Sen. Helms May Endorse Liddy Dole This Week at CPAC

The National Journal and The Raleigh (N.C.) News and Observer ^ | Saturday January 26, 2001 | 'Weekend Scoop' Political Tip Sheet Staff

[umbra]

Senator Jesse Helms (Republican-NC) 'has steadfastly avoided taking sides' in past GOP primaries, but he 'is about to bend his rule some--if not outright break it.'

Helms is scheduled to address CPAC on 1/31, and he 'has invited Elizabeth Dole to introduce him.'

Helms apparently plans to 'lavish her with praise.'

Helm's spokesman Jimmy Broughton 'wouldn't say whether Helms plans to endorse Dole, suggesting: 'Stay Tuned.'

One of Dole's GOP rivals, atty Jim Snyder,: "All this pomp and circumstance is to expected for someone who's been in Washington for so long.'

[billbears]

Well as stated before, I will not vote for her. The Socialist-Lite party has already decided she will win. I've seen a couple commercials for candidates that are real conservatives in this state, but they won't have the money behind them like Carpetbagger Dole will.

[Jhoffa_]

I guess I am not being clear tonight.

I just meant that I would be a RINO voting for someone like Liddy Dole.

Because I am a Conservative, who would be holding my nose and voting for a Republican with whom I disagree strongly.

If would be a Conservative, voting Republican in name only.

I don't even recognize some of the things running with R's behind their names anymore..

[azhenfud]

"You need to realize that not everybody feels the same way you do, and unless or until you get together with other people with likeminded views to actively boycott elections, all you're doing is making it easier to elect socialists and leftists who really do want to lessen our freedom."

Pardon me for intruding, but do you really think Dolt has enough backbone to make any difference on those more controversial issues? As an eigth generation North Carolinian, I wouldn't vote for her even if she were the only Repub excuse running and I AM A REPUBLICAN because this party more closely represents those ideals I hold dear as a Christian. If Helms endorses her just because she holds a pink elephant, he will prove to me that it IS time for him to retire for becoming soft on principle. The reason I say "pink" is because Dolt has no true Republican color. North Carolina, nor America can no longer afford our represenatives' inability to take a stance and let the chips fall where they will...
Az

[doglot]

If left to the Raleigh crowd, we would have both Senators Democrats because they control the legislature.

To clear things up about John Edwards, he carried Raleigh and east. This would be the tropical storm Floyd and hog farming portion of the state. It could be just as easily colored Jim Hunt should that color exist in the spectrum. He did not have a majority from Raleigh west to Tennessee anywhere except a few city pockets, but this eastern area gave him the majority needed. There was a red and blue map of NC published at the time of the senate race as well as the presidential race. Maybe someone could find it and post it. I think AP did the graphic. Of course I am relying on memory.

[doglot]

Make that read "like the presidential race."

[c-b 1]

Liddy Dole is a gun grabbing, pro-abortion, RINO.

You are lying.

No that is not a lie, it is what she herself told us in 1999.

[Theodore R.]

Poor Jesse, he wants his little Senate seat to stay Republican, and he knows the political winds in NC are blowing Democrat, Democrat, Democrat. The Democrats have the governorship and the other Senate seat and the state legislature. They hope to get Jesse's seat as a prize trophy, and then they will have 3/3 of the major offices. Jesse doesn't want that to happen, so he is latching on to the Dole skirts! His ex-colleague J. Bennett Johnston, Jr., D-LA, once voted the "biggest spender" in Congress, yet lionized by the "conservative" voters of LA, was able to put a liberal Democrat in the Senate to succeed himself. So Jesse is hoping just to keep an "R" label on the seat. I wish Jesse had prepared a real conservative successor to run for the seat. But Phil Gramm, Ronald Reagan, Howard Baker all left Senate seats or governorship and left no strong contenders to succeed them. You don't see Democrats do that too often. They have replacements ready to run full speed ahead: Mary Landrieu taking over for Johnston, John Breaux taking over from Russell B. Long, another LA liberal Democrat, and liberal Max Cleland taking over from Sam Nunn in GA. The Republicans just don't know how to play ball.

[Theodore R.]

The RINOs have their national day of celebration next Saturday. It's called Ground Hog Day. They run back in their nests out of fear of facing the Democrat opposition. Many of them actually WISH they were Democrats but are too snobby to make the switch!

[Dan from Michigan]

I don't know how it went in Edwards Race, but in Bush's case, Gore did not win one county in Western NC. Gore won in the Northeastern most and Southeastern counties only.

Although Edwards won win 52%(I think) and Bush won with 56%

[Jhoffa_]

Damn, I am really Not Being Clear tonight..

Blaming the voter for not turning out, for a candidate like Liddy Dole is akin to blaming Burger King for stealing customers from McDonnalds.

It's blaming the consumer for not consuming a repulsive product. as opposed to blaming McDonnalds themselves for marketing a repulsive product to begin with..

[mykdsmom]

No, not me.....I've resigned myself to a Liddy Dole reign, no matter HOW distasteful.............I'm still trying to escape this state.

I WILL NOT vote for her in the primary though.

MKM

[RJL]

Liddy Dole is a gun grabbing, pro-abortion, RINO.

You are lying.

How liberal of you.

It appears there are many liars here with me. Will you be offering any proof of my/our lies?

[sneakypete]

Isn't there any real Republican who can win in NC?

No. Giddy has been given Helm's Senate seat by both the NC-GOP,and the RNC. She has the full support of both organizations,and this makes her unbeatable in the primaries.

[sneakypete]

that's good enough for my support

"If you're happy and you know it,clank your chains".

[sneakypete]

In my case the pubbie party is gone.

There new name is the "DimReps".

[sneakypete]

If you are so anti-Dole, and wanna stand strong for your beliefs by voting your conscience for someone other than her--why the hell not vote for the most liberal, Communist Demoncrap on the machine?

Which is exactly what I plan on doing. If we are going to end up having another revolution anyway,let'w go ahead and have it now.

[BillyBoy]

>> There's not a chance that as a senator, Dole would be a RINO of the Specter/Snowe/Collins variety. She will probably support Bush a large majority of the time. <<

Liddy Dole worked for LYNDON JOHNSON (of all people!) to initiate his "great socity" socialist programs, and the ONLY reason she "joined" the Republican Party MUCH LATER was because she married Bob. She was a registered liberal 'RAT the last time she lived in North Carolina. She did a mediore job when she worked under Reagan and Bush, where all she did is introduce new federal regulations and complain Reagan was too right wing and "macho" for female votes. She did not come out for ANY conservative issue in her Presidential campaign last year, but she did come out in support of several liberal ones. In short, there is nothing to support your theory that she won't morph into Olympia Snowe if elected. She's also not likely to stick around for mulitiple terms because of her age.

Now, here's a REAL Republican candidate that will CONTINUE Helms' record:

And don't tell me only "moderate" Republicans can win in N.C. On the contrary, in the last twenty years or so, the only Republicans who won there were conservatives (Helms, Faircloth, East, etc.) Parker has money, charisma, intelligence, and most of all, conservativism. Vote for Parker, NOT Dole.

[Nix 2]

It's odd. Very odd... that the Pubs wouldn't back a REAL conservative from NC. Why, I don't pretend to know. But I DO know that if Helms had his constuents at heart, he couldn't do this. And if the RNC deigns to give a REAL Republican the money and backing to get his vote out, then we should complain NOW, loud and long, to the RNC to which we gave our hardwon bucks.

[BillyBoy]

FAQ for Jim Parker, Republican candidate for U.S. Senator from North Carolina:

What is your message to Elizabeth Dole supporters?

People who currently support Mrs. Dole may not completely understand her vulnerabilities.

It is a sure bet that if Mrs. Dole wins in the primary, Democrats will relentlessly exploit any weakness and it very well may give them a big victory in November 2002.

Her main weaknesses as I see them are:
1) She has not been a resident or taxpayer of North Carolina for over forty years.
2) She is neither an economic nor a social conservative.
3) She either avoids discussion of, or flip-flops on, important issues.

I understand, but challenge the decision of Washington, D.C. GOP strategists to handpick her for the Republican Senate candidacy. She is a nice lady and she has great name recognition. But I believe Party leaders intent on regaining control of the Senate have underestimated North Carolinians who will recognize her true nature as a liberal Washington insider who has reached great heights of power in both Democrat and Republican Administrations without ever being elected to public office or wavering from her liberal beliefs.

Ronald Reagan wrote: "A political party is a mechanical structure created to further a cause. The cause, not the mechanism, brings and holds the members together."

The decision of GOP leaders to back Elizabeth Dole demonstrates they are neglecting the conservative "cause" in favor of "star power". When you stray from the Cause, you divide our Party members and hand victory to our opponents.

Elizabeth Hanford (Dole) was a Democrat working in Washington, D.C. during the heyday of Lyndon B. Johnson's "Great Society" programs. She started her career working for the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare in 1965. In 1968 she landed a job inside LBJ's White House, in the Office of Consumer Affairs. When Richard Nixon took over the White House, she switched her party affiliation from Democrat to Independent. In 1975, she switched parties again. Marrying Bob Dole, she became a Republican. She has since been a resident of Kansas until beginning her campaign to be a U.S. Senator representing North Carolina.

Dole's personal political beliefs remained a mystery to the public-at-large until she ran for President of the United States in 1999. Even while the liberal media praised her for being a "moderate" Republican, she convinced conservatives her liberal stripes had not faded during the years she wore the Republican label. That is possibly the main reason she plunged from her leading position in the polls early in the Presidential Primary campaign and another reason she won't win in North Carolina.

Michelle Malkin of the Washington Times summarized Elizabeth Dole's Senate Campaign when she wrote: "She has no ideas, no issues and no motivating principles except the eternal preservation of her political viability. Instead, she and Republican strategists in Washington are relying on her personality, chromosomes, celebrity status and ideological squishiness to vault her to victory.
On guns, she has echoed Mrs. Clinton's call for a ban on semi-automatic firearms, restrictions on ammunition and mandatory trigger locks. Mrs. Dole sides with Sarah Brady in opposing laws allowing citizens to carry concealed weapons. On abortion, she is an artful dodger. Although she has claimed (rather briskly) on a few occasions that she is "pro-life," she repeatedly evaded questions on her position during her failed presidential bid. On affirmative action, she earned cheers from the left for championing 10 percent set-aside contracts for minorities during her tenure as Ronald Reagan's Transportation secretary and for declaring a jihad against the purported "glass ceiling" for women in the corporate world while serving as the first President Bush's Labor secretary... She championed a federal ban on drinking alcohol for adults up to 24 years old. And she supported one of the biggest wastes of taxpayer dollars, the federal Job Training Partnership Act. Some members of the Republican establishment argue that Mrs. Dole's star power and "moderate" makeup make her a perfect candidate at a time when the party needs every Republican it can get in its uphill battle to recapture the Senate majority. But Mrs. Dole's Beltway backers should be careful what they wish for, lest they end up with Jim Jeffords in a skirt"

[Deport Billary]

The Democratic areas of western NC are few and far between. The Cherokee are very poor and provide a split in Swain and Jackson counties. Asheville and Boone are full of hippies; the rest of Bucombe and Watauga counties are conservative. Charlotte/Meck and Guilford are evenly split due to the high black population and some northeastern types. In all other areas the white vote is 75% Republican.

The eastern part of the state is a different story. The only Republican enclaves are Pinehurst, Johnston County, and the military sites in Wayne and Onslow. The communists have completely taken over the triangle! Gore won around 60% of the white vote in Orange county and 50% of it in Durham, and while Bush scored a victory in Wake this place is reliably Democratic otherwise. The black voting base is huge nearly everywhere, aside from Johnston County and areas right along the coast. Some of the VA border regions have a majority black population (Eva Claytonland). A conservative running in Fayetteville and south might as well forget about it - most residents are dirt poor including the farmers and the Lumbees in Robeson Co. Still, Jesse Helms' populist image appealed to the small towners in the east and the military types were especially fond of him. These are the people who elected him every time - all of the large counties went for Gantt.

While she will never be another Helms I will gladly take Libby Dole over the clintonite. The thought of a Democrapic sweep is too much to bear!