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U.S. Chopper Loaded With Troops Shotdown in E. Afghanistan
MSNBC Breaking Live

Posted on 03/04/2002 4:12:08 AM PST by RCW2001

MSNBC reporting unknown casualties, CNN reporting multiple casualties... Developing...


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To: RCW2001
Daschole wants details of U.S. war plans
41 posted on 03/04/2002 4:46:51 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: RCW2001
Good coverage happening now on MSNBC...after the commercial break.
42 posted on 03/04/2002 4:48:00 AM PST by RCW2001
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To: section9
This is no Vietnam.

But tell that to the left wing politicians come election time. They cut throats when they think there's a chance they may be out of power.

43 posted on 03/04/2002 4:48:34 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: elfman2
I expect you'll have a real long life here…

I don't think this is this newbie's first go-round at FR. The only thing left is to figure out what screenname he used before he was banned.

44 posted on 03/04/2002 4:49:12 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: section9
If someone was bringing Chinooks up to the line of contact, that someone should be court martialed. Those damn things are not maneuverable. They're Stinger-bait, and they shouldn't be near the front line.

Not exactly true. Chinooks are used in deep artillery raids and the 160th (Nightstalkers) put them to good use in their ops. A good pilot can make that aircraft do amazing things, plus it is equipped with flare dispensers to throw heat-seekers off track, plus it also has other self-defense equipment. It's a good aircraft, but it also takes a good pilot.

45 posted on 03/04/2002 4:49:35 AM PST by ladtx
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To: RCW2001
Ditto for the MSNBC website...
46 posted on 03/04/2002 4:52:09 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: RCW2001
URL: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2002/03/04/national0849EST0518.DTL

(03-04) 05:49 PST (AP) -- The incident came as the largest coalition force assembled so far in the campaign -- some 1,500 from America, Afghanistan and at least six other nations -- engaged an estimated several hundred al-Qaida and Taliban in intense firefights backed by air strikes.

Before the downing of the helicopter, the casualty toll of the operation started Friday stood at one American and three Afghans killed and an undisclosed number injured.

That raised to 20 the number of American military personnel who have died since the campaign began. The most deadly incident came Jan. 9 when six Marines were killed in the crash of a tanker plane into a mountain in Pakistan.

In the latest fighting, U.S. Chinook helicopters were ferrying in supplies to American and other troops in the hills following the start of the coalition ground attack in the area. In addition to allied Afghan fighters and U.S. Special Forces, troops from Australia, Canada, Denmark, France, Germany and Norway were participating.

The assault was believed to be the largest joint U.S.-Afghan military operation of the 5-month-old terrorism war. Pro-U.S. Afghan troops approached the hide-outs from three directions to isolate the fighters and prevent them from escaping.

Safi Ullah, a member of the Gardez town council, or shura, said the first stage of the offensive was designed to cut the road from Shah-e-Kot to trap al-Qaida and Taliban forces in the mountains. He said the plan also involved setting up checkpoints to prevent them from getting out.

Pakistan has closed its border with eastern Afghanistan and deployed extra army units and members of the Khasadar tribal militia to catch any who try to cross the frontier and filter into its Northwest Frontier Province.

 

47 posted on 03/04/2002 4:54:43 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: RCW2001
It is sad, but to be expected. This is the price we must pay in order to FIGHT THE BATTLE OURSELVES.

The Afgan's CAN NOT BE TRUSTED. We were fooled once, thinking we could let them do our fighting for us and they LET Bin Ladden and Omar escape, because they were paid to do so.

We will NOT make the same mistake twice.

May God bless our troops as they gallantly fight in order to keep us safe.

Dr. S

48 posted on 03/04/2002 4:56:00 AM PST by Jmouse007
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To: ladtx

I suppose that I'm biased in favor of the lighter Blackhawk platform. Of course, a Blackhawk can't tote around a decent-sized artillery piece, I suppose (of course, B's can haul around the small stuff).

But you're right. A good pilot can work wonders.

Chris

49 posted on 03/04/2002 4:56:04 AM PST by section9
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To: livius
Very True. These bastards that are fighting against us were probably former captives; let free by our Paki. & Afghan allies(??).
50 posted on 03/04/2002 4:56:10 AM PST by undergroundwarrior
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To: RCW2001
May God bless our heros' families and look after them through these sacrifices. I am deeply sorry. These are more victims of 9-11.
51 posted on 03/04/2002 4:56:34 AM PST by FreeAtlanta
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To: section9
I had a thought last night.

Can you imagine a headline like this?

Heavy Fighting on Guadalcanal

Marine Casualties Mounting; American Opinion Polls Call for Pullback and Reassessment - President Consults Senate Leader


52 posted on 03/04/2002 4:57:28 AM PST by Illbay
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To: Illbay
Monday, March 04, 2002

SURMAD, Afghanistan  — A U.S. Chinook troop transport helicopter was shot down by enemy fire Monday afternoon in eastern Afghanistan, incurring multiple fatalities, Pentagon sources said. 

The helicopter was moving troops during the largest battle of the Afghan war, as 1,500 American, Afghan and allied Western troops continued their assault upon several hundred heavily armed Taliban and Al Qaeda fighters holed up in the caves of Paktia province. 

53 posted on 03/04/2002 5:00:17 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Ok, but how many terrorist are dead. Our men and women are not dying in vain. They are securing safety and freedom for America's children and the world.
54 posted on 03/04/2002 5:01:35 AM PST by FreeAtlanta
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To: Illbay
DASHLE COMPLAINS ABOUT TROOPS IN HARMS WAY, QUESTIONS WORTH OF USING AMERICAN TROOPS WHEN CHILDREN'S PROGRAMS ARE BEING SLAUGHTERED BY BUDGET IMPASSE
55 posted on 03/04/2002 5:01:53 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: FreeAtlanta
I doubt seriously that any of our women are being killed.
56 posted on 03/04/2002 5:02:38 AM PST by Illbay
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To: Severa
Some good friends of mine are submariners. It's a tough duty that requires a special kind of man. A salute for you and your husband, all the men he serves with, and all the family members they have at home.

Congressman Billybob

New column: "The Un-Music Man." Y'all will like this one.

57 posted on 03/04/2002 5:04:44 AM PST by Congressman Billybob
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To: FreeAtlanta
May God bless our heros' families and look after them

Yep. They did it to save us. "There is no greater love than for a man to give his life to save another."

58 posted on 03/04/2002 5:04:50 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: FreeAtlanta
MSNBC reporter in the area says sky looks like california freeway today.
59 posted on 03/04/2002 5:05:10 AM PST by McGruff
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To: section9
This is total war. Something the Eurotrash fail to understand. Of course, with the exception of our Brit and Canadian comrades in arms, none of those people are going to have have telegrams delivered to newly minted Gold Star mothers.

Sadly, at Brooklyn College, the same appelation could be made...and it's not five mikes from ground zero. God Bless the fallen decendants of the Bastogne legacy and may he comfort the famlies of those who are, even now, getting the bad news.

For the rest of us, may it steel our resolve to see this through and make terrorism as dead as communism and facism before it.

60 posted on 03/04/2002 5:05:36 AM PST by Braak
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