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Asimov had Aids!
Foxnews ^ | 3/12/02 | metacognate

Posted on 03/12/2002 4:08:25 PM PST by metacognate

Asimov book reveals he died from AIDS By JAM! Books A forthcoming posthumous autobiography of Isaac Asimov reveals that the science fiction legend's death 10 years ago was due to AIDS, according to the New York Post.

Asimov, whose works include "I, Robot," reveals in "It's Been A Good Life" that he contracted the disease via tainted blood while undergoing a 1983 heart bypass operation.

The Post said Asimov's wife, Jane, compiled the new book from essays and notes her husband left behind when he died at 72.


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To: altair
"There was no telepathy in Dune. "

Is there an echo in here?
in here?
in here?

101 posted on 03/13/2002 4:30:52 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: Dan Day
May you someday come to know even a tenth of the amount of knowledge that Asimov knew well enough to teach to millions of others. . .Your sort of transparently false cheap shot reflects far more on yourself than it does on Asimov. . .you. . .cram him into a narrow, stereotypical mental pigeonhole of your choosing. . .You remind me of the parable of the blind men attempting to describe the elephant...

QED. The signature of humanistic elitists is they always attract groupies who see intelligence as a good in itself and who become emotionally upset and engage in vicious personal attacks when someone points out that their idol is average at best.

102 posted on 03/13/2002 5:16:35 AM PST by LarryLied
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To: Xenalyte
"Dune is without doubt THE most boring series of books I've never succeeded in reading.

The first one wasn't so bad. Many series are OK at the start and degrade over time. Examples: Jack Chalker's Well of Souls novels, Philip Jose Farmer's Riverworld, and Piers Anthony's Cluster series.

Dune #1 wasn't bad. If you want an absolutely horrible series, try Mervyn Peake's Gormenghast which is completely unreadable, IMO.

--Boris

103 posted on 03/13/2002 5:25:16 AM PST by boris
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
"I agree with most of your points, but I don't recall telepathy being used in "Dune"."

Go back and read it again. Or watch the movie; both clearly include telepathic skills among the Bene Geseret and the Spacing Guild.

--Boris

104 posted on 03/13/2002 5:26:46 AM PST by boris
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To: Lazarus Long
IA was the best science writer and the second best sci-fi writer of all time (according to the terms of the Clarke-Asimov Treaty). His Understanding Physics is still the most clear and comprehensive exposition of the subject I've ever read.

I liked the story of that treaty - but thought neither of the participants had any right to assign the title of 'best science fiction writer of all time', since that's Heinlein's title - as perhaps (guessing from your screen name) you'd agree?

I'm amazed how many sci-fi buffs there are at this site! Does anyone know anything about the upcoming movie based on one of Philip K. Dick's stories, something about a world where crimes are predicted, prevented, and punished beforehand? It looks interesting but I think Tom Cruise is staring, and I can't remember the name. Also, why is it that every other sci-fi movie is based on one of Dick's stories?

105 posted on 03/13/2002 5:27:32 AM PST by JenB
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To: JenB
I'm not a big reader of sci-fi, or even plain old "fi" for that matter, but I did read Farmers in the Sky. and really enjoyed it. I love frontier history, and in that novel, he took it out a whole new door. Very cool. I have read some of his more popular and lauded titles, but that one was my personal fave.
106 posted on 03/13/2002 5:28:52 AM PST by Huck
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To: Huck
Yeah, that's a great novel, not one of my top five favorite Heinlein titles, but still I reread it every couple of years... Heinlein opened up science fiction to me when I was ten or eleven, and it's possibly nostalgia for those first few years when the wonder was so new that makes me still consider him the best. Or maybe he just is the best! Did you read/like Tunnel in the Sky? As a kid, that was my favorite; later I began to see that it was more than just a Robinson Crusoe adventure story, there was all this deeper stuff too that made it as good read as a teen as it was as a younger kid.
107 posted on 03/13/2002 5:34:18 AM PST by JenB
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To: JenB
I read Stranger in a Strange Land, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress(my second fave), and I think one other, but I can't remember.
108 posted on 03/13/2002 5:39:58 AM PST by Huck
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To: firebrand
Rememer when it was called GRID--gay-related immunodeficiency disease? Then HTLV. Can't recall what that stood for.

Human T-cell Leukemia Virus or Human T-cell Lymphotrophic Virus. At one time it was thought (along with CMV) to be a candidate for a possible cause of AIDS. But it wasn't a synonym for the condition.
Ann Dermatol Venereol 1984;111(1):11-23

[Acquired immunodeficiency syndrome, Kaposi's disease and cerebral toxoplasmosis in a young man. Review of the literature apropos of a case]

[Article in French] Janier M, Perroud AM, Revuz J, Wechsler J, Feuilhade M, Poirier J, Caron JP, Touraine R.

The immunological profile of patients presenting AIDS in Europe doesn't seem to differ from the american profile: serious cellular immunodeficiency and marked increase in the suppressor/cytotoxic cell population. As in the United States, one may suspect, among several hypotheses, that it is caused by one or several transmissible agents now present in France. The nature of these agents, transmissible by sexual contacts and blood, is not yet known: the role of the CMV is now less probable and most of the studies look for the role of other factors such as the HTLV.

109 posted on 03/13/2002 5:50:37 AM PST by aruanan
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To: savedbygrace
Its posthumous PUBLISHED autobiography.
110 posted on 03/13/2002 5:59:03 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit
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To: boris
If you want an absolutely horrible series, try Mervyn Peake's Gormenghast which is completely unreadable, IMO.

I totally forgot about that lot. About five years ago, I bought this big volume with all three novels in it; I must have picked it up 12 times, and it never drew me in like a good book does. Blech.
111 posted on 03/13/2002 6:23:41 AM PST by Xenalyte
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Instead of "posthumously published autobiography"?
112 posted on 03/13/2002 6:30:35 AM PST by savedbygrace
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To: JenB
Rocketship Galileo By Heinlein was the very first adult book I read. I love his work, but I learned more from Asimov's non-fiction work and find Larry Niven to be a better SciFi author in terms of imagination and all around quality of his work. And Ray Bradbury's prose by far is the most beautifully written of any I have read in any SciFi book.

I just found Heinlein's later work to strange, cute, and boring to bother finishing any of those books.

I don't give a hoot how Asimov died. We all die someday, and we have a degree of lack of control as to how that will occur, as he did. At least he lives on in his work.

113 posted on 03/13/2002 6:46:58 AM PST by ThreePantherEightyDuce
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To: Alissa
Are you another cowardly Democratic poster? Make your stupid hit and run. . .I've seen enough of them on Free Republic to start recognizing the MO: tonight there's been 2 others - KenPhil and A. Pole.

There's been over 15 direct replies to the poster, and not one response. Looks like a student of the MurrayMom hit-and-run school of posting.

114 posted on 03/13/2002 6:58:33 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: boris
Go back and read it again. Or watch the movie; both clearly include telepathic skills among the Bene Geseret and the Spacing Guild.

Not quite, sorry. The Bene Gesserit often (probably, only the Reverend Mothers) have the "truthsaying" ability, but the implication is that they are able to pick up on very subtle body language/verbal cues to determine whether someone is telling the truth (due to their "prana-bindu" training, perhaps? It's been a while.) They can't even use telepathy with each other; instead, they've developed a subtle sign language and, probably, lip reading ability; why would they have needed sign language if they were telepathic? When they need to communicate with someone more directly/urgently and/or brainwash/control them, they use The Voice. But that's obviously vocal, not telepathic.

The Navigators of the Spacing Guild are mutated spice addicts, barely even human, whose use of the drug allows them to see through the fabric of space-time.

Neither ability can be accurately described as "telepathy".

In particular, if you got this impression from the film, it could be because David Lynch took the weird approach of having us hear all (or lots, anyway) of the characters' internal monologues from the book, overdubbed by all the actors in faux British accented whispers. But these were just internal monologues meant for the audience, not telepathy meant for the other characters.

On the other hand, later in the series (God Emperor) I do believe that Paul's son, Leto II "The Tyrant", has an ability more approaching telepathy. I forget what it was called, something like "second sight" or "other vision". He can "see" where people are and what they are doing, which helps him maintain control over his empire (and, which is the reason that, even later in the series, the invention of "no-ships" and "no-rooms" was necessary).

On the other hand I still don't think even Leto II could read minds or communicate telepathically. He had all those Duncan Idahos after all, half of whom would try to kill him, but he never knew exactly when....

(I should probably stop before I let loose some actual spoilers. Or reveal what a nerd I am :)

115 posted on 03/13/2002 7:19:10 AM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: boris
If you want an absolutely horrible series, try Mervyn Peake's Gormenghast which is completely unreadable, IMO.

To each his own. I consider it one of the great literary achievements of the 20th century.

The crumbs blow free down the pointless sea
And are thrown to the hake above,
And the tropical air vibrates the the drone
Of a cake in the throes of love.

116 posted on 03/13/2002 7:23:56 AM PST by Physicist
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To: JenB
why is it that every other sci-fi movie is based on one of Dick's stories?

Wall Street Journal article on movie adaptations of PKD's work:

http://www.philipkdick.com/articles/wallst.htm

117 posted on 03/13/2002 7:32:51 AM PST by LarryLied
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To: Dr. Frank
The Emperor tells his "truthsayer" just before the meeting with the Navigator that he "will need telepathy." The Navigator has her removed from the room.

After the Nav's departure, the Emperor asks her what he was thinking of and she replies something like, "his thoughts are unclear; they think in different ways," or words to that effect.

Later, facing Alia, she hisses, "Get out of my mind!"

There are numerous other allusions to telepathy throughout.

--Boris

118 posted on 03/13/2002 7:39:56 AM PST by boris
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