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WHY DIVORCE IS SO PREVALENT: The #1 Answer To Society's #1 Problem
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Posted on 12/14/2001 3:21:12 PM PST by Dr. Octagon

WASHINGTON, D.C — One of the messiest areas of the law is divorce and child custody cases.

"Legal Notebook" guest, Stephen Baskerville, says that fathers are more often than not treated no better than criminals. Baskerville is a professor of political science at Howard University in Washington DC, and a spokesman for Men, Fathers and Children International.

Host Tom Jipping said to Baskerville, "In some of your writing, I´ve seen a contrast between fatherhood and fathers, particularly in terms of things that the government does. We see a lot of public relations talk about supporting fatherhood, and then, of course, you do a lot of writing as to the way fathers are treated. Distinguish fatherhood versus fathers."

Baskerville said, "It´s an important distinction. Fatherhood has become a buzzword for the government. Increasingly there is awareness of the importance of fathers -- I think it´s reaching general knowledge that fathers are important to children, that many social pathologies – most social pathologies today – result from fatherless homes, fatherless children. And the fathers are very important not only for the upbringing of their children, but for our social order as well."

Jipping said, "To me, some of the most interesting newer work in that area, not just kind of divorce generally, or broken homes sort of generally, but specifically fatherless homes -- that to me is some of the most interesting social science research that´s been done -- and not just by what you might consider conservative activists or something. There are lots of folks at your prestigious universities that are coming to the same conclusion."

Baskerville noted, "That´s right. What´s not being realized, though, is what the cause of this problem is. The assumption that is often unstated is that the fathers have abandoned or deserted their children. This is almost never the case. There´s no solid evidence whatever that large numbers of fathers in this country are simply abandoning their children. There is very solid evidence that fathers are being thrown out of the family systematically by family court, primarily."

Jipping asked, "Do fatherless homes also result from marriages not taking place – is the family simply not forming, while the mothers have the kids and the kids just stay with the mom?

Baskerville answered, "That´s true. And those cases are much more difficult to document when there´s never been a marriage in the first place. But even in those cases, most of those fathers have court orders either regulating when they can see their children, or ordering them to stay away from their children altogether."

Jipping asked, "Is there specific research on what portion of the broken homes, or the fatherless homes, result from these different causes, whether it´s [that] simply no family forms in the first place, fathers abandon their children, or the category we´re talking about here, which is intervention by family courts and fathers being ordered out of the home."

Baskerville stated, "Well, if there´s a marriage, then there is documentation -- we know who files for the divorce. And in most cases, when children are involved, it´s almost always the mother, two-thirds to three-quarters of the time. So in those cases, we have solid documentation that fathers very seldom voluntarily divorce when their children are involved. For the non-married cases, it is difficult to document. But there´s no reason to assume these fathers love their children any less. If you talk to those fathers many of them will tell you -- almost all of them will tell you -- that they desperately want to be with their children and to be active parents, and they are forcibly kept away."

Jipping mentioned an article he read in the Washington Times, on September 19, of an author, Judith Wallerstein, PhD who has been studying the effects of divorce, and has a new book out, The Unexpected Legacy of Divorce, a 25 year study, documenting what divorce does to family and children.

Baskerville said, "I think we´ve been denying this for many years now, that divorce is, in fact, harmful for children. I don´t think there´s any question. In many ways, divorce is kind of a conspiracy of grown-ups against children. And this is especially the case when it´s only one of the parents who want the divorce."

Jipping asked Baskerville if he agrees with the author of the book that at the time of the divorce itself, it´s really about problems and the effects that that has on the mothers and the fathers. But, the effects on the children are much, much more long-term and occur decades later.

Baskerville agreed, "Absolutely. For a child, the most terrifying thing is to lose a parent; the fear of losing a parent is horrible for a child. And also by the institution of forced divorce, we´re sending a lot of very harmful and destructive messages to children. We´re showing children that the family and the state are in effect dictatorships, in which children can be ripped apart from their parents for no reason, or for any reason, and they don´t have to have done anything wrong, or their parents don´t have to [have done anything wrong]."

Jipping asked, "We hear the phrase ‘no-fault divorce´ is that what you mean by forced divorce – is that what that becomes?"

Baskerville replied, "Absolutely. This was this deception that was brought [with] no-fault divorce. The idea was that this would be for mutual agreement -- you could have a divorce without a contest. What, in fact, it has become is [what is known as] unilateral divorce. And 80% of the divorces in this country are unilateral. They are over the objections of one parent. And that becomes even more when children are involved."

Jipping questioned, "So, does no-fault divorce really mean, under the state laws that govern the stuff, a divorce by only one of the two spouses for whatever reason that spouse chooses, not specified reasons?"

Baskerville said, "Overwhelmingly that´s true. And what´s even more shocking is that the parent that divorces is almost always the parent who expects to get custody of the children. A study by the University of Iowa found that the expectation of getting the children was the single most important factor in deciding who files for divorce."


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1 posted on 12/14/2001 3:21:12 PM PST by Dr. Octagon
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To: Dr. Octagon
Having seen a few marriages of others go down the proverbial tubes, my observations are that failed marriages result from 1) thinking the spouse can be "changed" afterwards and 2) financial difficulties. Infidelity and really bizarre situations tend to be restricted to the Dr Laura call-in group.
2 posted on 12/14/2001 3:26:29 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Dr. Octagon
Well this is just more evidence that women are the cause of our social ills :)
3 posted on 12/14/2001 3:30:55 PM PST by Orblivion
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To: Orblivion
:O)
4 posted on 12/14/2001 3:33:16 PM PST by Dr. Octagon
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To: Dr. Octagon
In the beginning of a marriage the woman thinks she can change the man and the man thinks the woman will never change. Both are wrong.
5 posted on 12/14/2001 3:41:35 PM PST by Rudder
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To: Rudder
BUMP
6 posted on 12/14/2001 3:44:35 PM PST by Dr. Octagon
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To: Dr. Octagon
And the definition of a wedding ring is?.........A vicious circle!
7 posted on 12/14/2001 3:48:46 PM PST by umgud
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To: umgud
:o)
8 posted on 12/14/2001 3:49:57 PM PST by Dr. Octagon
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To: Rudder
That was extremely astute.
9 posted on 12/14/2001 3:56:16 PM PST by riley1992
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To: Dr. Octagon
The #1 Answer To Society's #1 Problem?

Stay single.

10 posted on 12/14/2001 4:00:47 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: riley1992;texaggie79;howlin;teacup;classygreeneyedblonde;victoria delsoul;lazamataz
Maybe this will 'splane it for you.


11 posted on 12/14/2001 4:02:30 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: jhavard;registered
FYI
12 posted on 12/14/2001 4:04:16 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
So you are either gay or alone on the weekends?
13 posted on 12/14/2001 4:04:30 PM PST by riley1992
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To: riley1992
Single people are gay or alone? Yikes!

This one looks better:


14 posted on 12/14/2001 4:07:12 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Nah, I just meant because you said that girls are eeeeeevil.
15 posted on 12/14/2001 4:10:17 PM PST by riley1992
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To: Dr. Octagon
It's not that complicated. I think feminism and acceptance of divorce are the biggest true causes.
16 posted on 12/14/2001 4:11:10 PM PST by goodieD
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
NOW you tell me!
17 posted on 12/14/2001 4:11:47 PM PST by paul51
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
BWAHAA!!!!!

I thank God every time I come home from work, after two or more weeks, and realize that I have money in the bank and no one but myself has access.

18 posted on 12/14/2001 4:15:11 PM PST by alaskanfan
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To: goodieD
Like your bio.
19 posted on 12/14/2001 4:19:03 PM PST by Dr. Octagon
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To: alaskanfan
You commute to Prudhoe?
20 posted on 12/14/2001 4:21:03 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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