cuts. Reagan was dealing with income tax rates that were very high, which meant that the government would easily generate additional revenue by cutting the top rates. When the rates are low (relatively speaking), the positive impact of cutting them (in terms of generating higher revenue) isn't so certain. It should also be noted that cutting tax rates is NOT the same as cutting taxes. The 1986 tax reform reduced the income tax rates and simplified the tax brackets, but it also included the elimination of many tax deductions. Ironically, overall personal Federal taxes (per capita, including all taxes) were probably higher when Reagan left office in 1988 than they were in 1981.

Because tax rates in the U.S. are probably close to the ideal tax rates (again, in terms of generating the maximum amount of revenue), the only real tax "reform" you will find these days amounts to nothing more than encouraging certain types of personal behavior or encouraging certain financial transactions. What do you think has driven the growth of IRAs and 401(k) plans over the last decade?

134 posted on 03/28/2002 9:18:57 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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135 posted on 03/29/2002 2:40:22 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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136 posted on 05/23/2002 7:31:20 AM PDT by Dane
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To: Alberta's Child
Ideal tax rates? My ideal tax rate, is zero. The current tax code is therefore a zillion miles away from 'ideal'.
137 posted on 05/23/2002 7:36:32 AM PDT by Bagehot
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