Posted on 03/14/2002 10:25:34 AM PST by tberry
Am I 'Anti-American'?
by Joseph Sobran
Liberals used to accuse me of being an extremist radical right-wing superpatriotic cold warrior. I didnt exactly enjoy having these labels slapped on me, particularly by Mom, but at least I could understand why some people used them. They were a caricature, which is an exaggeration of real features.
Lately, though, Ive been called some unflattering names by people I used to think of as my fellow conservatives. One, a radio talk-show host, has gone so far as to call me "anti-American."
How did I go from being superpatriotic to being anti-American, or even, as some have called me, "treasonous"? I havent joined the Taliban, endorsed terrorism, waged war against the United States, taken bribes from foreign governments, or sold sensitive military secrets to Chinese or Russian spies. Wherein, then, have I offended?
Thats easy. I havent joined in the spirit of primitive patriotism that is expected of us in wartime. In fact I deny that such patriotism deserves to be honored as patriotism.
Discerning anthropologists have enumerated traits by which certain social types may be recognized. Youve seen the lists: "You may be a redneck if ..."
In the same way, I think there are traits by which we can identify an anti-American.
If, for example, you think the U.S. Government should abide by the Constitution even during wartime, you are anti-American. If you think the government should at least declare war before waging it, you are anti-American. If you deprecate a war that hurts and kills innocent people without achieving its stated goals, you are anti-American.
Thats not all. If you judge your own countrys government by the same standards that you apply to other countries governments, you are anti-American. If you think America is not immune to the sins that have often afflicted other countries, you are anti-American. If you think our government has made us enemies we dont need, you are anti-American.
If you think that even Americas "good wars" the Civil War and World War II had terribly tragic results for this country and the world, you are anti-American.
America is an extension of Western civilization, one of whose deepest principles is rationality. The Founders of the American Republic established standards, embodied in the Constitution and explained in The Federalist Papers , by which that Republic and its rulers should be judged. They didnt expect automatic submission to the government; on the contrary, they set down the grounds on which citizens should criticize the government and, if necessary, remove its officers. A true patriot would be a critic, not a serf, of the government.
This whole approach was in deliberate contrast to the principles of absolute monarchism. A loyal American could judge his government wanting, because the people, not their rulers, were sovereign. They would have no sacred ruler set over them in the name of God and claiming divine authority.
But this original sense of measure has been lost. To judge your government by its own supposed criteria the specific and limited powers named in the Constitution which our officials are sworn to uphold is disloyalty and treason. Obey, or be damned!
This reversion to primitive authoritarianism would have shocked the authors of the Constitution. But they are more alien to todays "patriotism" than the Taliban. Today they would be considered anti-American.
Those men assumed that the Constitution would be a constant rein on the Federal Government. It would be used to rebuke any attempted usurpation of power; and for a while, it was. But in times of war especially, the Constitution has proved a frail instrument. During the Civil War, as Paul Craig Roberts recently put it, Abraham Lincoln "exalted the Union above the Constitution." Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Roosevelt went much further than Lincoln. All three are now honored as "great presidents." Those who respected constitutional limitations are said to have been "weak presidents." And George W. Bush is already being praised, in some "conservative" quarters, as a "great president."
The question of constitutionality rarely comes up, except in the feeble and marginal whimpers of pseudo-constitutionalists such as the American Civil Liberties Union, which actually favors socialist-style government in most respects. No president has ever been removed for exceeding his powers. President Bush doesnt even have to worry about that.
So if you consider the ruin of a noble experiment in limited government "Americanism," just set me down as anti-American.
March 13, 2002
No, he certainly does not.
However, if you mean Congress should authorize a war (and I think this is what you mean) that is a valid point.
The Congress has seldom declared war, but has- from our earliest days- usually authorized them by various acts(eg: Quasi-war, Barbary war, Indian wars).
The Executive has the power to act in our self-defense, but that is very limited.
I see your concern for 3000 murdered Americans is overwhelming.
We will be 'nation building' in every third world hole in Asia, in short order! Yes, some must be replaced with real countries ( that Islamic Fuedal thing has to go ), but we shall never be able to spare the dead soldiers or print enough money to manage the enterprise.
Is that the subject? I thought it was whacking terrorists. Dead soldiers is an awful thing, but less awful than dead families killed when your fruitcake heroes flew planes into buildings.
Has any withdrawal from our Balken Adventureland yet been anounced? Maybe Disney will come in there to run a new vacation destination, under UN oversight, of course?
What does that have to do with September 11 and whacking terrorists?
Maybe we are going to just annex the whole damn world? I might be all for that, if Jim Rob & some guys like you & the usual crowd from FR are in that new NWO, but you know the likes of Coffee A-Ninney & Henry the K & George Soros ( & his ilk ) would really run any show we put up.
You are a raving lunatic.
Oh for Maggie Thatcher & Renaldus Magnus to again be in the saddle!!
As much as I admire Reagan, he dropped the ball on terrorism repeatedly. From Carter until now when 3000 dead Americans turned it into a problem that could not be ignored, each and every American president largely ignored the problem.
Perhaps the most pivotal point for dealing with these thugs occurred on Reagan's watch. His only effort was too little too late.
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