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Texas2step's Lord of the Rings Movie Experience
me | 12/22/01 | Texas2step

Posted on 12/22/2001 5:46:05 PM PST by Texas2step

OK, I've had 24 hours to try and get my thoughts together now since first seeing the movie. First, if you haven't seen this movie yet, GO GET YOUR TICKETS NOW!!! This is the most incredible movie experience period. Was it perfect? No. Was it the greatest movie of all time? Maybe, but probably not to most. Was it my favorite movie ever? I'll tell you after I watch it again next week, or maybe when I watch it again the week after that, but possibly, probably yes.

First let me set up "where I was at" - my perspective, my mindset in getting ready to watch the movie. I took my wife who was not familiar with LOTR at all. Not familiar with The Hobbit, Frodo, Gandalf, etc. Not only that, but by her own admission hates "movies where they wear the same clothes the whole movie". :-) She was not excited about seeing the movie, but went primarily to review whether or not we would allow our 10 year old daughter to go.

So, I had a couple of things on my mind as I watched the movie. I was concerned about my wife's reaction, and hoping that she wouldn't hate it, and I watched the movie intently with trying to determine if it would be unappropriate if my 10 year old daughter saw the movie.

I wish I could have seen this movie by myself, without having to be concerned with how someone I was with would react, and without evaluating the movie on the gore/violence/fright scale. But alas, I did not have that opportunity.

Also, I have read every single review, every article on Jackson, Tolkien, LOTR, etc. that I could get my hands on. I practically knew exactly what was going to happen throughout the movie. I knew what changes had been made, I knew when it was going to be scary, I knew when it was going to be sad. I wish now that I had not read so much detail and done more skimming.

So, now you know my distractions and my mindset. Even with this, even with extremely high expectations, I was literally blown away. I was so hyped about watching this movie, I didn't realize that the movie had started until about 30 seconds into Galadriel's prologue intro.

If you have not seen the movie, don't read any further. There will be "spoilers" throughout the rest of this "review".

What was perfect?

First and formost, casting and acting. I won't repeat the high praises of others who have mentioned the portrayals of Gandalf, Borimor, Bilbo, Sauraman, and Elrond, they are all excellent, no, perfect.

I've seen mixed reviews on Frodo, Galadriel, and Aragorn. I'm sorry, but whoever did not see these three as doing an awesome job, what on earth were you drinking?

Aragorn is absolutely perfect. The way he walks, the way he looks, the sense of growth from beginning to ending. By the end of the movie you see "the man who would be king".

Frodo, man, Woods did an incredible job. You sense the burden he picks up in Rivendell. You feel the weight of the ring he carries. You see the sense of foreboding in his eyes in the mountains of Caldaras. You see the assumption of responsibility in the way he carries himself when he comes to the decision to travel to Mount Doom alone. Absolutely perfection.

Galadriel is perfect as well. Having read the reviews and spoilers about the mirror scene, I was expecting some kind of hokey video game sequence with special effects. Yes, the special effects in this scene were "over the top", moreso than I remember from when reading the books, but it fit. It was perfect. I really enjoyed this scene more than I thought I would.

I have seen some who have been under impressed with the portrayal of Merry and Pippen. I disagree. Yes, they were the comic effect, but that's the impression I had of them from the book as well. I didn't mind the change in Moria where Pippen knocks the skeleton down the well instead of throwing a rock. I didn't mind the other subtle changes in their characters from the book. I think their portrayal was an enhancement and really added to the Fellowship. I can't wait to see how they hold up in the hands of the orcs in the Two Towers.

Acting was absolutely perfect.

What about special effects?

Great - when Frodo wears the ring, the size of the hobbits, the cave troll was much, much scarier than I expected, epic battle scenes, the entire Mines of Moria scene was mindblowing, scene with Galadriel, the Ringwraiths at the ford, scene with Bilbo & Frodo in Rivendell, and more.

I didn't see any poor special effects. None. The balrog did not meet my expectations, however. I expected to be frightened.

The cinematography was the best I've ever seen. Period. The settings were the best I've ever seen. Period. The level of detail was the best I've ever seen. Period.

My only disappointments? It's funny, I'm not a huge Tolkien fan. I am a fan of fantasy/sci-fi, less so now than when I was younger, but I've read lots of it. I didn't expect changes to Tolkien's work to be among my disappointments. However, I do feel that the changes were necessary. This movie cannot be perfect without it being 4 hours in length. It's just not possible. There's nothing in it I would take out. But there's a ton I wanted to add back in. It did not feel like a three hour movie. As the Fellowship left the Mines of Moria, I felt like we were probably about 90 minutes into the movie and had 90 left. But I looked at my watch, over 2 hours had gone by.

I was a bit disappointed with the Forest of Loth-Lorien. It was way too short. I wanted to stay and explore this incredible forest. Where was Sam when Frodo and Galadriel were looking into the mirror??? I missed this immensely, and I knew ahead of time that Sam wasn't going to be there in the movie. The whole scene in Loth-Lorien was way too short. Where were the gifts to each of the fellowship? I knew that this was cut from the movie, and I knew that Galadriel's scene with Gimli was cut, but I missed it sorely.

Speaking of Gimli. I thought he was shorted in this movie. My memory of Gimli and Legolas was larger than what I saw. The actors did great. They just weren't given enough screen time. I do hope that they see expansions of their roles to the rightful place for The Two Towers. Their growing friendship is part of my favorite things of LOTR, and we didn't get to see much of that in this movie.

There's more, but I really have to go. It's all trivial, but to me it seemed very rushed. I wanted to bask in the travels of the fellowship. I wanted to enjoy the sights that we got to behold. I understand the the general movie going audience would probably not stand for a four hour movie, but I sure could have.

In summary, my wife like it a lot. If I can get her to go back, I do believe she would enjoy it more. Her ONLY complaint was the lack of an "ending" and lack of closure. I should have warned her, and I thought I had, but she spent the last 20 minutes of the movie going "they better get going, there's a long way to go before it's through", etc.

We did agree, after much discussion, and a night to sleep on it that our daughter can see it. I will take her on a father/daughter date next week. She's excited.

My favorite parts of the movie was the Ringwraith's in pursuit of the Hobbits. Fantastic. The black blood on the horses hooves. It gives me chills. The level of detail throughout. Wow.


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To: Texas2step
I agree, I expected the Christian outlook to be muted but rather it seemed enhanced. This is one of the big reasons I'm still wrestling over taking my 9 year old son (no way the littler kids are going). He's pretty sensitive, though, so we're leaning towards FOTR on video and TT in the theatre.

Ever since probably Paradise Lost's sophisticated Satan, there's been in great art the tendency to romanticize evil. In FOTR the absolute repugnancy of evil, and horror and fear it generates, is perfectly depicted.

61 posted on 12/23/2001 6:49:19 AM PST by Wordsmith
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To: Texas2step
Oddities:

How did Gandalf get his staff back after escaping Isengard?

Isn't a bit of reach that ALL the orcs would bolt at the sound of the balrog's approach?

If Saruman knew that the Fellowship was going to attempt Moria, wouldn't he have wanted to prevent this to keep the Ring from being lost in the mines where he couldn't get it? Or wouldn't he have warned the orcs of the mines to be waiting for them?

Why did it seem like every creature had to grab Frodo by the leg and twirl him around? The Watcher at the Gate, the cave troll, wasn't there another too?

It sure did seem like Gandalf hung on the edge of the bridge for a long time. I guess that "time slows down" approach was also at work in the flight to the fords, where the horses all seemed to be moving at 3/4 speeds.

I'll probably think of more. Can't wait to go again!

62 posted on 12/23/2001 7:00:07 AM PST by Wordsmith
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To: arkfreepdom
I believe Two Towers comes out next December.
yep. Part II Christmas 2002, Part III Christmas 2003
63 posted on 12/23/2001 5:28:25 PM PST by Constitution Scholar
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To: Constitution Scholar
Part II Christmas 2002, Part III Christmas 2003

359 days and counting until Dec. 18, 2002!

64 posted on 12/23/2001 8:28:26 PM PST by ecurbh
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To: Texas2step;GretchenEE
GretchenEE, thanks for the ping.

I'm bookmarkin' to make sure I read it =^)

65 posted on 12/24/2001 3:12:18 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: Wordsmith
The fireworks from the wizard Gandalf. Super- I have already called our local mayor and told him that is what I expect next 4th of July. Great movie!!!!!
66 posted on 12/24/2001 3:37:11 AM PST by doosee
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To: Texas2step
The worst part of the movie was when it ended because I didn't want it to end. I would have gladly watched six more hours like the first three. The locations are gorgeous, the monsters horrifying, the battles thrilling, and what a cast! Viggo Mortensen, Ian Holm, Hugo Weaving, John Rhys-Davies, Sean Bean and Christopher Lee are perfectly cast. Ian McKellen IS Gandalf. I cannot praise this movie enough!

Forget Harry Potter (which was great) - THIS is the real movie of the year. I just hope Peter Jackson can maintain this quality for the next two.

67 posted on 12/24/2001 3:51:40 AM PST by mechadogzilla
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To: Texas2step
GO GET YOUR TICKETS NOW!!!

Um...no. I'll wait until after the beginning of the year when schools are back in session. That way I can see LOTR in the afternoon without having to sit in an audience filled with teenyboppers. This group tends to make the most noise.

68 posted on 12/24/2001 3:55:19 AM PST by PJ-Comix
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To: goldstategop
"The home viewing experience will be on a much more leisurely and intimate scale and I'm sure people are already looking forward to the DVD Director's Cut Edition."

How long 'till the DVD is available?

69 posted on 12/24/2001 4:05:31 AM PST by Godebert
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To: AngrySpud
Um, there was no ending because that was only the first book in the trilogy. If you want to know how it ends immediately, you could try actually reading the story.
70 posted on 12/24/2001 4:06:01 AM PST by dinodino
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To: PJ-Comix
Oh yeah! It's much better the second time although I still want to take those snooty Lothlorien elves down a peg or two.
71 posted on 12/24/2001 4:07:23 AM PST by Overtaxed
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To: PJ-Comix
Um...no. I'll wait until after the beginning of the year when schools are back in session. That way I can see LOTR in the afternoon without having to sit in an audience filled with teenyboppers. This group tends to make the most noise.

The teenyboppers at the showing I was at were giggling and talking for the first thirty seconds. After that I think the movie had them under a spell. (It surely had me) They were totally respectful throughout and the only sound they made was to join in the applause.

Really great films can do that.

72 posted on 12/24/2001 4:11:19 AM PST by mechadogzilla
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To: Texas2step
If you have not seen the movie, don't read any further. There will be "spoilers" throughout the rest of this "review".

Okay then, marking for later reading... :)

73 posted on 12/24/2001 4:15:20 AM PST by RedWing9
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To: AngrySpud
We were also disappointed with the lack of an ending ... even the Star Wars movies each had a discernable 'ending'.

Actually, it was rather similar to Empire Strikes Back in it's lack of resolution and its setup for the next movie, and many people think Empire is the best of the Star Wars films.

The producers are planning in March to put the Two Towers trailer at the end of the Fellowship in order to both tease the next installment and probably to address the issue that some people are having in not understanding that LOTR is a trilogy of films (I admit, FOTR makes absolutely no effort to prepare the uninitiated for this fact. It would have been as simple as placing the words "Book I" in front of the "Fellowship of the Ring" title at the beginning. Also, the advertising campaign leads one to think that it's a self-contained picture. Odd).

74 posted on 12/24/2001 4:20:14 AM PST by RogueIsland
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To: Wordsmith
How did Gandalf get his staff back after escaping Isengard?

That was his "backup staff". He bought it in a private transfer, so the BATF was unaware that he had it.

Isn't a bit of reach that ALL the orcs would bolt at the sound of the balrog's approach?

I dunno. I think I would have bolted at the approach of "a demon from the old world".

If Saruman knew that the Fellowship was going to attempt Moria, wouldn't he have wanted to prevent this to keep the Ring from being lost in the mines where he couldn't get it? Or wouldn't he have warned the orcs of the mines to be waiting for them?

Interesting question. That's where Gollum comes in. I believe Gandalf pointed out that Sauron was using Gollum's link to the ring to track it through the mines.

Why did it seem like every creature had to grab Frodo by the leg and twirl him around? The Watcher at the Gate, the cave troll, wasn't there another too?

Because grabbing a Hobbit and swinging him around by the leg is just so much fun! Admit it, you'd do it if you had the chance too!

75 posted on 12/24/2001 4:34:00 AM PST by RogueIsland
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To: Texas2step
I, too went with my wife, who's not a Tolkein person, not even a fantasy/SF fan. She liked the movie, she followed the story, but she kept expecting the closure at the end too. I should have warned her. My kids are 7 and 4, they won't be seeing it for a while. And I agree with you about the Balrog. It looked demonic enough, but not as intense, or maybe chaotic, or violent as I imagined one to be. Your movie experience was almost exactly like mine. I had to comment because I know exactly what you're talking about with the concern for your wife's opinion, screening for the kids, etc. I felt like I could have written that review myself!

--Ovrtaxt, not overtaxed!

76 posted on 12/24/2001 4:35:28 AM PST by ovrtaxt
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To: Mulder
mulder, do yourself a favor and go see LOTR. it has nothing to do with that other movie you mentioned. it is like comparing a cartoon to an epic classic, there is no basis for comparison, one was a waste of time, while LOTR is classic literature on the big screen.
77 posted on 12/24/2001 4:56:23 AM PST by Capt.YankeeMike
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To: mechadogzilla
Same here. There were folks here from 7 to 70+ and, once the movie started, everyone was completely enthralled. There was no laughing, giggling, cutting up or rudeness from a single person there. Added up to a good movie-viewing experience.
78 posted on 12/24/2001 5:34:00 AM PST by sneakers
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To: RogueIsland
Actually Gandalf gets his staff back when Saruman sells it on E-Bay in order to raise money for his evil and insidious plot.
79 posted on 12/24/2001 8:26:47 AM PST by Busywhiskers
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To: Texas2step
Only Frodo seemed mainly immune to the rings sway, but not completely.

Don't worry. Even his resistance gradually erodes as the story continues. Most of us know the ending, so I won't spoil it for those who don't.

80 posted on 12/24/2001 12:11:04 PM PST by Restorer
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