Those of us near the People's Republic of Madison (250,000 people surrounded by reality) need some help with this poll. Abortion is the subject of the dispute, but the issue also reveals the liberal's opposition to free political speech. The poll is currently running 77% AGAINST permitting the protest of abortion using pictures of aborted fetuses.
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To: Ronaldus Magnus
What are abortoinists afraid or ashamed of? Heck, it's how they make a killing (um, no pun intended). Certainly seems this guy is only giving them free advertising.
To: *Abortion_list; *Pro_life; patent; notwithstanding
Your help with this small poll would be greatly appreciated.
To: Ronaldus Magnus
I think the use of photos of aborted fetuses is offensive and probably counter-productive. Nobody wants to see them, and most wish the people who put them up would go away forever.
4 posted on
01/15/2002 7:35:13 PM PST by
Dog Gone
To: Ronaldus Magnus
To the Left, the First Amendment only protects THEIR speech. As is the case for all Liberals (and other Fascists), they don't have to obey the rules when they don't want to ...
5 posted on
01/15/2002 7:35:14 PM PST by
jimkress
To: Ronaldus Magnus
I guess free speech is only for liberals, huh?
6 posted on
01/15/2002 7:35:30 PM PST by
GeronL
To: Ronaldus Magnus
done
To: Ronaldus Magnus
Ovadal and other church members were cited earlier last year for placing literature on parked cars in Monroe that was critical of Congresswoman Tammy Baldwin and for displaying signs in a grassy area along side Highway 69 in Monroe. And of course those same council members will also ban election signs and phamplets in the same places. Yea, Right.
12 posted on
01/15/2002 7:44:46 PM PST by
BJungNan
To: Ronaldus Magnus
New born babies are much more attractive than aborted fetuses. Pity there aren't more of them.
14 posted on
01/15/2002 7:46:56 PM PST by
dano1
To: Ronaldus Magnus
Ovadal and his followers had taken their large signs to the city's business square where Planned Parenthood has an office. Does anyone have any pics so we can see just how big the signs are that they are talking about?
15 posted on
01/15/2002 7:47:11 PM PST by
BJungNan
To: Ronaldus Magnus
Bump, freeped. Not looking too good right now.
To: marylina; homeschool mama;Dr. Good Will Hunting; ArGee;JMJ333;Khepera
Vote, if you will please.
To: Ronaldus Magnus
Voted and bumped.
To: Ronaldus Magnus
This is what were up against,click on link for more quotes:
Part One: Informed Consent Why do we need laws about informed consent? Don't abortion clinics give accurate information to the women seeking abortion?
"It is when I am holding a plastic uterus in one hand, a suction tube in the other, moving them together in imitation of the scrubbing to come, that woman ask the most secret question. I am speaking in a matter-of-fact voice about 'the tissue' and 'the contents' when the woman suddenly catches my eye and says 'How big is the baby now?' These words suggest a quiet need for definition of the boundaries being drawn. It isn't so odd, after all, that she feels relief when I describe the growing buds bulbous shape, its miniature nature. Again, I gauge, and sometimes lie a little, weaseling around its infantile features until its clinging power slackens."
abortion worker Sallie Tisdale "We Do Abortions Here" Oct 1987 Harpers Magazine p 68
"In my facilities, I always gave option counseling. Of course you make the abortion the most appealing. I told them about adoption and about foster care and about [when there was welfare] assistance. The typical way it would go is, "Well, you know you can place your baby out for adoption." But then, in the second breath you would say, "That's an option available to you, but you also have to realize that there's going to be a baby of yours out here somewhere in the world you will never see again. At least with abortion you know what's happening. You can go on with your life...The longer I was in it, the less I cared, so I really didn't really care what my conscience said. My conscience was totally numb anyway. But what it did do was public relations-wise. You were able, when a reporter or TV crew came, to pull out a packet of information for the patients to read and they received it. So what can anybody say? Publicly it looked good -- in reality it was another tool that was used to force a woman into abortion. It's typical -- I would give them an option and then shoot it down. The only option you didn't shoot down, obviously, was abortion."
Former clinic owner Eric Harrah quoted by Dr. Jack Willke and Brad Mattes
31 posted on
01/15/2002 8:22:14 PM PST by
mdittmar
To: Ronaldus Magnus
Meanwhile your tax dollars support crap covered paintings, crosses in urine and a whole Host of other disgusting things..
But you had better NEVER print what we do to unborn children.. That's beyond the pale and cannot be tolerated.
The damage we do must remain secret, lest people become aware of the devistation.
34 posted on
01/15/2002 8:29:52 PM PST by
Jhoffa_
To: Ronaldus Magnus
Voted.
On a side note, is Ovedale the same guy freaking out about nudity on beaches?
To: Ronaldus Magnus
We're gaining ground:
Yes 166 40%
No 245 60%
To: Ronaldus Magnus
The power of a photo of an aborted fetus is awesome. Nothing gets people more riled up, whether they are for abortion or not. People who are in favor of every sort of violence and filth being readily accessible to the masses break their own rules when it comes to the sight of disembodied healthy babies -- something that, in most cases, they don't have a problem with as long as they don't have to see the truth.
...And that's what those pictures are -- the truth.
Think about it.
To: Ronaldus Magnus
Keep freeping it.
Should Ovadal be able to protest abortion using large pictures of aborted fetuses?
Choice Votes Percent of 427 votes
Yes 179 42%
No 248 58%
They really want to have their cake and eat it too, don't they. Have abortions, but not permits anti-abortion photos to be used in advertisements.
To: Ronaldus Magnus
Should Ovadal be able to protest abortion using large pictures of aborted fetuses? |
Choice |
Votes |
Percent of 438 votes |
Yes |
188 |
43% |
No |
250 |
57% |
Thanks for participating. Please check back for results. |
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To: Ronaldus Magnus
There's now a 51 vote difference....
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