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Research Group Warns Schools of Homosexual Propaganda
CNSNews.com ^ | 2/22/02 | Lawrence Morahan

Posted on 02/22/2002 2:35:45 AM PST by kattracks

CNSNews.com) - Schools should let their students know that the differences between the homosexual and heterosexual cultures are many and profound, contrary to assertions by homosexual advocacy groups who seek to portray homosexuality as something innate and essentially without risk, a leading psychological group said.

Indeed, a same-sex male couple rarely stays together if the partners are not open to permitting each other to have outside sexual contacts, the National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH) said in a recent mailing to 15,300 public school superintendents around the United States.

The mailing "seeks to correct the misinformation that is being promoted by these homosexual advocacy groups that have an incredible influence on the public education system," said Dr. Joseph Nicolosi, president of NARTH and a proponent of reparative therapy for homosexuals who want to change.

"What we're trying to say to school supervisors is, 'don't just rely on pro-gay information sources to make your decisions.' All our stuff is well grounded scientifically," he said. NARTH is a non-religious scientific organization whose 1,000 members include psychologists, psychiatrists and therapists.

Homosexual advocacy groups, however, denounced the mailing as a misinformation campaign that will destroy families and hurt children.

"It hurts families," said Wayne Besen, a spokesman for the Human Rights Campaign. "It keeps families separated, it confuses people who need to accept themselves, and it promotes misinformation and outdated theories that are against what every leading medical and mental health organization in the nation says."

The mailing goes out to the same school officials who were targeted in 1999 with a pamphlet entitled "Just the Facts," written by a coalition that included the American Psychological Association (APA).

The APA pamphlet encouraged schools not to inform students that therapy exists to diminish homosexuality and not to refer such students to counselors who will reflect their own family's deeply held values.

"NARTH was so incensed by the misinformation and untruths provided in the APA pamphlet that it immediately took on the task of raising the necessary funds required to compile, print and distribute" the mailing, Nicolosi said.

"Homosexual advocacy groups have been masterful in their ability to reframe what is essentially a health issue to a human rights issue, and when you talk human rights, everyone gets paranoid," he said.

"When you introduce the possibility of change, you introduce the possibility of freedom to choose, and when you do that, you undermine the foundation of the gay agenda," he added.

Homosexual high school students were more likely than non-homosexual students to have engaged in high health risk behaviors, including alcohol, cocaine and inhalant use.

By the age of 30, some 30 percent of homosexual men will be HIV positive or dead of AIDS; by the age of 50, about 50 percent of homosexual men will be HIV-positive, NARTH said.

NARTH estimates the homosexual population in the United States to be between 2 percent and 2.5 percent. Nicolosi said it was difficult to estimate the number of ex-homosexuals, people who once considered themselves homosexual and changed their orientation through reparative therapy and are now leading lives as heterosexuals.

"These are people who still are ashamed to come forward because our society doesn't understand or appreciate their struggle," he said. Ex-homosexuals should be encouraged to come forward and tell their stories, he said.

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KEYWORDS: gay; homosexual; homosexualagenda; lesbian; lgbt; narth; sasu
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
remember the pedophilia is just fine, and not harmful to the children victims, report that the APA published a few years ago

Why do people continue to repeat this lie? The APA never published any studies stating that adult-child sex was not "harmful" (and in fact they released a press release affirming that their position is that it is harmful).

One study appears that suggests (not concludes -- it wasn't a complete enough study for conclusions) that child sexual abuse might not be as harmful for some victims as previously thought (though it is still harmful period) and NARTH twists it into an advocation of pedophilia.
81 posted on 02/27/2002 11:56:28 AM PST by Dimensio
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To: Gerfang
...there have always been a large percentage of homosexuals who do not engage in this activity.

I think that you're confusing homosexuals with people who live the "homosexual lifestyle". I've asked before what the "homosexual lifestyle" entails, and I've been told that it involves promiscious, anonymous sex -- sometimes with underage partners -- and usually heavy drinking and drug use. Note the wording of the original article posted here, referring to a "homosexual culture" and "heterosexual culture".

With that definition you can understand what the problem is and why it should be stopped.

Of course, given the above definition of "homosexual lifestyle", I must say that I've never actually met any homosexuals who really live the "homosexual lifestyle". Well, maybe one or two -- not very interesting people though. It really makes me wonder where the term comes from because while it's true that anyone who engages in the homosexual lifestyle would very likely be a homosexual, it's not the case -- as one might assume -- that a homosexual is likely to be living the homosexual lifestyle. Still, I think that if more people realised that most homosexuals don't actually live a "homosexual lifestyle" they'd have a better understanding of what you're talking about.
82 posted on 02/27/2002 12:04:04 PM PST by Dimensio
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To: ethical
You don't need a "reliable, consistant test" to find out what perverted sexual behavior is. A brain will do. At least in most cases.

There is a difference between opinion and fact. Facts require objective tests. Opinions are purely subjective and often have no empirical evidence. Substituting opinion for objectivity is unethical.

83 posted on 02/27/2002 2:38:52 PM PST by Gerfang
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To: Dimensio
Why do people continue to repeat this lie? The APA never published any studies stating that adult-child sex was not "harmful" (and in fact they released a press release affirming that their position is that it is harmful).

Oh... they only said that is is not as harmful as once believed. Yeah... BIG difference there. You are acting like a sleaze-ball lawyer trying to defend the indefensible on this one. According to the study, sexual relationships between adults and children are not as harmful as once believed, and not all childhood victims of sexual abuse necessarily suffer mental illness as a result. YES, the APA, by minimizing the effects on the child, of an adult having sex with children, is taking steps toward normalizing it if not condoning it.

And, the DSM-IV Bible now contends, unless "the fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors cause clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning" (DSM-IV, p. 528). So long as adults having sexual activity with children are not impaired or distressed by their behavior, there is no DSM-IV diagnosable mental disorder. So, as long as the pedophile functions "normally" on the job and out and about other people.

And, yes, only after a LOT of outrage, from the public and Congressman Tom DeLay, over the report, did the APA Board of Trustees finally write a resolution that stated that the APA "repudiates and disassociates itself from any organization or publication that advocates sexual interaction between children and adults."

Just as NOW no longer is about women's rights, rather it is about liberal advocacy, the APA has become a political advocate. In 1973 the APA made a politicized decision to take homosexuality off its list of disorders. Now they have headed the same direction with pedophilia.

84 posted on 02/27/2002 7:15:12 PM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird
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To: L.N. Smithee
BUMP!!
85 posted on 02/27/2002 7:37:09 PM PST by EdReform
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
Oh... they only said that is is not as harmful as once believed.

NO!

First, it was not the APA but one researcher publishing in the APA's journal. Honestly I'm not sure how seriously the APA took his findings though I don't recall them ever turning it into an official position. Second, you've misstated again what the findings were. It was not that child sexual abuse "is not as harmful as once believed", but that for SOME children the effects of child sexual abuse does not lead to as significant emotional damage (as in maladjustment) as previously thought. In other words, while it found that all victims of child sexual abuse suffered emotional damage, the damage for some (note: some means not all) of the victims was not as severe as typically expected. Why some people find such a finding objectionable, I have no idea -- it does not sound like a "legitimization" of pedophilia or even a weakening of any position against it -- if the results are objectionable, argue against the methodolgy and conclusions, don't argue that you don't like the consequences.

Anyway, NARTH got wind of the study and somehow -- I don't know what twist of logic or wording they used -- were able to make it sound like the study was claiming that adult-child sexual relationships were not harmful and possibly even beneficial to the child involved. I'm not sure if NARTH simply managed to twist such wording from the study or outright lied, but it didn't matter to people willing to listen to propaganda without doing any fact checking -- Dr. Laura really helped news of the "study" take off.

You also argue regarding the APA's position on DSM-IV diagnosis. Now, I'm not sure why you bring it up as the American Psychological Association has nothing to do with it, but I'll bite anyway. It seems as though you're reading into more than is there. They were speaking of diagnosis for a specific disorder, but that does not imply -- nor does the APA make the claim -- that child sexual abuse from someone who does not have symptoms of DSM-IV shouldn't be a concern. It's kind of how like an auto theif might not necessarily be a kleptomaniac -- it's a medical diagnosis (or rather a lack of one), but it doesn't make their actions any more acceptable.
86 posted on 02/27/2002 8:40:56 PM PST by Dimensio
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To: Gerfang
It is'nt that you don't see evidence that homosexuals can change their sexual desires/behavior, it's that you don't believe the ones who say they have changed.
87 posted on 02/27/2002 9:19:47 PM PST by ethical
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To: Gerfang
Do you believe in "objective tests" to see if six month old babies can climax? Homosexual "sex researcher" Alfred Kinsey did and carried it out with the help of pedophiles. THATS unethical.
88 posted on 02/27/2002 9:21:37 PM PST by ethical
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To: kattracks
BTTT
89 posted on 02/27/2002 9:30:34 PM PST by ImphClinton
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To: EdReform
You're awesome, Ed. Thanks for all the links.

It's stupid to rant and rave about wanting to hang queer radicals with a rope. It is much more effective to hang them with their own words.

90 posted on 02/27/2002 10:46:23 PM PST by L.N. Smithee
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To: Gerfang
GERFANG WROTE: "It is my opinion that homosexuality develops during pre-adolescence and become hard wired during puberty. Homosexual desire somehow becomes hard-wired and like any innate response, impossible to eliminate."

I'm sorry, but I must disagree with virtually EVERYTHING you have said in this whole thread, esp. at the end.

From ALL anecdotal and written evidence I have ever witnessed, in EVERY case, the male Sodomite was EXCESSIVELY CLOSE to their mother and/or had no father or male role model at home during the first three years of their life...and the female Sodomite was EXCESSIVELY CLOSE to their father and/or had no mother or female role model at home during the first three years of life.

Ever heard of "the formative years?" They're called that for a reason...because that is when the basis of your attitudes and belief system is developed. In short, a BABY or SMALL CHILD DOES NOT CHOOSE to have a propensity to prefer their own sex---their PARENTS' BEHAVIOUR toward them causes it.

Since people do not have RECOLLECTION from their BIRTH, as far as THEY know, they were "born that way"...they truthfully don't KNOW any different. But just as someone who is abused physically, mentally or emotionally in other ways didn't CAUSE their own resulting emotional state, they CAN get psychotherapy to REVERSE their abnormal emotional state and return them to a "normal" state---with time.

When people CHOOSE to have sex---either heterosexual or homosexual---that is a CHOICE they make. No one FORCES them to CHOOSE one way or the other. NATURE, however, tells them that HETEROSEXUAL SEX is the NATURAL way. Animals out in nature don't mate with their own sex! It isn't NATURAL---i.e. it isn't of nature.

Something I've thought about recently is that it isn't what someone does in their BEDROOM that causes the problem. It's the fact that Sodomites CONSTANTLY want to TELL us about what they do in their bedroom!

If they would keep their BEDROOM activities in their BEDROOM and OUT of the WORKPLACE and SCHOOLS, and QUIT CHOOSING to ACT and TALK EFFEMINATE (in the case of males) or as a BUTCH (in the case of females), NO ONE WOULD HAVE A CLUE WHAT THEY DO IN THEIR BEDROOM!!!!!!!

I repeat:
It's NOT what they do in their BEDROOM that is the problem...It's what they do and how they CHOOSE to BEHAVE IN PUBLIC, such as at WORK and SCHOOL!

Believe me, Sodomites CHOOSE to ACT and SPEAK the way they do. If they WANTED to, they could ACT and SPEAK without the lisp/swoosh or butch-type voice or walk. If they couldn't, there wouldn't be such things as ACTORS in Hollywood...they ACT!

I like to think of it like hearing a black person who CHOOSES to SPEAK and ACT in "jive" (or whatever they call it). They CHOOSE to do it---they're NOT "born that way!" And neither are Sodomites!

91 posted on 02/27/2002 10:51:59 PM PST by Concerned
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To: ethical
BINGO!!

gerfang refuses to admit the truth. I don't understand why he feels (or at least seems to feel) so threathened by the fact that people can be cured of SAD.

It's not like anyone is expecting him to change. We just want those who want to be healthy to have the freedom to become healthy without ridicule by 'their' community

GSA(P)

92 posted on 02/28/2002 4:53:38 AM PST by John O
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To: John O
This nation, in fact all of western civilization was built on a strong moral code. That code rests upon recogniztion of God and family. When you destroy the family (as the SADs are trying to do) you destroy the moral code and you destroy western society.

I agree that a strong moral code helped build our nation. I agree that religion and strong families were a big part of that heritage. But I disagree that gay men and women are trying to destroy the family; they are just trying to get along. You see homosexuals as a threat because in order for your value system to be effective, it must be universal. Reparative therapy is a means to incorporate homosexuals into that system.

But it doesn’t work. If homosexuals are not sexually attracted to the opposite sex any heterosexual marriage they enter into is a sham. Fraud or force will not change this. The mere fact of the existence of homosexuals causes people to question the values that you hold dear – and they are right to do so. And if those moral values you champion are rejected, it is not the fault of some conspiracy to do ill. Rather it is because those cultural values failed to meet the needs of our society.

When questions arise about the foundations of our cultural values we have two choices: Suppress the evidence or modify our values. Attempts to suppress the evidence by social conservative have been less than successful. I understand your concerns and I respect your ideals. But the world you want to create cannot be. A value system that doesn’t reflect objective reality isn’t worth keeping and will hold our nation back.

93 posted on 02/28/2002 4:54:23 AM PST by Gerfang
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To: Concerned
exactly correct bump

GSA(P)

94 posted on 02/28/2002 4:55:59 AM PST by John O
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To: L.N. Smithee
I personally know people who say that it is possible, and that they are living proof. Are you calling them liars?

Ask them if they have experienced and increase in heterosexual arousal since beginning reparative therapy. There is no evidence that they do, even at the NARTH site.

95 posted on 02/28/2002 4:58:46 AM PST by Gerfang
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To: Gerfang
If homosexuals are not sexually attracted to the opposite sex any heterosexual marriage they enter into is a sham.

Since when is marriage about sex?

the one phrase that always comes to mind when talking to you is
"There is none so blind as he which refuses to see"

There are thousands of cases where reparative therapy has worked. Even if there was only one, reparative therapy works. try recognizing truth once, you may like it.

God Save America (Please)

96 posted on 02/28/2002 5:44:50 AM PST by John O
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To: L.N. Smithee;Homosexual Agenda
"...Thanks for all the links."

You're welcome! We need to get the information out to as many parents as possible. The many links together show that the brainwashing of kids (and their parents!) by homosexuals is a well planned attack that is speading to schools across the nation.

The myths that many parents believe that need to be dispelled are

1. Homosexuality has been proven to be genetic or biological

2. Homosexuals make up 10 percent of the population and are a minority in need of special civil rights protection

3. The reason for including homosexuality in the school curriculum is to promote tolerance and safety.


I've found the following links to be very useful when talking to parents about the homosexual agenda:

Listen to Mass. Depts of Education and Health instruct children on the mechanics of homosexuality.

"On March 25, 2000 the Massachusetts Departments of Education and Health teamed up with the national gay and lesbian group GLSEN (Gay, Lesbian, Straight Education Network) and conducted a conference for school children and educators. The conference was held under the guise of tolerance and safe schools. However, as the Parent's Rights Coalition discovered, this conference was about teaching children the unsafe mechanics of homosexuality. Following the conference, organizers denied claims of misconduct made by the Parent's Rights Coalition. Organizers were forced to concede the truth after the Parent's Rights Coalition made public an audio recording from the conference, which substantiated their claims..."


"A Change In Thinking"

"THE GAY GENE: GOING, GOING … GONE"

The Overhauling of Straight America

GLSEN Encourages Teens In Anal SEX "Don't give up."

"Recommended Reading for Teenagers? A Closer Look at P-FLAG"


After the parent realizes they've been lied to by many in the homosexual community, I provide them with the following information:

How To Protect Your Children From PRO-HOMOSEXUALITY PROPAGANDA In Schools

Seven Steps to Recruit-Proof Your Child

The Facts About "Just the Facts"


And for teens, the two links I posted in #55 above (I just found these a couple of days ago):

Choice 4 Truth (http://www.choice4truth.com/)

(Direct link to student section: http://www.choice4truth.com/index-teens.html)

Truthatschool.org (http://www.truthatschool.org/)


If parents want additional information, send them to GrandMoM's thread.


"...It's stupid to rant and rave about wanting to hang queer radicals with a rope. It is much more effective to hang them with their own words."

I very much agree with you! As I've stated previously, We will bury them with their own words.

98 posted on 02/28/2002 6:14:02 AM PST by EdReform
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To: John O
Since when is marriage about sex?

If human beings didn’t have sex, there would be no such thing as marriage.

the one phrase that always comes to mind when talking to you is "There is none so blind as he which refuses to see"

I try very hard to be objective. If you believe I’m being deceptive, there’s little I can do to dissuade you.

There are thousands of cases where reparative therapy has worked. Even if there was only one, reparative therapy works. try recognizing truth once, you may like it.

And here’s how to do that: Take a group of gay men and measure their levels of homosexual and heterosexual attraction using a consistent and reliable mechanism. Subject them in a controlled manner to reparative therapy for a given amount of time. Then measure their heterosexual and homosexual attractions again. If a statistically significant increase in heterosexual attraction were noted, I would gladly recount my objections. NARTH is unwilling or unable to do this.

Please stop substituting personal desire for truth.

99 posted on 02/28/2002 6:35:19 AM PST by Gerfang
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To: Gerfang;John O
"But I disagree that gay men and women are trying to destroy the family; they are just trying to get along."

In Their Own Words: The Homosexual Agenda:

"Homosexual activist Michelangelo Signorile, who writes periodically for The New York Times, summarizes the agenda in OUT magazine:

...to fight for same-sex marriage and its benefits and then, once granted, redefine the institution of marriage completely, to demand the right to marry not as a way of adhering to society's moral codes, but rather to debunk a myth and radically alter an archaic institution...

The most subversive action lesbian and gay men can undertake --and one that would perhaps benefit all of society--is to transform the notion of family entirely." "Its the final tool with which to dismantle all sodomy statues, get education about homosexuality and AIDS into the public schools and in short to usher in a sea change in how society views and treats us."


Here's what two leaders of the homosexual community wrote in The Overhauling of Straight America:

"The first order of business is desensitization of the American public concerning gays and gay rights. To desensitize the public is to help it view homosexuality with indifference instead of with keen emotion....

At least in the beginning, we are seeking public desensitization and nothing more. We do not need and cannot expect a full “appreciation” or “understanding” of homosexuality from the average American. You can forget about trying to persuade the masses that homosexuality is a good thing. But if only you can get them to think that it is just another thing, with a shrug of their shoulders, then your battle for legal and social rights is virtually won.

The way to benumb raw sensitivities about homosexuality is to have a lot of people talk a great deal about the subject in a neutral or supportive way...

And when we say talk about homosexuality, we mean just that. In the early stages of any campaign to reach straight America, the masses should not be shocked and repelled by premature exposure to homosexual behavior itself. Instead, the imagery of sex should be downplayed and gay rights should be reduced to an abstract social question as much as possible. First let the camel get his nose inside the tent -- and only later his unsightly derriere!"

"...While public opinion is one primary source of mainstream values, religious authority is the other. When conservative churches condemn gays, there are only two things we can do to confound the homophobia of true believers. First, we can use talk to muddy the moral waters. This means publicizing support for gays by more moderate churches, raising theological objections of our own about conservative interpretations of biblical teachings, and exposing hatred and inconsistency. Second, we can undermine the moral authority of homophobic churches by portraying them as antiquated backwaters, badly out of step with the times and with the latest findings of psychology. Against the mighty pull of institutional Religion one must set the mightier draw of Science and Public Opinion (the shield and word of that accursed “secular humanism”). Such an unholy alliance has worked well against churches before, on such topics as divorce and abortion. With enough open talk about the prevalence and acceptability of homosexuality, that alliance can work again here..."


100 posted on 02/28/2002 6:41:03 AM PST by EdReform
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