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BBC News - Pill increases breast cancer risk
BBC News ^ | 3-23-2002

Posted on 03/23/2002 4:46:11 PM PST by Notwithstanding

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The Pill causes cancer, but dammit, our girls should all take it because we know they are all loose whores.
1 posted on 03/23/2002 4:46:11 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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I sacrificed my right breast on the altar of Premarin in 1994. The doctors at that time ADMITTED that my history of 10 years on Enovid birth control, coupled with the use of Premarin, would be the obvious cause of the cancer. Yet, they still continue to prescribe what has to be the most heavily prescribed medication in the world.
2 posted on 03/23/2002 4:53:44 PM PST by redhead
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WOW. This came out of the BBC??!! I'm stunned, but not as stunned as I'll be when they start paying attention to the abortion studies.

I would be curious however, to see if they factored in any history of abortions with these Pill-related cancers. That could be abnormally skewing the data towards higher percentages.

3 posted on 03/23/2002 5:10:20 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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But gee whiz, certain brands of the Pill (OrthoTriCyclene) will clear up your complexion. Clear skin? Breast cancer later in life? Golly gee what a tough decision for a girl to make.

/Sarcasm. As a nurse, I was astounded that they marketed oral birth control with the ADDED benefit of being good for your complexion. What next? Chemo as the ultimate dipilatory? The drug companie$ pander to the female con$umer. SeraFem (agressively marketed at women experiencing everything from PMS to perimenopause) is Prozac in (literally) a pink package.

5 posted on 03/23/2002 5:16:39 PM PST by PennsylvaniaMom
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To: redhead
I'm so sorry to hear that. Hope you are doing okay now.

Isn't that amazing, and the doctor in the study said the same, they know all these hormones cause cancer but still encourage women to take them for the 'benefit of their health'. Incredible. To me, the other benefits can be obtained via a heart healthy lifestyle and mineral supplements without the cancer risk.

P.S. I bet that Premarin was discontinued mighty fast once you were diagnosed.

6 posted on 03/23/2002 5:18:04 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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Is the the pill that increases the risk of breast cancer, or is it not getting pregnant? They've known for a long time now that getting pregnant seems to have a protective effect on women's breasts.

I guess you could say it is a case of "use 'em or lose 'em"
7 posted on 03/23/2002 5:18:30 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
Oh yes! BUMP for you and everything you said! Absolutely true.
8 posted on 03/23/2002 5:20:05 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: redhead
My wife had a mastectomy, same side, at 31 years old. I will ask her tomorrow about the pills.
9 posted on 03/23/2002 5:26:08 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: goldenstategirl; redhead
RH, hope you are cancer free. Premarin (PRE)gnant (MAR)e ur(IN)e is heavily prescribed. When I was in nursing school I had a prof who explained to us that the urine is 'caught' in rubber bags that the mares wear continually. That they can't lay down, and that the foals are 'useless' and destroyed. She questioned aloud what the risks would be a generation away for human use of equine estrogen. I think we are all beginning to see the tip of the iceberg of 'better living thru chemistry.'
10 posted on 03/23/2002 5:31:13 PM PST by PennsylvaniaMom
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To: bookworm89;mamelukesabre
The Pill does not have a protective effect on the breast. It works by playing with the estrogen and progesterone levels in the female body. Many, but not all, breast cancers are estrogen dependent. Adding even more estrogen to a woman's body is not necessary and downright hazardous. While estrogen-replacement therapy may be needed short-term at menopause and the Pill is beneficial for certain reproductive disorders, largely it's a bad idea. Of course, this last part is my personal opinion and there are probably others out there willing to take the added risks for the benefits. I'm not.

Pregnancy has a protective effect on the breast because the process converts undifferentiated, immature breast cells into differentiated milk cells. For a really good explanation of the biology of this, see Dr. Joel Brind's website at www.abortioncancer.com

As for women having less abortions because they are on the Pill, you'd think that would be the case. I did, but I recall reading some studies (sorry can't recall where-I read a lot:) that said many women on the Pill have had abortions. Now whether they were placed on the Pill after the abortion or if it was a Pill failure, I don't know.

11 posted on 03/23/2002 5:31:31 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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The Pill is the very reason abortion is so prevalent.
Pill users get pregant all the time (failure to work as expected, failure to use it properly, etc.)
But since users of contraception consider themselves entitled to not get pregnant since they took precations, they justify abortion.

Women have been convinced that they have a right to not be pregnant, regardless of how many times they happily lift their ankles up to the sky.

12 posted on 03/23/2002 5:34:44 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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Women have been convinced that they have a right to not be pregnant, regardless of how many times they happily lift their ankles up to the sky.

Your imagery is rather perjorative, IMO. Certainly lots of married women, faithful to their husbands, use oral contraceptives.

13 posted on 03/23/2002 5:37:46 PM PST by RJCogburn
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To: goldenstategirl
So my theory "use 'em or lose 'em", seems to apply, correct?
14 posted on 03/23/2002 5:40:58 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: RJCogburn
Married women who use the Pill have been convinced that sex need not have anything to do with procreation. When nature persists and demonstrates that even "protected" sex can cause pregnancy, these happily married and faithful women still demand that they have a right to not be pregnant.

No matter who she is, the woman who engages in sex (and the men who encourage it) with the demand that procreation will not happen is abusing her sexuality. Of course others disagree. But nature seems to back me up in this regard since so many people who "take precautions" end up pregnant. No one having sex has any right to think that pregnancy is impossible. We all know better. Shame on those who pretend otherwise - and then kill the babies that inconveniently result.

The leg raising example is really about the kids in high school and college who are encouraged to get their legs in the air as early as possible.

15 posted on 03/23/2002 5:46:58 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: RJCogburn
BAck to the article - women should know about this cancer risk when making their choice to "bop without consequences" - because there actually are consequences.
17 posted on 03/23/2002 5:50:36 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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Pill users get pregant all the time (failure to work as expected, failure to use it properly, etc.)

Maybe the instructions should read:

Grasp tightly between knees and keep it that way until male departs room.

18 posted on 03/23/2002 5:51:00 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: saundra duffy
PP cancer bump
19 posted on 03/23/2002 5:51:42 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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Well I take the pill and I'm no whore. I take it because I had cancer and need the hormone replacement surgery. I spent days at a Women's Cancer Center getting educated about the pros and cons of the pill.

Although there is an increase in the risk of breast cancer, so monitoring is essential, the estrogen pill has been shown in study after study to REDUCE dramatically the risk of heart attack (up to 70% reduction), a 90% reduction in the insidence of stroke, and reduced risk of other forms of cancer, including lung cancer. And women on estrogen replacement therapy do not get Ahlzheimer disease.

So ladies, stay sane, and take your pill!!!!

20 posted on 03/23/2002 5:52:36 PM PST by LoneGreenEyeshade
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