It seems to me that the fault is with stupid school administrators that define a bread knife as one that is intended for use in harming another person.........
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To: MeeknMing
that the fault is with stupid school administrators
WRONG! the fault is with the texas state legislature..
this is a prime example of government control of local schools.
and why it should not happen.
To: MeeknMing
The fault is demonizing inanimate objects. We made weapons while I was in High School. Many people brought guns to school to hunt afterward. There were no problems with weapons. If a boy did not have a pocket knife, something was wrong with him.
This is all part of the cultural genocide that is being inflicted on rural america by urban liberal elites.
3 posted on
03/20/2002 2:18:59 AM PST by
marktwain
To: MeeknMing
This has been covered before. How do school administrators get around to thinking bread knives and nail clippers are weapons? The situation's really gotten out of hand and Zero Tolerance policies have made it possible to justify imposing extreme punishment upon innocent people for what are at most, minor offenses. That's the real outrage in America today.
To: MeeknMing
"At first, I thought [zero-tolerance] was great, because I support anything that will keep firearms and weapons out of the schools, but now I don't know," said Kimberley Moore.Here's a big part of the problem. Nobody stops to think about potential unintended consequences anymore. It's this "Do it now, deal with it later" mentality that have caused so many bad laws to be writted from kneejerk reactions.
I only hope this kid is able to put this unfortunate happening behind him and not let it screw up his life too bad. He can probably forget about going to a good college though.
5 posted on
03/20/2002 2:28:02 AM PST by
Drew68
To: MeeknMing
Their "hands are tied"? Isn't there some room for reason and discretion in cases like this? I mean, I realize you can't "profile," (heavens forfend!) but can't you look at the kid, look at the circumstances, and make a reasonable decision in a case like this?
I have a REAL hard time believing anyone would lose their job if that were to occur.
6 posted on
03/20/2002 2:37:56 AM PST by
Illbay
To: MeeknMing
The policy not only leaves little room for discussion, but also lumps "bad kids and good kids in the same group," Precisely. This lumping together would seem to be required by our Egalitarian values. Can't make those invidious distinctions! Zero tolerance also shields school administrations from lawsuits, as, these days, discretion is all to often viewed as discrimination. (In fact, a judgement call is a kind of discrimination.)
To: MeeknMing
Sounds like the school district and administrators need a good FReepin'.
Here's the phone and fax...They are public...on their website so I see nothing wrong with making them available here.
phone: 817-282-2551
Fax: 817-285-3200
Snail mail address is 1601 Brown Trail, Hurst,Texas 76054
You can go to this website for details on administrator's names and other school information.
L.D. Bell High School website
So far I haven't found their Email address, but I 'm sure they or the district has one.
Happy FReeping!
prisoner6
To: MeeknMing
zero-tolerance = zero common sense
13 posted on
03/20/2002 3:14:34 AM PST by
Mustard
To: MeeknMing
At first, I thought [zero-tolerance] was great, because I support anything that will keep firearms and weapons out of the schools, but now I don't know," said Kimberley Moore."At first I didn't think, but now I've thought, and this is madness."
To: MeeknMing
Say the local folks refuse to expell him. Let the state persue the matter. Then they will look foolish for trying to do so. Of course they apparently have the "We were only following orders" mentality that lets you off the hook
To: MeeknMing
A pickup truck? A kid could do a lot of damage with a pickup truck. A lot more than with a knife.
This is in Hurst Texas? I know Hurst Texas. The police there must be laughing their butts off.
I saw the knife on TV a minute ago. It's one of those real long serrated bread knives. It would bend in half if you tried to stab anyone. Any screw driver is much more dangerous.
This story is so "un-Texan".
To: MeeknMing
The administrators had more than ample wiggle room to keep the boy in school. The knife was designed to slice bread. They wanted to make an example of this kid. The message they wanted to send is that the wielding of their power has nothing to do with the guilt or innocence of the victim, the level of severity of the "crime", or even the sort of person the victim is.
If it were my son, I would personalize this with the administrators.
To: PhiKapMom; homeschoolmama
fyi
To: summer
fyi
To: MeeknMing
Hurst-Euless-Bedford Independent School District
Gene Buinger, Superintendent
817-283-4461 x220
23 posted on
03/20/2002 4:31:46 AM PST by
the
To: MeeknMing
district policy and the Texas Education Code prohibit a student from possessing an illegal knife, one with a blade longer than 5 and a half inches that is "designed to cut or stab another by being thrown," according to the Texas Penal Code. Looks like a box cutter would be allowed.
24 posted on
03/20/2002 4:41:10 AM PST by
knuthom
To: MeeknMing
The first point to this is that there isn't a Federal Law that covers this topic. The reason being is that the US Supreme Court over-turned the old Federal "Gun-Free School Zone" law saying that the Federal Government cannot govern state issues. No Federal Law applies here.
The second is that these are "policies" and not laws and this policy is set by each school district. So...it is up to the school district to make the call on this infraction.
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03/20/2002 5:31:51 AM PST by
Deguello
To: MeeknMing
This is unbelieveable. What is wrong with today's school administrators -- they used to do nothing and now they have this kneejerk reaction. It would be one thing if the boy had threatened someone but to have a bread knife in his pickup after moving his Grandmother and to be expelled for that is ludicrous!
What has happened to good old fashioned common sense?
To: MeeknMing
Well, this Bozo administrator have provided the perfect roadmap for getting rid of a school rival in Texas -- bring a knife to campus and slip it in the bed of said rival's pickup. Maybe even leave it on the roof of the sedan. Then tell security you saw a
KNIFE at said car.
The rival has to be kicked out of school for a year. God knows we cannot use our brains about this.
What a great way to get rid of someone competing for your girl/guy, or who might possibly edge you out of that starting position on a team -- or even as a way to dry-gulch your competitor for validictorian.
To: MeeknMing
I bet that school has an aids infested pervert posing as a teacher. Any sexual contact with that pervert is far more dangerous a bread knife in a pickup. Aids kills far more people each day/week/month/year than all the knives in America does.
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