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The sexual revolution hits junior high
USA Today ^ | 3/15/02 | Kim Painter

Posted on 03/16/2002 7:16:29 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

Edited on 04/13/2004 1:39:20 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Picture the mating rites of middle-schoolers. Perhaps you imagine hand-holding and first kisses, girls trying out eye shadow, boys sneaking a peek at vulgar men's magazines.

The list goes on. Middle schools that used to do without dress codes now must send home exhaustive inventories of forbidden garments, from tube tops to too-low hip-huggers. Schools that used to handle crude language on a case-by-case basis now must have ''no-profanity'' policies. And sexual-harassment training is a normal part of middle-school curriculum.


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KEYWORDS: juniorhigh; sasu; sex
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1 posted on 03/16/2002 7:16:29 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I think it was posted yesterday under a different title.
2 posted on 03/16/2002 7:21:51 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Thank you Baby Boomers! Your all encompassing wisdom that you espoused during the 60's not only caused Bill Clinton but led inevitably to this as well.
3 posted on 03/16/2002 7:22:18 AM PST by KantianBurke
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Any parent, after reading this stuff, who still send their kids to government schools - needs to have his or her head examined.
What more reason do you need folks?
Get your children out now, before it's too late.
4 posted on 03/16/2002 7:32:14 AM PST by ppaul
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
They don't say in the article the main reasons why these kids are having sex. Britney Spears is just the example of why they are dressing as they do, but what is making the kids do these things? Is it just the internet? I say no. Look at the sitcoms and other TV shows that the kids watch. Then what kind of movies that these kid's parents are letting them watch? I know that my sister lets her kids watch movies loaded with sex. Well, experts do say that it is better for kids to watch sex than it is to let them watch violence. Violent movies make kids more violent, but wouldn't movies with sex make kids have sex?

It all comes down to the morals of the parents. It is the beginning part of it. Then the next stop is the schools. Morals are dwindling away.

5 posted on 03/16/2002 7:34:50 AM PST by coton_lover
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
We better take back our schools to the local level or the teaching of the "garbage pit of human thought" will continue to be taught.
6 posted on 03/16/2002 7:36:11 AM PST by poet
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To: coton_lover
"Morals are dwindling away."

I feel that you are being overly optimistic.

7 posted on 03/16/2002 7:39:51 AM PST by Don Myers
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
As for oral sex, a 2000 study from the Alan Guttmacher Institute in New York caused a firestorm by suggesting that more young teens were engaging in that activity -- possibly as a way of remaining technical virgins in the age of abstinence education.

Everywhere in the article they talk about how the media images are causing teens to act out in sexual ways. Except when it comes to oral sex rates. That is from all that abstinence teaching.

It couldn't be x42's wall to wall advertising of oral sex for a year.

8 posted on 03/16/2002 7:41:31 AM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
''They'll leave the house totally OK, and when they get to school, they start disrobing.''

Well, DUH.....why don't the teachers TELL their PARENTS or do something about it?

9 posted on 03/16/2002 7:43:03 AM PST by goodnesswins
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To: coton_lover
Violent movies make kids more violent, but wouldn't movies with sex make kids have sex?

I use this example when people say that games/movies/songs don't make kids do bad stuff.

Why do they call it "Mood Music" if it wouldn't put you in the mood? If gospel music can be uplifting, if love songs make you want to hold your sweetie tight, if songs can do all that why can't they make you angry or depressed enough to hurt others or yourself?

10 posted on 03/16/2002 7:48:42 AM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
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How about teaching morality based on Christian Principles to everyone.
This would include "Everyone".
Did I mention teaching Christian Morality to "Everyone"?

11 posted on 03/16/2002 7:49:35 AM PST by Khepera
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
''I think a great deal of it is due to the media and what kids see on TV, in magazine ads, in videos. . . . It's all about being sexy.''

An excellent argument for ditching the TV and dropping subscriptions to those magazines.

Our children are still very young, but my wife and I are already doing what we can to prepare them (and ourselves) for their teenage years. One of the most important steps we have taken is to control the sounds and images we allow into the home. That means no cable TV, no network TV, no videos rated R or PG-13. (And lately, we have been avoiding recent PG movies because the standards have slipped so much.) We also bought a device that filters out bad language which is increasingly heard even in "family" movies.

We have also taken some positive steps. We have a good selection of children's videos that we have carefully pre-screened. We rent a lot of films from the 1930s through the mid-1960s. We play good music, especially classical music. (My mother-in-law is a concert pianist, so we often play her recordings of Chopin.) And we read good books.

''When you get down to what's right or wrong, popular culture is going to have an influence, but the stronger internal voice comes from you,'' she says.

That only works if you have taken the trouble to help your children develop that inner voice. From her comments (below), I have my doubts about this paricular mother.

Becher admits that setting limits and encouraging independence can be a real balancing act. When her own 13-year-old daughter dressed for a dance in a pair of ''those nasty hip-huggers'' and a short top, Becher says, she asked her to think how she'd look when ''she was waving her arms around on the dance floor.'' But she didn't make her daughter change. ''You've got to pick your battles,'' she says.

No! You do not "pick your battles. That only ensures that there will be many more battles. You must set your standards -- the clearer the better -- and insist that they be observed.

12 posted on 03/16/2002 8:04:58 AM PST by Logophile
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To: coton_lover
Actually, I'm of the sincere opinion that sexual issues forced onto a child are by-far more dangerous than violence, at least in terms of what's seen on television. There reasons are obvious. First, most people realize that violence is wrong, and that it is mere entertainment. For example, most people don't think that one man fighting many others street-style is normal, nor does many believe that driving a get-away car while jumping ramps and shooting back at the police is normal. It's mere entertainment to most people. I'm not going to say that a few individuals don't take it seriously, but in all honesty, most see it for the movie that it is. This includes children.

On the other hand, however, sexual situations are not as all encompassing in that most children cannot differentiate between it being any different than real life. Sure, some may, but sex is a part of life. They know this, for they have parents. However, the way sex is portrayed, out of marriage, etc., is what is seriously warping their minds, and what is confusing them about the issue. That is, they not only view what they see as being realistic, but they also have a distorted view; one Hollywood has dessiminated.

If it were up to me, blatant sexual scenes would be eliminated out of all Prime-Time television shows, as well as all movies directed towards Teens. However, the media is run by greed, and if it means showing degenerate stuff, they'll do it. It's absurd, and it, along with sorry parenting, is resulting in a generation of hedonistic individuals.

13 posted on 03/16/2002 9:54:20 AM PST by FreedomFriend
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To: Khepera
My "favorite" quote from the article was from the mouth of the parenting instructor who thought parents were, perhaps, worrying too much about their children and not enjoying their childhood.

It doesn't say what planet she was from, but my comment to her would be that when God blesses you with a child, it is your responsiblity to ensure that your child is raised knowing God and the difference between right and wrong.

I fear there are too many parents who think that worrying will solve or prevent a problem. No, playing an active, unselfish, positive, loving, moral role in the rearing of your child solves and prevents problems, IMHO.

14 posted on 03/16/2002 12:28:37 PM PST by EODGUY
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To: EODGUY
How can you enjoy the childhood of someone who cannot discern right from wrong. If you don't teach them then you better worry.
15 posted on 03/16/2002 12:39:45 PM PST by Khepera
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
There is no doubt in my mind that the Gramscian plan is to push sex onto the kids in order to control them (just as they have done with the adults). Sex is the substitute for religion: instead of seeking an understanding of what we are here on this planet for in this life or the next, just have sex.

The sublime irony is that the human species will thus have come full circle: from animal indulging in blind sexual urges, to sentient being aware of his/her own mortality, to a philosophical animal seeking the answer to existence, to (i hope, at least PARTIALLY sentient) animal trying to fire off a select set of neurons in the brain strictly for amusement.

It makes me extremely depressed that so many fall for the urge to have sex without asking or wondering or appreciating what force has created this fantastic apparatus called the human body, where a few neurons in the brain can so affect the behaviour of a being that is supposed to be able to reason.

16 posted on 03/16/2002 12:44:07 PM PST by chilepepper
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To: Khepera
Precisely, but I suspect the health clubs and country clubs are full of "worried" parents. They aren't worried enough to take the time to give their children the guidance they need, but they rationalize their selfishness because they have careers, social responsibilities, personal needs that need to be satisfied etc, etc, etc.

Too bad there isn't a licensing requirement to become a parent.

17 posted on 03/16/2002 12:53:50 PM PST by EODGUY
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To: EODGUY
If you're not willing to sacrifice then don't bother with kids eh? Good advice EODGUY.
18 posted on 03/16/2002 1:15:53 PM PST by Khepera
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Becher admits that setting limits and encouraging independence can be a real balancing act. When her own 13-year-old daughter dressed for a dance in a pair of ''those nasty hip-huggers'' and a short top, Becher says, she asked her to think how she'd look when ''she was waving her arms around on the dance floor.'' But she didn't make her daughter change.
''You've got to pick your battles,'' she says.

Well I want to know WHO BOUGHT THE CLOTHES for her daughter? The woman says she has to pick her battles, well what does she think is WORTH fighting for? If she doesn't want her daughter to be perceived as a slut, then she shouldn't let her DRESS like one! I am continually amazed at these parents who shrug "what can you do?" THEY ARE THE PARENTS! They have to take the lead and that means taking the heat from their kids sometimes. But GOD FORBID they should be thought of as NOT COOL! That would be the death knell for a baby boomer parent who has never grown out of being influenced by peer pressure.

19 posted on 03/16/2002 1:33:22 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
It's not off-base, it's 30 years too late.
My 1st indication that adults had no idea the rules changed was when I was 14 years old. I came down the hall at school during class change, turned the corner into the commons area, to find a girl in my class, shirt unbuttoned and held open, pants down, being petted by 5 guys, and returning the favors! How teachers could be missing this I could not imagine (there were nearly 200 teachers and students in that very public area at the time). Later, My 15 year old lab partner (different girl) was also the mother of a 1 year old toddler. This was all 1970-72.

No there is nothing new here. The sexual revoulution of the 60's was a resounding and instant success. We killed our culture for pleasure of sex, and now we can't understand why our kids are the way they are.

I'll tell you why they are the way they are. My generation never considered growing up as a goal.

It's easy for 14 year olds to act like adults, when the adults act like they are 14 years old.

20 posted on 03/17/2002 7:34:34 AM PST by M.K. Borders
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