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Doctor Troubled By Pain Of Infants In Abortion
DA*DI ^ | 2/11/2002 | Dr. Thomas Messe

Posted on 02/10/2002 9:47:57 PM PST by J.R.R. Tolkien

Doctor Troubled by Pain of Infants in Abortion

February 8, 2002
www.massnews.com
Letters to the Editor
Thomas V. Messe, M.D.

As a physician, I am always concerned about the level of pain my patients have. One group of people who never receive attention to their level of pain is unborn children. Many scientists have discovered that unborn children experience pain as early as seven weeks gestation. This has been shown by accelerations in their heart rate and brain waves during an abortion. There is no question that a baby in the 2nd and 3rd trimester experiences pain during an abortion. I would like to see legislation passed that makes women aware of fetal pain and gives them the option of receiving some sort of pain medicine during the procedure.

Saline abortions are probably the most painful procedures for infants. This technique is used after 16 weeks of pregnancy, when enough fluid has accumulated in the amniotic fluid sac surrounding the baby. A needle is inserted through the mother’s abdomen and 50-250 ml (as much as a cup) of amniotic fluid is withdrawn and replaced with a solution of concentrated salt. The baby breathes in, swallowing the salt and is poisoned. The chemical solution also causes painful burning and deterioration of the baby’s skin. Usually, after about an hour, the child dies. The mother goes into labor about 33 to 35 hours after instillation and delivers a dead, burned, shriveled baby. About 97% of mothers deliver their dead babies within 72 hours.

The "Dilation and Extraction" (D&X), or "intact D&E" (IDE) is sometimes referred to as Partial Birth Abortion. This procedure is used on women who are 20- to 32-weeks pregnant -- or even later into pregnancy. Guided by ultrasound, the abortionist reaches into the uterus, grabs the unborn baby’s leg with forceps and pulls the baby into the birth canal, except for the head, which is deliberately kept just inside the womb. (At this point in a partial-birth abortion, the baby is alive.) Then the abortionist jams scissors into the back of the baby’s skull and spreads the tips of the scissors apart to enlarge the wound.

After removing the scissors, a suction catheter is inserted into the skull and the baby’s brains are sucked out. The collapsed head is then removed from the uterus.

Animals in veterinarian offices and in research labs are not allowed to suffer like this. Why do we let members of our own race suffer in this fashion 1.5 million times a year? Let’s make it a law that these victims receive anesthesia.

- Thomas V. Messe, M.D.
Groton, CT

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To: Hank Kerchief;Khepera
Do you really prefer people to make their choices based on feeling rather than right reason?

I really don't care HOW they change their minds, as long as they do. And don't you DARE say that those pictures won't have a lasting impact on someone contemplating abortion.....

21 posted on 02/10/2002 10:29:12 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: Khepera
How did you get my baby picture?
23 posted on 02/10/2002 10:32:59 PM PST by Jimbaugh
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To: Hank Kerchief
Do you really prefer people to make their choices based on feeling rather than right reason?

I don't care how they make their decision as long as they make the "Right" decision to give birth.

24 posted on 02/10/2002 10:33:11 PM PST by Khepera
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To: Hank Kerchief
We know they feel no pain.

How's that? Did you ask them?

26 posted on 02/10/2002 10:33:37 PM PST by AndrewC
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To: Jimbaugh
How did you get my baby picture?

I've got this itty bitty camera. Which one is you?

27 posted on 02/10/2002 10:35:42 PM PST by Khepera
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To: Khepera
#20 Picture
28 posted on 02/10/2002 10:37:59 PM PST by Jimbaugh
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To: AndrewC
That was uncalled for.
29 posted on 02/10/2002 10:40:15 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: Brad's Gramma
We change the laws, legally. We change hearts, one by one. We pray earnestly. That's it.

ya got that right....

30 posted on 02/10/2002 10:40:41 PM PST by MetalHeadConservative35
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To: Khepera

Planned Parenthood and
the KKK wanted to kill
me but my mother is a
Christian. Thank you Jesus


31 posted on 02/10/2002 10:40:50 PM PST by Khepera
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To: Khepera
Thanks. What a beautiful baby!!!!!!
32 posted on 02/10/2002 10:42:31 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: deathscythex
well yall im out for tonight catch up with yall in the morning

good night! :)

33 posted on 02/10/2002 10:43:29 PM PST by MetalHeadConservative35
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To: J.R.R. Tolkien
Pardon my ignorance, but I thought the law only permitted abortions during the first trimester. (I know that partial-birth abortions are committed as late as nine months, but I thought they exist only as a dodge around the law.)
34 posted on 02/10/2002 10:43:45 PM PST by mrustow
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To: Hank Kerchief
Do you really prefer people to make their choices based on feeling rather than right reason?

Eighty percent of the women who are told the truth about what is inside of them when they are pregnant and thinking of abortion, decide not to have an abortion. If you think that is pro-life propaganda, think again. That comes from an Alan Guttmacher Institute study done almost twenty years ago. A study that they have taken great pains to hide.

35 posted on 02/10/2002 10:44:44 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: Brad's Gramma
Good Morning Gramma. The babies all love you and we do too. the Bluesman is speachless. Jesus blesses you.
36 posted on 02/10/2002 10:44:53 PM PST by Khepera
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To: Khepera
Jesus blesses you.

I could use a big dose of that right now! Thanks!!!!

37 posted on 02/10/2002 10:46:40 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: Brad's Gramma

Pick me up I need a hug.

38 posted on 02/10/2002 10:50:23 PM PST by Khepera
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To: Khepera
Awesome. Sure wish I could reach right in this computer and grab him.....he'd get a big ole Gramma hug like he's never had before. I'd probably walk around, bouncing him around in my arms, "singing" (barf, gag) to him......

Thanks a bunch.

39 posted on 02/10/2002 10:53:34 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: mrustow
Some states regulate it and some do not. Dr. Tiller specializes in Late term Abortion.
40 posted on 02/10/2002 10:54:05 PM PST by Khepera
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