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Doctor Troubled By Pain Of Infants In Abortion
DA*DI ^ | 2/11/2002 | Dr. Thomas Messe

Posted on 02/10/2002 9:47:57 PM PST by J.R.R. Tolkien

Doctor Troubled by Pain of Infants in Abortion

February 8, 2002
www.massnews.com
Letters to the Editor
Thomas V. Messe, M.D.

As a physician, I am always concerned about the level of pain my patients have. One group of people who never receive attention to their level of pain is unborn children. Many scientists have discovered that unborn children experience pain as early as seven weeks gestation. This has been shown by accelerations in their heart rate and brain waves during an abortion. There is no question that a baby in the 2nd and 3rd trimester experiences pain during an abortion. I would like to see legislation passed that makes women aware of fetal pain and gives them the option of receiving some sort of pain medicine during the procedure.

Saline abortions are probably the most painful procedures for infants. This technique is used after 16 weeks of pregnancy, when enough fluid has accumulated in the amniotic fluid sac surrounding the baby. A needle is inserted through the mother’s abdomen and 50-250 ml (as much as a cup) of amniotic fluid is withdrawn and replaced with a solution of concentrated salt. The baby breathes in, swallowing the salt and is poisoned. The chemical solution also causes painful burning and deterioration of the baby’s skin. Usually, after about an hour, the child dies. The mother goes into labor about 33 to 35 hours after instillation and delivers a dead, burned, shriveled baby. About 97% of mothers deliver their dead babies within 72 hours.

The "Dilation and Extraction" (D&X), or "intact D&E" (IDE) is sometimes referred to as Partial Birth Abortion. This procedure is used on women who are 20- to 32-weeks pregnant -- or even later into pregnancy. Guided by ultrasound, the abortionist reaches into the uterus, grabs the unborn baby’s leg with forceps and pulls the baby into the birth canal, except for the head, which is deliberately kept just inside the womb. (At this point in a partial-birth abortion, the baby is alive.) Then the abortionist jams scissors into the back of the baby’s skull and spreads the tips of the scissors apart to enlarge the wound.

After removing the scissors, a suction catheter is inserted into the skull and the baby’s brains are sucked out. The collapsed head is then removed from the uterus.

Animals in veterinarian offices and in research labs are not allowed to suffer like this. Why do we let members of our own race suffer in this fashion 1.5 million times a year? Let’s make it a law that these victims receive anesthesia.

- Thomas V. Messe, M.D.
Groton, CT

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101 posted on 02/11/2002 12:15:17 PM PST by Texas Gal
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To: A CA Guy
It put 9-11 on a particular series of sinners and not the terrorists. Stupid statement.

I agree, when viewing their actual statement. It was not clarified. What I believe is that no, God did not cause the terrorists to commit such an atrocity, however, He did take his hand of protection off of this country and allowed it to happen.

It was a wake up call,( the act not perpetrated by Him)but by terrorists. But sad to say, not enough people heard the wake up call. Oh yes people are singing God Bless America,and waving Old Glory, but it takes more than lip service and I do not see it happening.

102 posted on 02/11/2002 12:57:13 PM PST by DreamWeaver
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To: Khepera
Very huggable!
103 posted on 02/11/2002 4:32:49 PM PST by mrustow
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To: Hank Kerchief;Khepera
Tell someone that they cannot or must not do something, and you can be certain some will do it, just to defy your presumptuousness

Hank, you're right on part of this. I myself (gasp!) was a real brat as a teenager...and you betcha, I did the opposite of what my mother told me to do. (most of the time)

However, if indeed these pictures would cause a woman to HAVE an abortion, I propose that PP plasters their walls with them. Go ahead, SHOW the girls the monitor when (hahahahha) they're giving the ultrasound. Using your reasoning, business would be booming for them.

104 posted on 02/11/2002 5:22:54 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: Hank Kerchief
It is beginning to look to me like most of the people on this thread really hope the unborn do feel pain.

Darlin', you're so off base it's pathetic.

105 posted on 02/11/2002 5:25:17 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: Brad's Gramma
Can you say that in color?
106 posted on 02/11/2002 6:36:42 PM PST by J.R.R. Tolkien
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To: Hank Kerchief
The author IS a physician; you are merely an apologist for serial killing. Alarm? You don't have the human heart to know the half of it.
107 posted on 02/11/2002 7:15:23 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: Khepera
Thanks for the link. Since even the abortionist's site distinguishes between "elective 2nd term" and "therapeutic third-term abortions," my hunch is that third-term abortion is probably prohibited in all of the states, except for the "therapeutic" dodge. I've heard pro-abortionists make much of the "except to save the life of the mother" line, as if it were some sort of landmark legal protection, when in fact doctors have always had the right, in the case of a true threat to the mother's lfe, to abort.
108 posted on 02/11/2002 7:36:52 PM PST by mrustow
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To: mrustow
Well and truly said! The madness of institutionalized serial killing of the prenatal human since 1973 rests not on reproductive rights or issues of women's health risks, rather it is a demonic means by which twisted minds have sought to 'empower' women.

As you so apty stated, physicians have always had the legal right to terminate an unborn human individual if that individual life is a threat to the life of the woman. Pray the insanity halts soon, for the sake of those about to be willfully terminated AND the continued blessings of our Creator.

The Lord told Moses He could start over, rejecting the seed of Abram; the service to Moloch must be weighing heavily against US.

109 posted on 02/12/2002 7:09:04 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: J.R.R. Tolkien
bump
110 posted on 07/10/2003 10:48:43 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch
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