If illegals can obtain base clearance to a highly-sensitive area like a nuclear sub base, things are in a bad state indeed.
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To: John Jorsett
If illegals can obtain base clearance to a highly-sensitive area like a nuclear sub base, things are in a bad state indeed
You got that right! That's extremely discouraging! :( At least they got those...what else is out there I wonder?
2 posted on
01/28/2002 2:08:08 PM PST by
GussiedUp
To: John Jorsett
That is nasty, toxic work as I recall. No wonder the contractor was using illegals. Once they get sick, he can ship 'em back home and order new ones.
4 posted on
01/28/2002 2:10:31 PM PST by
Redcloak
To: John Jorsett
Where any of them driving the Greenville?
To: John Jorsett
All illegal aliens out!!!!!!!
To: John Jorsett
I don't know about the rest of you guys but I think this is hilarious. Uncle Sam paying illegals to clean our nukes. What a scream. I wonder if they vacuum the insides as well.
Oh well, at least the INS doing SOMETHING, ANYTHING about illegal aliens these days...
15 posted on
01/28/2002 2:18:18 PM PST by
skeeter
To: John Jorsett
I remember a nation that not so long ago was a nation of laws. It was a nation with a Constitution. It's citizens were recognized as the true rulers, and were honored above all others. It was a nation with a soul. Where has she gone?
Today those citizens are suspected terrorists unless they can prove otherwise. Their monies are stolen, children indoctrinated and they considered to be nothing more than cash cows in the support of citizens of other nations who invade us.
I could go on, but if this nation isn't going to, why should I waste my breath?
The decisions have been made far above my station. For I like my fellow citizens are but subjects of the ruling elite.
To: John Jorsett
W.T.F. is going on?! Our Republic is in deep sh@t!!
33 posted on
01/28/2002 2:28:52 PM PST by
timestax
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The aliens were employed by a contractor and were engaged in the sandblasting and painting of a nuclear submarine! 5 of the aliens had obtained base clearances, and 5 had not. Some aliens fled at the approach of the INS, causing the lockdown of the base.
They sure sound like potential Republican voters to me!
The Terror War on the domestic front is a joke... President Bush asks citizens make sacrifices while aliens wander at will. Any apprehension of illegals at the current rate is a spit into the wind.
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Hugh Hewitt, are you listening?
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To: John Jorsett
43 posted on
01/28/2002 2:34:43 PM PST by
FresnoDA
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Como esta?
To: John Jorsett
A few problems with the reporting of this story.
1st, the drydock where the subs are taken is away from the base & tender(s) just inside the bay on Pt. Loma.
2nd, there is an FBI building here in SD that is responsible for home security, etc., close to the stadium, but it's always been public policy that they don't disclose its location in direct press like that.
To: John Jorsett
Further details:
Here is additional information on this story from the Hedgecock Show:
Origins of aliens: 8 Mexico 1 Phillipines, 1 Honduras. The story has been confirmed by the INS and Border Patrol.
Someone named Jan Caldwell of the FBI returned a phone call from KOGO. She said the case is the INS's, "It's their venue. I't not the FBI's job. KOGO is blowing the story out of proportion." KOGO has a call in now to Tom Ridge, Director of Homeland Security. They plan to inform him of the breach, if he's hasn't been told, that the FBI isn't interested, and that the FBI claims not to have an agent assigned to Homeland Security for San Diego.
To: John Jorsett
I suspect the illegals rode in, in a van or truck, with someone who had a base clearance. I've been on a couple of AF bases in the last couple of years, and TO GET ON THE BASE, they only checked the driver of the vehicle. To get into sensitive, in a classifed sense, buildings or areas is of course a different matter, but I doubt anybody considers the outside of a sub to be "sensitive", in a classified, as opposed to physical, security sense. This can of course change depending on the threatcon or DefCon level in effect. Both have been high since 9-11 of course, and my trips were prior to then, so things may have changed, and certainly should have.
60 posted on
01/28/2002 2:47:29 PM PST by
El Gato
To: John Jorsett
The Navy simply has to follow the Federal Acquisition Regulations that apply to the DoD. For tech services, most (not all) contracts have to be AWARDED to the lowest bidder. The winning contractor in order to fulfill his contract needs to hire employees willing to work for the lowest payrate! QED: illegal immigrants. But, how the heck a bunch of illegals are hired and cleared onto base is beyond me. Someone at Pt Loma security should seriously consider another career field. (Practice with me: "Would you like fries with that, Sir?")
67 posted on
01/28/2002 2:53:58 PM PST by
texson66
To: John Jorsett
Sometimes I feel like I'm living in a side by side world with the current world. Is this really happening in the USA? Then I think about what was governing our country for 8 years and realize why this has happened. Clinton did more to hurt this country than any man that ever existed, including Hitler.
To: John Jorsett
I think there needs to be some SERIOUS deportation proceedings!
To: John Jorsett
Don't worry about it. When I was a teenager growing up in San Diego, I toured one of those nuclear subs at the Ballast Point base with a friend who's father was in the Navy. All the sensitive electronic equipment is tightly covered up with tarpolins, so people working on the sub can't see anything or steal anything. In addition, the Navy personnel onboard keep a close watch on all non-Navy personnel.
To: John Jorsett
Open borders. One world government or as President Bush I called it "the New World Order",we will simply be a "Nation State" ..and interstate travel and work are no problem right?
To: John Jorsett
UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE
Further Info:
Congressman Duncan Hunter has just appeared on the Hedgecock show (his district is in the San Diego area) and announced that he's coming to San Diego and will be meeting with officials at 5:30 pm Pacific tomorrow to get answers. He will be asking if there are security procedures in place and the illegals somehow got through, or if there's simply no procedures in effect at all.
The Navy has called back to the KOGO people and said that the illegals were working on a drydock 'near' a submarine, but not 'on' the submarine. They were employed by a company named Coastal Coatings.
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