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JOE KLEIN STRIKES OUT...AGAIN
3-11-02 | Mia T

Posted on 03/11/2002 11:18:52 AM PST by Mia T

 

JOE KLEIN STRIKES OUT. . . AGAIN

 

by Mia T, Mar. 11, 2002

 

 

 

 

Cill clinton is not Jack Stanton and bill clinton is not a "natural...[political] talent," -- "squandered" or otherwise -- post-9/11 apologist holdout, Joe Klein, notwithstanding.

The flawed central premise of Joe Klein's current clinton hagiography, "The Natural," is really nothing more than a convoluted retread of hillary clinton's pernicious "compartmentalization" spin -- that a proven felon and utter reprobate can remain president, that clinton can be a failed human being but a good president -- mythology designed to save her zipper-hoisted, W•I•D•E•B•O•D•Y, low-center-of-gravity self by saving her rapist husband.

If nothing else, 9/11 debunks that myth.

By buying into the clintons' pernicious "compartmentalization" spin, Joe Klein makes the same error made by The New York Times when it endorsed the first clinton a second time (and the second clinton the first time)...the same error made by the feminists when they supported a sexual predator and his complicit,zipper-hoisted partner... the same error made by Doris Kearns Goodwin and those 400 other hog-and-bow tied-save-clinton, retrograde-obsessing historiographers who got all unhinged over the impeachment of clinton, claiming that it would "leave the presidency permanently disfigured and diminished, at the mercy as never before of the caprices of any Congress"... even as they dismissed the real and present--and future!! -- danger to the presidency and the country of not impeaching and removing this admittedly unfit (Goodwin), "documentably dysfunctional" (NYT), presidency-diminishing (Goodwin), power-abusing, psychopathic thug.

That Joe Klein still thinks he can, post-9/11, credibly argue that clinton ran "a serious, disciplined, responsible presidency" is testament to leftist self-delusion, indeed, to the left's utter unfitness for office.



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1 posted on 03/11/2002 11:18:52 AM PST by Mia T
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The Real Danger of a Presidential Fake:
Post-9/11 Reconsideration of The Placebo President
by Mia T, 1.06.02
 
In May, 1996, American diplomats were informed in a Sudanese government fax that Bin Laden was about to be expelled -- giving Washington another chance to seize him. The decision not to do so went to the very top of the White House, according to former administration sources.

They say that the clear focus of American policy was to discourage the state sponsorship of terrorism. So persuading Khartoum to expel Bin Laden was in itself counted as a clear victory. The administration was "delighted".

Bin Laden took off from Khartoum on May 18 in a chartered C-130 plane with 150 of his followers, including his wives. He was bound for Jalalabad in eastern Afghanistan. On the way the plane refuelled in the Gulf state of Qatar, which has friendly relations with Washington, but he was allowed to proceed unhindered.

Barely a month later, on June 25, a 5,000lb truck bomb ripped apart the front of Khobar Towers, a US military housing complex in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia. The explosion killed 19 American servicemen. Bin Laden was immediately suspected...

US missed three chances to seize Bin Laden

Just look around this chamber. We have members from virtually every racial, ethnic, and religious background. And America is stronger for it. But as we have seen, these differences all too often spark hatred and division, even here at home. . . This is not the American way. We must draw the line. Without delay, we must pass the Hate Crimes Prevention Act and the Employment Non-Discrimination Act. And we should reauthorize the Violence Against Women Act.

bill clinton, State of Union Speech, January 27, 2000

"I'm sorry, but the president is one of the crudest men I have ever encountered in government service," says one female agent. "He has no respect for women."

Among the comments clinton made in presence of Secret Service agents:

. Frequent speculation on the oral sex skills of women
the president saw or met in receiving lines;

. References to the size of a woman's breasts, legs or figure;

. Sexual jokes.

After the Monica Lewinsky story broke, however, clinton toned down his rhetoric and behavior in front of his Secret Service agents, but those who guarded the president say enough of them saw and heard things which could be damaging to clinton.

"It depends on who Ken Starr calls," says one ex-agent. "The people who are on the job today are not necessarily the ones who know the most."

Turnover In clinton's Secret Service Detail 'Highest That Anyone Can Remember'

In the months that follow, reporters drop the issue. Feminists say little or nothing. Rape crisis center workers acknowledge that Broaddrick's case, including her reluctance to come forward, is typical of victims of sexual assault. But they decline to speak against clinton. Some cite the federal funding they receive as a result of the Violence Against Women Act, which was signed into law by clinton.

Why does the press continue to ignore the Juanita Broaddrick story?

 
 
The Placebo President:
How a Rapist can be a Policy Feminist
 
placebo effect n.
A beneficial effect in a patient following a particular treatment
that arises from the patient's expectations concerning
the treatment rather than from the treatment itself.
 
Every woman adores a Fascist,
The boot in the face, the brute
Brute heart of a brute like you.
----Sylvia Plath
 
The placebo effect immediately came to mind
as I listened to Shelby Steele,
a research fellow at the Hoover Institution,
debunk the following pernicious spin intended to save clinton.
To wit:
A proven felon and utter reprobate can remain president;
clinton can be a failed human being but a good president.
 
The error in these statements arises, says Steele,
from the belief that
virtuousness is separate from personal responsibility
so that one's virtuousness as an individual is determined by
one's political positions on issues rather than on
whether or not in one's personal life there is a
consistency and a responsibility.
 
Steele's contention is that this compartmentalization,
rather than being the amazing advantage
the clintons would have us believe,
in fact, spills toxicity into, corrupts, the culture.
 
If mere identification with good policies is what makes one virtuous
then those policies become, what Steele calls, iconographic,
that is to say they just represent virtuousness.
They don't necessarily do virtuous things.
 
If clinton's semantic parsing strips meaning from our words,
clinton's iconographic policies strip meaning from our society,
systematically deconstructing our society as a democracy. . .
 
I would take Shelby Steele's thesis one step further.
I maintain that iconographic policy functions like a placebo,
producing a real, physiological and social effects.
 
The placebo effect is, after all, the brain's triumph over reality.
Expectation alone can produce powerful physiological results.
The placebo effect was, at one time, an evolutionary advantage:
act now, think later
 
bill clinton is the paradigmatic Placebo President.
Placebo is Latin for "I shall please."
And please he does
doling out sham treatments, iconographs, with abandon.
To please, to placate, to numb, to deflect.
Ultimately to showcase his imagined virtue.
Or to confute his genuine vice.
 
clinton will dispense sugar pills (or bombs)
at the drop of a high-heeled shoe...
or at the hint of high treason...
 
clinton's charlatanry mimics that of primitive medicine.
Through the 1940s, doctors had little effective medicine to offer
so they deliberately attempted to induce the placebo response.
 
The efficaciousness of today's medicines
does not diminish the power of the placebo.
A recent review of placebo-controlled studies
found that placebos and genuine treatments
are often equally effective.
If you expect to get better, you will.
 
Which brings me back to the original question:
Can clinton be a failed human being but a good president?
 
Clearly he cannot.
These two propositions are mutually exclusive.
clinton's fundamental failure is a complete lack of integrity.
He has violated his covenant with the American people.
 
Because clinton has destroyed his moral authority as a leader,
he can no longer function even as a quack;
the placebo effect is gone.
And so the Placebo President must now go, too.
 
 

2 posted on 03/11/2002 11:23:06 AM PST by Mia T
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To: Mia T
Come on, tell us what you REALLY think.

Nice review!

3 posted on 03/11/2002 11:23:41 AM PST by Viet Vet in Augusta GA
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To: Gail Wynand; looscannon; Lonesome in Massachussets; river rat; Freedom'sWorthIt; IVote2; Slyfox...
 

 

 

by Mia T

 
Not Joe Klein's Primary Colors. And not Jack Stanton.
bill clinton is straight out of
Stanley Kubrick's A CLOCKWORK ORANGE.
 
clinton is Alex,
one of the few truly amoral characters in either film or literature;
not quite as Kubrick (or Burgess) had imagined him, however,
but rumpled, wrinkled, paunchy, edematous,
stripped of the youth-excuse
after 30 additional, pathetic, recidivistic years
of marauding, stomping, raping, gangbanging, deceiving and destroying.
 
Like A CLOCKWORK ORANGE, the story of bill clinton
is the story about a society that has lost its capacity for moral choice.
But unlike in the less fabulous and no more ironic fable,
clinton is not mere nascent symbol but nihilistic agent.
 
clinton, like Alex, is the leader of the gang, the "droogies."
Eerily prefigured by the rocking, crooked phallus,
clinton's a conscienceless sadist
who thrills at risk and gratuitous destruction,
whose sexual and non-sexual impotence
is at the root of his obsession with "the old inout."
 
When Alex kills a woman during a rape, Alex is sent to prison.
When clinton rapes women, girls, his country and God knows what else. . .
and kills? --- check out those fourscore-plus deaths, please!
And don't forget the wag-the-dog, desperately-seeking-a-legacy bombings,
or the cold-blooded Ricky Ray Rector execution---
not clinton but society is imprisoned,
imprisoned in clinton's
besmirched, semen-stained, feckless presidency.
 
A risible and repulsive result;
yet not even the punch line.
 
While Alex is conditioned in prison with aversion therapy,
transmuted into a moral robot who becomes nauseated
by the mere thought of sex and violence,
bill clinton and his Thought Police,
in a perverse reverse aversion,
have conditioned society's collective brain
into not mere acquiescence but twisted admiration.
 
In the end,
if clinton's arrogant, ruthless, reckless nature is restored to him,
it seems the joke will be on all of us,
for it will be a victory for infinite victimhood and irresponsibility,
for seduction, for violence, for nihilism, for anarchy.
 
We will have set apart clinton as the hero
by making his victims less human than he;
we will have allowed clinton to carefully estrange us from his victims
so that we can enjoy the rapes and the beatings
as much as clinton himself does.
 

 


4 posted on 03/11/2002 11:25:40 AM PST by Mia T
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To: Mia T
Primary Colors was one of the most important books I ever read.

It taught me unequivically that the political class not only *believes* the polity is stoopid, but actually is heavily dependent upon that stoopidity.

The roman a clef portraits of the Cuomos and Dinkins are also priceless.

5 posted on 03/11/2002 11:28:48 AM PST by NativeNewYorker
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To: Mia T
Primary Colors was one of the most important books I ever read.

It taught me unequivically that the political class not only *believes* the polity is stoopid, but actually is heavily dependent upon that stoopidity.

The roman a clef portraits of the Cuomos and Dinkins are also priceless.

6 posted on 03/11/2002 11:28:48 AM PST by NativeNewYorker
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To: Mia T
hahahahahahahahaha... misunderstood---???
7 posted on 03/11/2002 11:41:26 AM PST by f.Christian
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To: Mia T
What 'misunderstood presidency'?
8 posted on 03/11/2002 11:52:09 AM PST by Slyfox
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To: Mia T
It is hard to believe that Klein would write a book praising Clinton after all he saw up close and personal and all the damage to his reputation he suffered by associating his name with the man.

Some people are constitutionally incapable of admitting they were wrong. Klein quite clearly is one of them.

9 posted on 03/11/2002 12:07:29 PM PST by beckett
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To: Mia T
Another grandslam, MiaT!

This summary: "Like A CLOCKWORK ORANGE, the story of bill clinton is the story about a society that has lost its capacity for moral choice."

Is so true it is chilling....and more frightening actually than the attacks on America by the terrorists.

Without the capacity for moral choice - especially among the power elite - there is really very little hope for this country.

However, like Elijah - who thought all was lost - God still has his people in this country! And many of them have found their voice of outrage here on FR. Yours, MiaT is a godgiven voice of outrage and repudiation of all that was and is "Clinton" - and of those who can still choose to support him/her such as Joe Klein.

10 posted on 03/11/2002 12:30:26 PM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Mia T
A bump so I can locate this and add it to the next update of "tales from the Dark Underbelly of the Beast."

Klein is a spearcarrier in the lame & pathetic legions the clintons have left behind them... used, abused, discarded, yet still carrying water for the corrupt duo from Arkansas.

Their cousins can still be found in the press and entertainment media, whining "If only...." or "but, but..." still unable or unwilling to acknowledge their shameful enablance of the most fraudulent, most corrupt, most outright criminal Administration in America's history.

Having invested far too much of themselves in the clinton's feloneous rise to power ( and ultimate irrelevance.... ) they are forever incapable of seeing their own culpability, or the vast damage that has been done to this fine country.

I cannot even feel pity for them- my dog has more character.

11 posted on 03/11/2002 1:00:19 PM PST by backhoe
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To: backhoe; all
Q ERTY2 "There isn't a shred of evidence."

HILLARY, YOU KNOW, KnowNothing Victim Q ERTY4 double bagel,

W I D E B O D Y. low-center-of-gravity Dim Bulb, Congenital Bottom Feeder

Q ERTY3 zipper-hoisted

Q ERTY6 utter failure

rodham/clinton reality-check BUMP!

it won't s-p-i-n
 
Fraudulent Democrat Scheme Fails as Bush Soars
BUSH: NATIONAL SECURITY 1st PRIORITY. . ."I will not wait on events, while dangers gather."
THE CLINTON LEGACY PLACED IN STARK RELIEF
 
The Real Danger of a Presidential Fake:
Post-9/11 Reconsideration of The Placebo President
 
CLINTON-WAS-AN-UTTER-FAILURE Containment Team Scheme Fails Again
Ollie North Laughs Ann Lewis Off Stage
 
Helen Thomas Syndrome: THE SYMPTOMS
 
Will Riefenstahl-esque "editing to perfection" resurrect the clintons?
 
WHOSE DOG WAS WAGGED?
 
Frankenstein, The Sequel:
'Black Hawk Down' Was Set to Blame Clinton for 9/11
 
hillary clinton, Congenital Bottom Feeder, Cowers Below Network Radar,
Continues to Subsist on Cozy Clintonoid Interviews of Colmes Kind
 
hillary's head revisited:
hillary clinton's brain (such as it is) II
 
Buddy Death Report Raises More Questions Than It Answers
 
"The Daschle Scheme"
 
THE HILLARY, YOU KNOW, CLINTON TRANSCRIPT:
Analyzed and Annotated
 
See also:
 
Can the President Think?
 
THE MYTH OF HILLARY'S BRILLIANCE
 
Mindless rhinestone-studded-and-tented kleptocracy
 
OFF THE RECORD: AN OLD DOG NEEDS NEW TRICKS
 
The man is an artist: He's not just 'Slick Willie' anymore
 
Hey, what a party!
New Year's at the White House
 
Senator Dim Bulb by Gary Aldrich © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com
Annotated by Mia T
 

12 posted on 03/11/2002 1:31:54 PM PST by Mia T
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To: Mia T
bttt
13 posted on 03/11/2002 2:10:18 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: Mia T
Another great one!
14 posted on 03/11/2002 2:54:30 PM PST by aculeus
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To: all

That Joe Klein still thinks he can, post-9/11, credibly argue that clinton ran "a serious, disciplined, responsible presidency" is testament to leftist self-delusion, indeed, to the left's utter unfitness for office.

JOE KLEIN STRIKES OUT. . . AGAIN

 
IT IS OBVIOUS

By Mia T, 3-3-02

 

It is obvious to anyone who bothers to remove his political blinders. It is so patently obvious that even those whose political blinders are a permanently fixed fashion statement -- that is to say, even Hollywood -- can see it. (Just ask Whoopie Goldberg...) Bush's poll numbers are a reflection of this self-evident truth.

What is manifestly obvious and confirmed on a daily basis is the plain fact that Democrats are, by definition, constitutionally unfit to navigate the ship of state through these troubled, terrorist waters. Democrats were unfit pre-9/11, but few could see it then. It was 9/11 and its aftermath that made this truth crystal clear even to the most simpleminded among us.

The unwashed masses, the uninformed, the disinformed can see it now. All America can see it now. Self-preservation is kicking in, trumping petty politics at every turn.

And this is why Democrat demagoguery and stupidity and sedition are achieving new lows...

We are witnessing the last gasp of a political relic. The Democrat party is not merely obsolete. As 9/11 and clinton-clinton-Daschle action and inaction have demonstrated, the Democrat party is very dangerous.

We must now make sure that this fact, too, is obvious to all...


15 posted on 03/11/2002 4:11:53 PM PST by Mia T
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To: Mia T
Wow! Great stuff. Thanks, Mia T.
16 posted on 03/11/2002 4:36:57 PM PST by FryingPan101
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To: Mia T
thanks for the ping Mia
17 posted on 03/12/2002 4:42:16 PM PST by Mr. K
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To: Mia T
So on point. More material awaits you, you may know, about the Clinton brothers pardon efforts at WND
18 posted on 03/12/2002 10:47:01 PM PST by boltfromblue
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To: boltfromblue
...and the liberal LAT:

KNOWNOTHING VICTIMS RODHAM/CLINTON REVISITED

With President Clinton's encouragement, his half-brother, Roger, collected hundreds of thousands of dollars to lobby on behalf of as many as 13 people seeking presidential pardons and other favors, a key congressional panel has found. <snip>
 
The probe concluded that the former president and his administration repeatedly failed to properly check the backgrounds of people seeking pardons and <snip> permitted a culture that provided easy opportunities for relatives and close associates of the president to make money on the side by lobbying for clemency and other presidential favors for convicted felons...[R]equests bypassed the normal Justice Department review system and instead went directly to the Oval Office <snip>.
 
Roger Clinton could not be reached for comment. Bill Clinton has denied that pardons were for sale.<snip>
 
Congressional investigators found that the president's brother-in-law Hugh Rodham... suggested that former First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton was also behind the commutation.<snip>
 
In addition <snip> Rodham, despite his public statements to the contrary, has returned less than one-fourth of the $204,000 fee that he said he had given back to the Vignali family.
 
The committee also determined that President Clinton granted a pardon to fugitive financier Marc Rich only after his sponsor, former White House Counsel Jack Quinn, went around the Justice Department. Quinn apparently did so on the advice of then-Deputy Atty. Gen. Eric H. Holder Jr., who was hoping to be elevated to attorney general if Al Gore was elected president, the report found. <snip>
 
 

Roger Clinton Said to Be Deeply Tied to Pardons

Politics: House reform panel says ex-president encouraged his brother.

Q ERTY2 "There isn't a shred of evidence."

HILLARY, YOU KNOW, KnowNothing Victim Q ERTY4 double bagel,

W I D E B O D Y. low-center-of-gravity Dim Bulb, Congenital Bottom Feeder

Q ERTY3 zipper-hoisted

Humpty Dummies Q ERTY6 utter failure

rodham-clinton reality-check BUMP!

Thou art arm'd that hath thy crook'd schemers straight.
Cudgel thy brains no more, the clinton plots are great.

Mia T, On Neutered and Neutering,

by Mia T and Edward Zehr (EZ)

"I did not have any involvement in the pardons that were granted or not granted," insisted Sen. KnowNothing, seeming to forget her presence at the New-Square/Oval-Office schmooze that secured pardons for the four Hasidic felons who set up a phony school in Brooklyn to swindle the government out of millions intended for the poor.

Mia T, Sen. KnowNothing Victim Clinton Effectively Pleads 5TH in Press Conference by Invoking Spousal Privilege

HEY, HEY MARY JO!
 
by Mia T
 
So many pardons 4 sale.
 
So many rodhams & clintons to nail.
 
Hey, hey Mary Jo!
 
Can you spell R-I-C-O?


19 posted on 03/13/2002 4:12:53 AM PST by Mia T
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To: Mia T
I just caught the end of an interview of Joke Klein on Comedy Central (his name was a typo, but I decided to keep it). Couldn't believe it, Jon Stewart was being somewhat critical and Klein was defending Clinton.
20 posted on 03/13/2002 7:29:10 PM PST by Amore
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