India, Pakistan prepare nukes, troops for war

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[GulliverSwift]

The most alarming signs are preparations in both states for the use of nuclear-tipped missiles.

Intelligence agencies have learned of indications that India is getting its short-range Prithvi ballistic missiles ready for use. The missiles are within range of the Pakistani capital, Islamabad, Gertz reports in Monday's WASH TIMES... MORE...

Meanwhile, Pakistan is mobilizing its Chinese-made mobile M-11 missiles, also known as the Shaheen, which have been readied for movement from a base near Sargodha, Pakistan.

[Justa]

Oh, I don't know. Not much we can do about it anyways. Karma and all.

I think war by Wednesday and nukes 4 days later. I don't think either side has many weapons in the megaton range as most of their delivery systems are tactical (battlefield). That would put them in the range of 50-250Kt. If they do use them I suspect they'll restrict them to the tactical ones so hopefully that means population centers won't be attacked.

What can you do, one side wants their virgins and the other one wants to cycle into their next life?

[eastforker]

I see you have exausted your ability to carry on any conversation.

[ladyinred]

LOL, You are wicked!

I know the tune BTW!

[sarasmom]

LOL-what do you mean"start stockpiling"? Left it a little late, huh?

[Justin Raimondo]

When Pakistan and India separated, in 1948 I believe it was, the UN held a peace conference on the Kashmir-Jammu question and both countries agreed to a plebiscite. India, however, has put off the vote -- for 50-plus years! Go to google.com and type in the words "Kashmir", "plebiscite," and the phrase "UN resolution." See for yourself.

[Justin Raimondo]

LOL!

[ChaseR]

*******"nothing you, me or anyone else here does or says can make a differance.*******

(Be Damn Brave - leave all the fretting to the handwringing mothers like mine!!)

[vooch]

go to www.antiwar.com and you'll see why Justin is not quick to respond (he has his Monday edition to hammer out)

[flamefront]

From world tribune via Drudge:

By Bill Gertz

THE WASHINGTON TIMESMonday, December 31, 2001

Pakistan and India are readying their military forces ? including their ballistic missiles and nuclear weapons ? for war, The Washington Times has learned.

U.S. intelligence officials say Pakistani military moves include large-scale troop movements, the dispersal of fighter aircraft and preparations for the transportation of nuclear weapons from storage sites.

India also is moving thousands of its troops near the border with Pakistan and has dispersed some aircraft to safer sites away from border airfields, say officials familiar with intelligence reports of the war moves.

But officials say the most alarming signs are preparations in both states for the use of nuclear-tipped missiles. Intelligence agencies have learned of indications that India is getting its short-range Prithvi ballistic missiles ready for use. The missiles are within range of the Pakistani capital, Islamabad.

Meanwhile, Pakistan is mobilizing its Chinese-made mobile M-11 missiles, also known as the Shaheen, which have been readied for movement from a base near Sargodha, Pakistan.

Intelligence reports indicate that India will have all its forces ready to launch an attack as early as this week, with Thursday or Friday as possible dates.

[duck soup]

And China's role? Whats up Justin, somewhere there was a default and in 1956 what happened?

Playing light weight towards China's slice of the pie when Pakistan gave up a share.

[sandonca]

India says it would survive a nuclear war and wipe out Pakistan. Is this what they mean by surviving?

The new map

[Iwentsouth]

The testing we did in the Marianas and Nevada along with Soviet testing is much more then India and Pakistan are capable of. Do not overestimate the power of there nukes.

[flamefront]

From Bill Gertz, WashTimes:

     U.S. intelligence officials say Pakistani military moves include large-scale troop movements, the dispersal of fighter aircraft and preparations for the transportation of nuclear weapons from storage sites.
     India also is moving thousands of its troops near the border with Pakistan and has dispersed some aircraft to safer sites away from border airfields, say officials familiar with intelligence reports of the war moves.
     Pakistan is moving the equivalent of two armored brigades ? several thousand troops and hundreds of tanks and armored vehicles ? near the northern part of its border with India.
     Indian and Pakistani troops exchanged heavy mortar fire over their border in southern Kashmir today, Agence France-Presse reported. Five Indian soldiers were seriously injured in the heaviest shelling in four months, a senior Indian army official said.
     More than 1,000 villagers were evacuated from their homes overnight for the operation, according to the report.
     Officials say the most alarming signs are preparations in both states for the use of nuclear-tipped missiles.
     Intelligence agencies have learned of indications that India is getting its short-range Prithvi ballistic missiles ready for use. The missiles are within range of the Pakistani capital, Islamabad.
     Meanwhile, Pakistan is mobilizing its Chinese-made mobile M-11 missiles, also known as the Shaheen, which have been readied for movement from a base near Sargodha, Pakistan.
     Intelligence reports indicate that India will have all its forces ready to launch an attack as early as this week, with Thursday or Friday as possible dates.
     Pakistan could launch its forces before those dates in a pre-emptive strike.
     Disclosure of the war preparations comes as President Bush on Saturday telephoned leaders of both nations, urging them to calm tensions, a sign of administration concern over the military moves in the region.
     The administration also fears that a conflict between India and Pakistan would undermine U.S. efforts to find terrorists in Afghanistan.
     U.S. military forces are heavily reliant on Pakistani government permission to conduct overflights for bombing and other aircraft operations into Afghanistan, primarily from aircraft carriers located in the Arabian Sea.
     With tensions growing between the states, U.S. intelligence officials are divided over the ultimate meaning of the indicators of an impending conflict.
     The Pentagon's Joint Staff intelligence division, known as J-2, late last week had assessed the danger of conflict at "critical" levels.
     Other joint intelligence centers outside the Pentagon, including those supporting the U.S. military forces responsible for the Asia-Pacific region and for Southwest Asia, assess the danger of an India-Pakistan war as less than critical but still "serious."
     Intelligence officials are especially worried about Pakistan's nuclear arsenal because control over the weapons is decentralized. Even before the latest moves, regional commanders could order the use of the weapons, which are based on missiles or fighter-bombers.
     The Prithvi has a range of about 155 miles, and the Indians are estimated to have some 75 Prithvis in their arsenal.
     They also are working on longer-range Agni missiles.
     U.S. intelligence officials believe India has about 60 nuclear weapons that can be delivered by missiles or aircraft.
     Its nuclear-capable aircraft include Russian-made bombers, including 10 Tu-142 Bears and four Tu-22M Backfires, as well as several hundred MiG-27, MiG-29 and Su-30 fighter-bombers.
     Pakistan's missile force consists of some 50 M-11s, which have a range of about 186 miles, enough to hit the Indian capital of New Delhi. Its medium-range Ghauri missiles have a range of about 800 miles, enough to hit most parts of India.
     U.S. intelligence agencies have obtained reconnaissance photographs from one Pakistani missile base that show storage-shed doors open in preparation for the movement of missiles. One of the photographs shows a line of 47 rail cars on a track near the base in preparation for the movement of missiles and their warheads.
     The private Natural Resources Defense Council estimates that Islamabad has between 24 and 48 nuclear weapons.

[eastforker]

Most people mis-understand,We here on freerepublic can not change what is about to happen,we can only comment on what we think will happen or why we think it should happen.War has been around since mankind started.It will always be with us on this earth,we will never have utopia and life would be worthless if we did have it,just a fact.

[ChaseR]

Sounds good...let me ck this out.

(by the way folks, I know this isn't the time to think about prospering off a nuclear war, but I was (not any more) in the retail coin business (numismatics) - and if the Paks and Indians trade nuke shots - watch the price of gold and silver - skyrocket! - All readers who can - tomorrow, or Wednesday or as soon a possible -afford to purchase/ invest in one ounce, gold American Eagles or $1000 bags of pre-1964 silver coins - do so now/call coin dealers tomorrow morning (call three or four/ask for their "spreads" on gold coins and silver bags. Look under coins in any yellow pages in any city in the U. S. A. ...[perhaps you can make enough funds - to either build your own bomb shelter -donate some extra money to FR - or take a flight on a Russian orbitor like that fella from Calif/his $20 million dollar get-away...
Anyway....no charge for this info... - but do do it!

[Stultis]

Looks like the west coast US is going to take a double wammy. [In the event of nuclear blasts in India/Pakistan.]

Wouldn't that be a triple whammy? In order of increasing devastation: 1) Crashing export markets, 2) Possible nulcear fallout, 3) Democratic "leadership".

[taxbreak]

I don't know what is scarier Muslims wanting martyrdym or some "Christians" always predicting Armageddon.....

Would any serious Christian please read the last paragraph on the last page of the New Testament?

[ImphClinton]

Five Indian soldiers were seriously injured in the heaviest shelling in four months

Seems it was worse just four months ago.

[ChaseR]

"U.S. intelligence agencies have obtained reconnaissance photographs from one Pakistani missile base that show storage-shed doors open in preparation for the movement of missiles."

Oh Sh** - oh well - no fretting - but I will have a drink thou..rofl.