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Freepers, I want to talk to you all about the statue. I agree with you all depiction the statue with multiracial characters is wrong and politically correct. I, however, have something to tell you all that you will not like.

You all are right to be upset. To change the depiction to a multi-racial depiction is wrong and racist. But I think you all should let this go. I will strongly advise not to do anything. Why? Because you all will be looked upon as racist if you seek either to change or remove the statue. On Black Voices, many blacks are calling you all “peckerwoods” and racist “yts” because you all can't stand diversity. I did attack the statue for being politically correct on post. I don't want any type of race problem in America to boil over. God Himself knows America has greatly benefited for the patriotism that OBL help create.

I want to tell you all this. The world many you known 40-60 years ago are gone and can't come back. We live in a radical multiracial-cultural America and it can't be stopped for progressing further as such. Diversity is now the norm. Diversity is the popular view of the new millennium. California is the future of America racially. You all saw the pro-multi-racial commercials with non-whites proclaiming their American-ness. Businesses know they can get paid promoting diversity. Many of your descendants in the future will not look Anglo or European any way. You all have 48 years left for being the dominant group. Buchanan is telling you all the truth. Every black American knows your time, as the main group will be up. More diversification of white history will continue. There is nothing that you all can do to stop it. If you do try to stop it… well, I think you all know what the government will do to you if you oppose.

1 posted on 01/14/2002 2:12:20 PM PST by AMMON-CENTRIST (ammonrae@hotmail.com)
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To: AMMON-CENTRIST
It's simple. If they want to make a politically correct statue then make something original. If they are going to use that photo, then be true to history.
94 posted on 01/14/2002 3:09:58 PM PST by gaucho
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To: AMMON-CENTRIST
Give me a break. That somebody will call you a name for standing up to the truth is a given.

In fact this doesn't have to be racial at all. It's not about race it's about the truth. If I recall correctly not all of those who erected the flag were firemen.

Were there any women? Does the new statue include women? If so why not? How about children? Are there any Jews or Muslims in the Statue? Christians? Where does such madness stop?

98 posted on 01/14/2002 3:14:23 PM PST by Demidog
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To: AMMON-CENTRIST
On Black Voices, many blacks are calling you all “peckerwoods” and racist “yts” because you all can't stand diversity.

That's what you call a "show stopper," isn't it? We say something, they say we're racist and that's suppose to be the end of the discussion, right?

I don't want any type of race problem in America to boil over.

If, and that's a big if, if it boils over, it will be because THEY want it to.

Are you saying that we should DENY THE TRUTH just so those fools won't call us bigots?

I am not afraid of diversity. THEY are afraid of the truth.

110 posted on 01/14/2002 3:30:18 PM PST by Howlin
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To: AMMON-CENTRIST
Jeez! Get a life!
111 posted on 01/14/2002 3:34:03 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: AMMON-CENTRIST
I want to tell you all this. The world many you known 40-60 years ago are gone and can't come back. We live in a radical multiracial-cultural America and it can't be stopped for progressing further as such. Diversity is now the norm. Diversity is the popular view of the new millennium. California is the future of America racially. You all saw the pro-multi-racial commercials with non-whites proclaiming their American-ness. Businesses know they can get paid promoting diversity. Many of your descendants in the future will not look Anglo or European any way. You all have 48 years left for being the dominant group. Buchanan is telling you all the truth. Every black American knows your time, as the main group will be up. More diversification of white history will continue. There is nothing that you all can do to stop it. If you do try to stop it… well, I think you all know what the government will do to you if you oppose.

This is crap, of course. I do not have to accept someone else's version of history just to please them. If they call me a racist, so be it. But that's how the Soviets and the Nazis twisted history: by way of the airbrushed photograph and the historic lie.

The Government that you are so afraid of is problematic, to be sure, but I will bet that this is going to be such a stinkeroo that the city and state authorities will run from this in a New York minute, so to speak.

I am not afraid of a multiracial America. That is where we are headed, and as long as the Constitution and faith in God is our lodestar, then we shall be all right. If black posters on Black World are calling us "peckerwoods", that's their problem. I do not need their approval of my opinion to stand against a historic lie.

Fear the government if you wish. Fear the opinions of the race-baiters and the liberal fascists if you so desire. Just don't come here and demand that we do.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

118 posted on 01/14/2002 3:45:01 PM PST by section9
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To: AMMON-CENTRIST
This forced diversity is very bogus. If the people were not in the photo, so be it. The photo wasn't staged, not a photo op. It was only adopted for a statue because of it's artistic quality, no offense was intentional. To even get upset over this photo is ridiculous. It would be like getting upset over a high school's history book because they don't show in their paintings or photos enough other races and then complain about it.
119 posted on 01/14/2002 3:48:56 PM PST by CMLADDER
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To: AMMON-CENTRIST
If you can't beat 'em, dilute 'em.

In 50 years of intermarraige and sharing of basic principles on which stable families are founded, and there will still be stable families in 50 years, the battlelines will still be the same, Good (Conservistism) against Evil (liberalism).

The biggest difference is that you'll have larger numbers of Spanish, Asian and Potpourri alongs with whites fighting for good.

As for me, all that diversity meant is I had to learn more language to date more babes in South Florida. It's no reason to rewrite history and insult the memory of a special moment with the idiocy of liberal propaganda.

I believe that approximately 75% percent of the population composing of all racial groups agree to this. You're spending too much time around idiot liberals. Spend more time here and try to decontaminate yourself.

121 posted on 01/14/2002 3:51:09 PM PST by Caipirabob
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I think this is a more appropiate statue to be built, and they can mix the races, that's what I tried to do, make a Black fireman, White Soldier, and neutral Cop. I do need better colors to make a negro person's skin color, this was just Paintbrush.

122 posted on 01/14/2002 3:52:36 PM PST by RaceBannon
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To: AMMON-CENTRIST
Don't ever, ever presume to tell me what to believe. Get lost slappy.
123 posted on 01/14/2002 3:53:00 PM PST by Darheel
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To: AMMON-CENTRIST
This is the same old BS logic that is used to shove ALL the so-called FREE TRADE bureaucracies, UN involvement, Global conferences etc. etc. ad nauseum.
The argument is that "THIS IS HOW IT IS, AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT, SO JUST ACCEPT IT."
But the truth is that NOTHING is certain or inevitable.
And it goes without saying that nothing should be accepted just because someone uses a psychological assault weapon such as " It's going to happen anyway, and there's nothing you can do about it."
The truth is that it's NOT at all certain that Americans will continue to allow any immigrant that wants to come in to our country to do so. It's also not true that Americans will not rise up and demand deportation of illegals in this country.
Your logic is non-existent and your argument is being seen through by more and more Americans.
As a wise man once said: "A pessimist is a person who knows it all. An optimist is a person who believes the truth is uncertain, and so keeps going."
127 posted on 01/14/2002 4:03:07 PM PST by BigWest
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To: AMMON-CENTRIST
As Mayor Giuliana stated:

"When firefighters run into a burning building, they don't stop to wonder whether the people inside are rich or poor, what race they are, or what religion they practice."

Too bad the same can't be said about those who comissioned this statue.

130 posted on 01/14/2002 4:13:08 PM PST by fellowpatriot
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To: AMMON-CENTRIST
Listen carefully. SHUT UP!
134 posted on 01/14/2002 4:18:01 PM PST by Diojneez
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IT REALLY DOES NOT MATTER IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS. THE BIGGEST JOKE ABOUT THIS WHOLE P.C. THING IS THAT WE END UP FIGHTING OVER THE MOST TRIVIAL BS, TRULY THE MOST UNIMPORTANT FACTS AND ISSUES THAT WE CAN FIND. THE GUY WHO TOOK THE TROPHY PICTURE SHOULD COPYWRITE IT, AND REFUSE TO ALLOW IT TO BECOME A STATUE. THE STATUE SHOULD HAVE PEOPLE WITH FEATURELESS FACES, BECAUSE THE STATUE/PICTURE IS ABOUT "THREE AMERICAN MEN RAISING THE FLAG" NOT ABOUT "THREE WHITE AMERICANS RAISING THE FLAG". WHO REALLY GIVES A SHEET ABOUT SUCH "STUPID" DETAILS.
141 posted on 01/14/2002 4:22:38 PM PST by LandofLincoln
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To: AMMON-CENTRIST
You all have 48 years left for being the dominant group.

If this is how we are treated when we are "dominant", it does not take much imagination to figure out what is in store for us when we are no longer "dominant".

BTW, I'm still looking for some of this "white priviledge" I am supposed to be a beneficiary of. It seems to me either we "racists" have gotten gyped, or maybe this talk of "racism" and "white dominance" was nothing but a crock of sh!t to begin with.

144 posted on 01/14/2002 4:28:58 PM PST by Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
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To: AMMON-CENTRIST
If someone thinks that the opposition to this statue is due to racism, then the problem is theirs and they need to get the chip off their shoulder. This has nothing to do with race. It has everything to do with depicting an historical event accurately. Sheesh.
145 posted on 01/14/2002 4:29:13 PM PST by CheneyChick
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To: AMMON-CENTRIST
You are wrong! Your logic is wrong! Your rationale is wrong! Maybe we should change the Iwo Jima statue, huh?
149 posted on 01/14/2002 4:35:25 PM PST by woody9
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To: AMMON-CENTRIST
To change the depiction to a multi-racial depiction is wrong and racist. But I think you all should let this go. I will strongly advise not to do anything. Why? Because you all will be looked upon as racist if you seek either to change or remove the statue.

"Racist" used to mean "lies about the inferiority (usually in terms of morality, competency, or intelligence) of ethnic or religious minorities." Nowadays, you can say something 100% True and still be labeled a racist. Well, go ahead, call me a racist, I don't care.

Maybe we should abandon the tax cut, because poor Democrats will call us greedy capitalist oppressors! Maybe we shouldn't have invaded Afghanistan, because Muslims around the world were calling us "crusaders." Or maybe what you're saying is worthless.

155 posted on 01/14/2002 4:44:10 PM PST by xm177e2
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Many of your descendants in the future will not look Anglo or European any way.

And the firemen in the statue don't even "look white," they'll be BRONZE-COLORED.

157 posted on 01/14/2002 4:45:27 PM PST by xm177e2
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To: AMMON-CENTRIST
I, however, have something to tell you all that you will not like.

You're right. I didn't like it.

159 posted on 01/14/2002 4:46:09 PM PST by DoctorMichael
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To: AMMON-CENTRIST

Thanks, I think you are correct. If it were three black FF's I wouldn't want them altered either, in any way, shape or form.. Even if it isn't "diverse"

So what? Why should we be concerned in the least about the bigoted, ignorant ravings of a few JJ wanna bees?

Honestly, if we were talking about changing a statue of three black guy's to make it more "diverse' those same morons would still be complaining.

You simply can't make these people happy Ammon.. So why try?


162 posted on 01/14/2002 4:52:00 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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