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Curb on tech exports eased (Bush eases supercomputer export restrictions)
Washington Times ^
| 1/3/01
| Joseph Curl
Posted on 01/03/2002 7:49:12 AM PST by truthandlife
Edited on 07/12/2004 3:50:23 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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President Bush yesterday more than doubled the limit on the speed of supercomputers that U.S. companies can sell to such countries as China, Pakistan and India, a move critics said endangers U.S. security and puts American troops at risk.
Under the new guidelines, U.S. producers of supercomputers can export hardware capable of running at 190,000 millions of theoretical operations per second without notifying the federal government. The current cap is 85,000 MTOPS.
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Is this a good thing? Weren't we complaining about Clinton doing the same thing?
Comment #2 Removed by Moderator
To: truthandlife
"These reforms are needed due to the rapid rate of technological change in the computer industry. Single microprocessors available today - by mail order and the Internet - perform at more than 25 times the speed of supercomputers built in the early 1990s," said White House Deputy Press Secretary Scott McClellan.
So because you can buy faster stuff on the street we should ease exports of supercomputers? Sorry that doesn't fly and endangers our country. Seems to be to be a subsidy through to the supercomputer manufacturers.
If they can get faster computers on the street (like a linux cluster) they why do they need to get a super one in the first place?
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posted on
01/03/2002 8:24:07 AM PST
by
lelio
To: truthandlife
"The president's decision will promote national security, enhance the effectiveness of our export-control system and ease unnecessary regulatory burdens on both government and industry," the White House said in a fact sheet released yesterday. I thought that traitor Clinton was out of office.
To: truthandlife
He did the right thing. MTOPS means nothing when it relates to hardware. A Beowulf Cluster can be constructed from old 486 machines and rival super computers for speed. The comerence dept. is way behind the eight ball on thecnology. Check out this site for Beowulf Clusters.... http://cnls.lanl.gov/avalon/
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posted on
01/03/2002 8:27:23 AM PST
by
babygene
To: truthandlife
It's a sell out! No question about it.
Good-bye cowardly gop, I guess I'll go back to being without a political party...again.
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posted on
01/03/2002 9:05:37 AM PST
by
jungleboy
To: truthandlife
Wow.
I expected to see several posts explaining why when Bush does it, its different from when Clinton did it.
Amazing.
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posted on
01/03/2002 9:20:30 AM PST
by
Nephi
To: truthandlife
We have a lot of legacy code written that runs on 'supercomputers' this is a play to keep these companies afloat. The technology has passed these machines by. If the Chicoms invest big bucks in obsolete technology that is their problem. The machines are no longer supercomputers.
In truth the type of weapon designs done through the mid 80's can be done by a run of the mill PC. IT has more storage, memory and a faster cpu than the boxes used to design hbombs in the 80's.
Encryption may be another issue. Don't know enough. Doubt the NSA or Rummy would let the Chicoms get ahold of tech that would let them break our encryption.
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posted on
01/03/2002 9:42:20 AM PST
by
Leto
To: lelio
We've developed code over the past 30-40 years to run on these machines. It cheaper to buy multimillion dollar boxes to run the old code, than rewrite the code to run on cheaper boxes.
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posted on
01/03/2002 9:44:08 AM PST
by
Leto
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posted on
01/03/2002 10:04:52 AM PST
by
batter
To: backhoe; Sawdring; ratcat; Enemy Of The State; piasa
FYI
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posted on
01/03/2002 10:06:48 AM PST
by
batter
To: Nephi
I don't think there is much excuse for this besides "if we don't do it, other counties will". Unfortunately, I don't buy that excuse. IMO, Bush has made a very bad decision on this one.
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posted on
01/03/2002 10:11:06 AM PST
by
batter
To: jungleboy
If you want, you can hang out
here . It may be a little better than being without a political party at all, depending on your point of view.
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posted on
01/03/2002 10:44:46 AM PST
by
Jason_b
To: Nephi
No comparison to what Clinton did. First, the People's Republic of China bribed Clinton to ease export controls. Secondly, the technology has advanced to the point where countries can build Cray type machines with off the shelf parts. Saddam is rumored to have purchased hundreds of Sony Playstation 2's to do just that. And controls are still in place for higher power machines. Banning the export of under 190,000 MTOPS makes as much sense as banning handguns. Anyone who wants one can get one no matter what the law is. In fact, the clusters are one tenth to one third the cost of a mainframe and the operating system, Linux, is free. Think China is going to pay the big bucks for a Cray? I don't. They'll build their own.
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posted on
01/03/2002 11:34:39 AM PST
by
batter
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To: babygene
Yep you are right. Technophobes should not comment about tech exports.
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posted on
01/03/2002 12:33:45 PM PST
by
weikel
To: soccer8
Are you a computer expert, programmer, electrical engineer, hacker? Bush made the right decision this will not improve the Chicoms military capability they already got lots of computers back when X42 was in office and can make the chips themselves. The ignorant Islamics can't use computers beyond a basic level and they also have them anyway.
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posted on
01/03/2002 12:39:27 PM PST
by
weikel
To: soccer8
There is no use fighting about this. Computer control is about like gun control. It does not work. The whole thing is a facade to pretend like we can control what is going on. Its about like having a gun that is loaded with blanks.
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posted on
01/03/2002 1:15:35 PM PST
by
super175
To: soccer8
BUMP
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