by Justin Davenport Crime Correspondent
Posted on 01/18/2002 7:27:36 AM PST by white trash redneck
Armour for north London police
by Justin Davenport Crime Correspondent
Scotland Yard has ordered police in north London to wear bullet-proof vests at all times because of soaring gun crime - the first time such an order has been made in mainland Britain.
Officers in Haringey have been told protective armour should be worn on the streets even on routine patrols after a dramatic rise in the number of firearms offences.
In the past 12 weeks there were 300 emergency calls in Haringey in relation to alleged firearms, 109 of these resulted in evidence of guns being used or seen.
Bob Elder, chairman of the Police Federation's constables' branch, who is based at Haringey, said: "My colleagues are increasingly worried. In Haringey there are 999 calls about firearms activity on an almost daily basis.
"There is a heightened awareness of firearms issues in boroughs such as Haringey and Hackney and there is now a directive that officers should wear body armour on operational duty as a health and safety issue.
"We have pretty strong gun laws in this country but they do not seem to be having any effect."
At present, officers in the Met are not obliged to wear body armour except at times of greater risk. In practice more and more officers are opting to wear it.
The news comes as police seized a deadly Mac 10 submachine gun and uncovered a firearms factory in Haringey at the weekend.
The US-made Mac 10, capable of firing 20 rounds a second, was seized in a raid on a flat in Bounds Green. Police also found 100 rounds of ammunition. Two men aged 21 have been charged with firearms offences.
In a separate operation police found what they described as a firearms "reactivation" factory in Tottenham. In a flat in Ingleborough Court police found vices, metal gun barrels and other weapons-making paraphernalia.
Haringey police are working closely with the Operation Trident squad which investigates gangsters in the crack cocaine trade.
Borough police commander Stephen James said: "I am delighted by the success of these operations, which have disrupted the access to firearms by criminals. I know the use and recovery of firearms in London is now almost routine."
Well, Tony my friend, I guess that made me a member of the "Brown Stetsons" when I worked for the Sheriff's Office as a deputy. Just joking. I've seen some writeups on some of the armed squads over there and there are some good shooters.
Keep your powder dry.
Cheers Tony
Does no one understand what this meant.
re : But lets turn this around, lets say that instead of a revolution you left the empire peacefully, lets say you never had the second amendment, and you never had a need for guns before just like Britain.
I am not talking about the sodding revolution I am trying to get people to think sideways or laterally.
I know most here are civvies and very few of you have ever worked in Intelligence but sideways think is as natural as ordinary thinking, well it is to me.
The gist of my argument is, that any government faced with a NEW threat , a NEW threat , I will say it once more a , a NEW threat. Will react by trying to eliminate that threat hence the Gun Ban.
The only good thing is that all this debating with American freepers is giving me great experience for when I have to argue with my own children when they are teenagers.
Having to make the same point over and over again, dealing with stubborn people who disagree with you but when you are not explaining what you believe in, but instead are relating facts as to how a situation came about. Trying to get them to understand another point of view outside there own box
LOL my kids will have no chance Cheers Tony
Yes and how many times have I used that very argument, where there is a demand there will be always a supply.
That is why I am against the Gun Ban and the War on Drugs.
Cheers Tony
Does no one understand what this meant.
re : But lets turn this around, lets say that instead of a revolution you left the empire peacefully, lets say you never had the second amendment, and you never had a need for guns before just like Britain.
I understood perfectly. What if Britain had "let the Colonies go" peacefully. There was still the frontier.
I am not talking about the sodding revolution I am trying to get people to think sideways or laterally.
I know most here are civvies and very few of you have ever worked in Intelligence but sideways think is as natural as ordinary thinking, well it is to me.
Here at Conspiracy Central, we're being accused of rectalinear thought... That's rich.
The gist of my argument is, that any government faced with a NEW threat , a NEW threat , I will say it once more a , a NEW threat. Will react by trying to eliminate that threat hence the Gun Ban.
There is nothing new under the sun. Government repression DOES need an excuse in "civilized" society.
The only good thing is that all this debating with American freepers is giving me great experience for when I have to argue with my own children when they are teenagers.
Having to make the same point over and over again, dealing with stubborn people who disagree with you but when you are not explaining what you believe in, but instead are relating facts as to how a situation came about. Trying to get them to understand another point of view outside there own box
I got it the first time.
LOL my kids will have no chance Cheers Tony
Your kids will eat your lunch. You'll sound like a nagger, because your kids WILL see and understand your point of view and reject it utterly.
If only Britain still ruled the world, they could ban guns globally.
Well when America rules the world we can have guns for all.
Although I guess the same gun ownership rights might not apply in the provinces.
Cheers Tony
Sorry. We don't want the headache. Y'all want freedom, fight for it. You have the government you're willing to tollerate.
(us, too; dangit)
LOL I am sorry but I think your headache is just beginning.
US military seeks deeper roots in Pakistan http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/621362/posts
After 50 yrs, India poised to get US combat systems http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/620742/posts.
Cheers Tony
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