Posted on 02/01/2002 9:16:23 PM PST by Admin Moderator
Way too many vanity threads lately. And way too much trash being posted. Please try to stay on topic (politics). Also, please do a search on a significant word from the title of your article before posting. This will reduce the number of duplicates. And, along these same lines, please use the original titles on your article posts. Do NOT edit the titles. Do NOT use "My Title" titles. This will also help to reduce the number of duplicates.
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Thank you.
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To be clear about it, this is JimRob's site and what he says goes, but it is the ones who are quick with an abuse button that get me riled.
For what it's worth, unless a post is egregiously profane, I think it should stand as proof of the lefties' ignorance. Every time I see a post deleted, it makes me wonder what inane remark would have made me realize the liberals are loopier than I previously suspected. But like you said...it ain't my website.
I don't believe I said the picture offended me, it didn't. Heck, I may have done the same thing under similar circumstances. What offends me is that this man is still being held and people are pointing out and discussing his gestures for the world. Who knows, continued displays of this picture and discussion of its contents may put him in greater danger. That's what offends me. It's an amazing lack of good sense.
So let's go on the notion that posting this picture and/or pictures of this type supossedly puts people like Pearl in danger....
I remember the last two weeks, the media blitz about how "BADLY" the Camp Gitmo goons were being treated by our marines...remember the pictures?? How many had guns pointed directly at their heads?? How many had OBVIOUS and blatant signs of abuse and torture??? OOOHH and remember the one picture of the FEMALE marine standing OUTSIDE the fence guarding them in that extremely threatening and intimidating pose? Remember the outrage from the British left about how VILE the conditions are these prisoners have been kept in?
Of course it is silly and dangerous of us to counter that outrage with the picture(s) of Pearl being held in the conditions he is being held in. We are at war and we must go out of our way not to show the enemy in his true colors. Fluffy feel good stuff is surely what we need now.
This post could have been a tad more sucinct but i have yet to have my required caffeine dosage to be truly verbose. I am sure youse guys (and gal) get my (sarcastic) point.
My post 225 correctly refutes that.
In your post 247, you continue to try to claim that she said that it was the picture that was offensive which your own highlights from post 142 show to be in direct contravention to your claim, to wit:
I don't believe I said the picture offended me, it didn't.
Why do you continue to maintain that the poster says the PICTURE ITSELF was offensive, when it is obviously not the case?
Continuing-
Who knows, continued displays of this picture and discussion of its contents may put him in greater danger. That's what offends me.
If you take the italicized phrases out of context, and lump them together, then yes you are right
-- just like Bill Clinton and his minions were right.
I did fire an unwarranted shot at you, which I regret, but all your posts in the latter part of this thread were so sophomoric that I had a knee jerk reaction.
I should have considered the source and not responded at all.
Sorry.
You don't have a red nose, do you? hmmmm
You're right. All I know is what was posted, and it appears that you are establishing a pattern of responding inaccurately or out of context. That is what I am responding to, objectively.
Agreed.
This is long, but it details explicitly what happened to the crew after Time Magazine spilled the beans. Do you endorse stooping to Time's level?
There were reasons why Time spilled those beans, reasons why they were given those beans, so to speak, to spill in public in the first place. You'd do well to learn a good deal more about the subject matter besides a quick scan of that Time article.
Read the results here. It is horrifying.
Just so, and that is not the worst of it, though the CTs aboard were supposedly intelligence community professionals who knew and understood the risks of their business. Equally horrifying is the reason those men were placed in their position in the first place, and the decision to keep them in the dark as to the reason they were allowed to suffer that fate for a year, then to receive no recognition for their best attempts to bear such allegience to their oaths of loyalty as they could for all the years since. But there was indeed a reason, which I hope was a good enough one for the consciences of those who chose to sacrifice them in that manner.
And if civilian journalist Pearl is maintaining that same allegience to this country as the Pueblo sailors did, he deserves far better treatment than they received, and should his death result, it should be categorized as the same sort of sacrifice as that of Todd Beamer and his fellow passengers aboard Flight 93 after his reported last words of *let's Roll and the crash of that aircraft in a location other than where the terrorist hijackers aboard had intended. But let us hope that it doesn't come to that.
Everything following is from the link you kindly provided. I would suggest you read the story.
I am very familiar with the story, as I am with Captain Bucher's account of the event in his semi-autobiographical Bucher:My Story , the AGER-2 website, the book Over the Line: North Korea’s Negotiating Strategy by Chuck Downs, The Last Voyage of Uss Pueblo,. by Ed Brandt and several other related unclassified references, and also to after-action reports that I do not believe will ever see the light of day. Though the events on board the Pueblo are horrifying enough, a glance at a calender should help you further understand just what forces were at play.
But if you care to get a better understanding of what is going on for WSJ reporter Pearl, those are your starting places as well, acrobatic and specious though they may be.
*Hey, look at the little red stars on their sailor caps....*
Agreed.
This is long, but it details explicitly what happened to the crew after Time Magazine spilled the beans. Do you endorse stooping to Time's level?
There were reasons why Time spilled those beans, reasons why they were given those beans, so to speak, to spill in public in the first place. You'd do well to learn a good deal more about the subject matter besides a quick scan of that Time article.
Read the results here. It is horrifying.
Just so, and that is not the worst of it, though the CTs aboard were supposedly intelligence community professionals who knew and understood the risks of their business. Equally horrifying is the reason those men were placed in their position in the first place, and the decision to keep them in the dark as to the reason they were allowed to suffer that fate for a year, then to receive no recognition for their best attempts to bear such allegience to their oaths of loyalty as they could for all the years since. But there was indeed a reason, which I hope was a good enough one for the consciences of those who chose to sacrifice them in that manner.
And if civilian journalist Pearl is maintaining that same allegience to this country as the Pueblo sailors did, he deserves far better treatment than they received, and should his death result, it should be categorized as the same sort of sacrifice as that of Todd Beamer and his fellow passengers aboard Flight 93 after his reported last words of *let's Roll and the crash of that aircraft in a location other than where the terrorist hijackers aboard had intended. But let us hope that it doesn't come to that.
Everything following is from the link you kindly provided. I would suggest you read the story.
I am very familiar with the story, as I am with Captain Bucher's account of the event in his semi-autobiographical Bucher:My Story , the AGER-2 website, the book Over the Line: North Korea’s Negotiating Strategy by Chuck Downs, The Last Voyage of Uss Pueblo,. by Ed Brandt and several other related unclassified references, and also to after-action reports that I do not believe will ever see the light of day. Though the events on board the Pueblo are horrifying enough, a glance at a calender should help you further understand just what forces were at play.
But if you care to get a better understanding of what is going on for WSJ reporter Pearl, those are your starting places as well, acrobatic and specious though they may be.
*Hey, look at the little red stars on their sailor caps....*
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