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1 posted on 01/21/2002 6:04:57 AM PST by Arkle
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To: Arkle
It was filed at a US District Court in Los Angeles...

I'll bet that this is one of the most liberal, leftist, America hating judges in the U.S. Any takers?

4 posted on 01/21/2002 6:09:47 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants
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To: Arkle
The action is backed by former Attorney General Ramsey Clark and other civil rights advocates.

If Bin Ladin himself were captured, anti-American Ramsey Clark would be championing his innocence, and even perhaps attempting to organize a DC-based Bin Ladin memorial fountain.

6 posted on 01/21/2002 6:10:59 AM PST by Lazamataz
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Hmmmmm....maybe we need JeffHead to start another on-line petition....
8 posted on 01/21/2002 6:12:30 AM PST by DJ88
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Uh oh, it looks like there's a pack of rabid Socialist-Democrats on the loose in Los Angeles. The prison at Guantanamo is going to need to be expanded 10 fold.
9 posted on 01/21/2002 6:12:55 AM PST by hauerf
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To: Arkle
The judge doesn't have jurisdiction. That makes the second question as to whether they have standing moot.
11 posted on 01/21/2002 6:16:20 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: Arkle
Civil rights advocates file a lawsuit in LA la land, California, to lobby for the release of al Qaeda prisoners, who happened to have been caught in the act of trying to kill Americans. Says it all.
12 posted on 01/21/2002 6:16:31 AM PST by cake_crumb
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To: Arkle
Could it be the same judge that ruled on Freerepublic ?

No doubt they judge shopped before filing this petition so I have little doubt this judge will rule he has jurisdiction over al-Qaida suspects and rules they must be released.

13 posted on 01/21/2002 6:18:15 AM PST by VRWC_minion
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Anybody know what powers the courts have over the military on foreign soil? None, I'm guessing. I'm trying to think where that might be covered.
14 posted on 01/21/2002 6:18:33 AM PST by Ratatoskr
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how do people like this survive in America....I say take old lying CIA Ramsey out to the cells and leave him there
17 posted on 01/21/2002 6:21:34 AM PST by The Wizard
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To: Arkle
Ramsey Clark

and his pet (why is the action in California?) judge should be told that what happens to al-Qaida suspects outside the U.S. is none of the judge's business.

For if it is, the judge is in charge of the U.S. military and can require it to, for example, vacate Afghanistan . . .

18 posted on 01/21/2002 6:24:12 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: Arkle
The action is backed by former Attorney General Ramsey Clark and other civil rights advocates.

Baloney. The man is pro-terrorist, anti-American:

This from Salon in 1999:

Ramsey Clark, the war criminal's best friend

The former U.S. attorney general has become the tool of left-wing cultists who defend Slobodan Milosevic, Saddam Hussein and Rwandan torturers as anti-imperialist heroes.

By Ian Williams

June 21, 1999 | In the most morbidly literal way, NATO forces are "sniffing out" more mass graves than alliance spokesman Jamie Shea ever suspected. Dog-eaten sticks of bone poke from putrescent pits on television screens. So it is not surprising that on July 31 New York will see the opening of a commission of inquiry for an international war crimes tribunal. What may surprise some is that its target is NATO's war crimes.

Those who know him will be less surprised that the inspiration for this circus is former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark, whom one long-standing colleague described as "a good man gone ga-ga -- at least 25 years ago." Many liberals and leftists cut Clark a considerable degree of slack. For a start he is almost the only person the American left has had in high public office since World War II, even if it was a retrospective success, since his long march leftward only began afterward. His views as the former attorney general are listened to with a respect that would be accorded to few others with such eccentric opinions. As a revered spokesman of the left, he is a perfect symbol for its near-impotence in American politics today.

Everyone who has dealings with Clark uses the word "nice" to describe him. But he often sides with people whom no one with a full deck would call nice. (Clark did not respond to a Salon News interview request.) Many former friends, more in sorrow than in anger, trace his present positions to the company he keeps: the International Action Center, which proclaims him its founder but seems entirely in the thrall of an obscure Trotskyist sect, the Workers World Party. Whoever writes his scripts, there is little doubt what Ramsey Clark is against now -- any manifestation of the power of the state he once served at the height of the Vietnam War.

At the end of 1998 Clark attended a human rights conference in Baghdad, Iraq, where in his keynote speech he pointed out how "the governments of the rich nations, primarily the United States, England and France," dominated the wording of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which showed "little concern for economic, social and cultural rights." The social and cultural rights claimed by his Iraqi hosts include the right to hang opponents in public at the airport, or poison thousands of Kurds and torture and execute any opponent of the regime. And on the legality of Iraq's invasion of Kuwait, the silence is deafening.

19 posted on 01/21/2002 6:24:15 AM PST by aculeus
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To: Arkle
The judge will have to decide whether a US District Court, which typically is restricted to a geographical area, has jurisdiction over prisoners held in Cuban territory leased to the American government.

When I was stationed at GTMO, it was my understanding that, if a civilian contract worker commited a crime against another civilian contract worker, the jurisdiction would fall to the civilian courts in Norfolk, Virginia.

Regardless of the issue of whether a civilian court has jurisdiction over the detention of unlawful combatants, the jurisdiction would definitely not fall to a California court.

20 posted on 01/21/2002 6:24:44 AM PST by Polybius
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To: Arkle
This was already posted to breaking news here. Earlier thread.

Not your fault. Annanova changed the headline and the first few sentences.

Thread locked, please continue discussion on the existing thread.

22 posted on 01/21/2002 6:30:07 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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