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NTSB Destroys Incriminating Evidence
newsmax.com ^ | Dec. 14, 2001 | Reed Irvine

Posted on 12/14/2001 3:32:16 AM PST by tberry

NTSB Destroys Incriminating Evidence

Reed Irvine

Dec. 14, 2001

The National Transportation Safety Board, NTSB, has secretly sent a large part of the wreckage of TWA Flight 800 to a Long Island junkyard for recycling.

Millions of dollars were spent recovering the wreckage from the ocean and transporting it to Calverton, where the fuselage was assembled as a mock-up to impress the public with what a thorough job the investigators – the NTSB and the FBI – were doing.

That was for show, but there was other wreckage that they didn't want shown. Journalists and private investigators were not allowed inside the Calverton hangar to inspect the bulk of the recovered wreckage, but even members of the official investigating team were not allowed into a special area where the FBI secreted items that they didn't want the representatives of the NTSB, TWA, Boeing and the interested unions to see.

The fuselage mock-up will be preserved, together with one of the four engines. The destruction of the rest was carried out in July and August of this year. The recycler says that he had to pledge to keep it secret to get the contract. Long Island's News Channel 12 learned about it only recently.

The NTSB claims that all interested parties were told what they intended to do. The parties who are most interested, those who have carried out their own investigations and are convinced that the government's explanation of the cause of the crash is bogus, were not notified.

The NTSB denies that it kept the demolition secret, but it's clear that it did so. It knew that there were many people interested in the TWA 800 case who would have strenuously objected to the destruction of evidence that they believed would prove the NTSB and FBI had covered up the real cause of the crash – hits by missiles that were seen by hundreds of eyewitnesses.

The FBI was so nervous about what some of the recovered wreckage revealed that it would not allow non-FBI members of the official investigating team to see it. It was kept in a special room that only FBI special agents could access.

Other investigators complained that evidence was taken to that room and never seen again. Now we will never know what vital bits of evidence were hidden in that room.

One of them may have been part of the tail assembly of a drone manufactured by Teledyne Ryan Aeronautical, TRA, in San Diego. We know from a misdirected fax that the FBI asked TRA to send an official to Calverton to see if he could identify some bright orange wreckage.

After seeing it, the official asked his office to send him a parts list and drawings of the tail assembly of the BQM-34 Firebee 1. When I questioned him, he first said it was just junk, but he then switched and said he saw a part similar to a TRA product and that he sent for the drawings to prove that it wasn't theirs.

If it wasn't from a Firebee, it must have been from another drone, evidence the FBI hid and the NTSB has destroyed.

Maj. Fritz Meyer was piloting an Air National Guard helicopter when he saw TWA Flight 800 hit by missiles. Later he viewed the wreckage in the Calverton hangar and was struck by the heavy damage done to a nose wheel and tire. An NTSB official with him remarked that experts told him it was caused by a bomb.

The "bomb" must have been attached to a missile. That was also evidence that had to be destroyed.

When part of the leading edge of the right wing was tested for explosive residue by an Egis machine, 12 positive hits were registered. Maj. Meyer flew the wing section to Washington to be retested by the FBI crime lab, which reported that all but two of the 12 hits were false positives.

Dr. Frederic Whitehurst, the FBI's top explosives expert until he was assigned to a different job when he became a whistle-blower, says that the lab failed to follow proper procedures in retesting the wing.

In any case, there were two positive hits for explosive residue, evidence that a missile had exploded near the plane. That evidence was a serious threat to the government's theory of the cause of the crash.

The destruction of so much evidence that could be used to prove that the government has covered up the real cause of the crash of TWA 800 may have been legal. However, those who ordered it apparently feared they might not have been allowed to get away with it if they did so openly, because it is morally outrageous.

Reed Irvine is chairman of Accuracy in Media.


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To: tberry
My sister in law's life long best friend and her husband were killed in this plane crash. They were on their way to Paris for their 20th anniversary. I've always been curious about this plane crash. It was very upsetting for our family. They had three teenaged children. I hate to fly now, because of this plane crash.
21 posted on 12/14/2001 5:05:31 AM PST by SpookBrat
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To: M1991
That Bush EO sealing presidential records will prevent us from ever finding out.

There may be SOOOO much more to the Clinton legacy we haven't even touched on yet.
Maybe sealing those records is to protect the country from mass hysteria.
Clinton may have done more national damage than we are even aware of.
If he could blatantly sell us out to Red China, right in front of the nations face, allow years of terrorist attacks, who knows how many interns could be dead that we havn't heard of, ...etc.
Clinton wanted Marxism, with he and Hillary as the dictators over a slaved society. The both of them felt they could do anything, and I mean anything, they wanted. Look what they did to our society here in America in just 8 years!! When Bill left, Hillary was to take over to finish the job. The right wing ruined their plans, but the plan still lives. It's just been posponed.
It would be great if Ashcroft and Bush were compiling evidence to arrest and convict the Clintons and their cronies, but It's just a hope and a prayer.

22 posted on 12/14/2001 5:11:00 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: DancesWithTrout
Yeah, and monkeys might fly out of my butt.

There are several things you might use to take care of flying-butt-monkeys. Many calibers are sufficient, but I prefer those that start with a ".4"

Or, there's Preparation .375 H&H, for the bigger FBMs.

23 posted on 12/14/2001 5:11:18 AM PST by packrat01
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To: EggsAckley
There were actually two targets on the plane.

A while ago a bunch of freepers got together and investigated/conjectured what may have happened.

Give me a moment and I'll see if I can find the link.

God Save America (Please)

24 posted on 12/14/2001 5:14:11 AM PST by John O
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To: Destructor
The recent attack on the World Trade Center may give us some insight into TWA flight 800. The one thing we know for sure about the trade center attack, is that it was well planned. Every detail from the time and date of takeoff to where the planes were to hit was well thought out. For example, the time and date, Tuesday September 11, just after nine. September was selected because it’s the slowest vacation month of the year, just after the summer and a week after Labor Day. Tuesday was selected because people tend to take Mondays and Fridays off in greater frequency. And of course just after nine. The start of the business day, no ones out to lunch yet or left early to go to a meeting. If fact both Airplanes would have hit after nine if the first had not left ahead of schedule. They wanted there to be two planes and encouraged cell phone communication so there could be no cover-up. They wanted the world to know that this was a terrorist attack and who did it. And they would not be denied this acknowledgement. Without acknowledgement there would be no terror and thus no reward for their heinous act. But why take off from Boston and not JFK? Most would think that a New York departure would allow less time for the highjackers to be discovered and accordingly less time for their evil plan to be foiled. There is no doubt that the highjackers considered a New York departure for a New York attack but rejected it and there must have been a reason. And that reason is that there plan had a greater chance of failure if the planes left from New York. They must have believe that New York skies were protected and that their plan would be tagged. Where the highjackers under the impression that TWA flight 800 was tagged and shot down?
25 posted on 12/14/2001 5:18:26 AM PST by Dave Burns
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To: *TWA800_list
Don't government agencies normally put out bids to find the best price? And what's with the secrecy? If the plane actually spontaneously blew up, what's there to hide?
26 posted on 12/14/2001 5:21:15 AM PST by coloradan
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To: EggsAckley
DOWNSIDE LEGACY AT TWO DEGREES OF PRESIDENT CLINTON SECTION: REMEMBERING THE DEAD SUBSECTION: TWA800 –– RESEARCH PROJECT Revised 10/12/00

This is a research project that started as an email conversation and was continued to FreeRepublic. Information on possible targets starts at the "The Debate - On Topic" heading (about 1/3 down the page).

The discussion includes a ton of info on almost every angle related to the shoot-down, including forces and armament in the area and shooting angles. It's a deep read but I believe a very good piece of work.

GSA(P)

27 posted on 12/14/2001 5:30:39 AM PST by John O
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To: tberry
Great and one of the major players in this and the WACO investigation just got PROMOTED

Transit Security pick is named

New safety chief getting rare powers

28 posted on 12/14/2001 5:35:08 AM PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: John O
Thanks, for the Link, John O !!
29 posted on 12/14/2001 5:38:01 AM PST by Alabama_Wild_Man
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
This is just speculation on my part, but in light of the clintons "raise money from any & every source," I suspect they would have accepted donations from anyone, including terrorist groups. Alamo-Girl's site has doucumentary evidence linking the clintons and their friends to Indonesia, Red China, etc., dating back into the 1970's.
30 posted on 12/14/2001 6:01:49 AM PST by backhoe
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
I've always thought that the Toons did what they did for 8 yrs, not so much because they were amoral, self-absorbed, monomaniacs, but because they were blackmailed. I think quite a few people/organizations had a decent amount of dirt on them, and the Toons did what they were told in order to keep it quiet.
31 posted on 12/14/2001 6:07:45 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: packrat01
"What're the odds we'll ever know what really happened? Probably between Slim and None; and Slim just left town."

Someone here (I don't remember who) on Free Republic said the other day that if only one plane had gone in to the WTC on 9/11 we would still be being told that it was an accident. I'm afraid that poster was right.

Carolyn

32 posted on 12/14/2001 6:08:31 AM PST by CDHart
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To: mewzilla
Let me add, this is NOT to say that the Toons AREN'T self-absorbed, amoral, monomaniacs. That's obvious.
33 posted on 12/14/2001 6:10:02 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: tberry
I just saw an episode of "The 20th Century" on The History Channel about the TWA 800 incident. The episode was on this morning as a matter of fact. It was positively enraging to see FBI and NTSB officials lie through their teeth about what happened to that flight and all the people on board. The show repeatedly stated that for the majority of the investigation, the FBI felt that the cause was a bomb or a missile. Only at the very end did they change their mind.

The rank dishonesty of the FBI and NTSB officials infuriated me. I believe the show stated that well over 200 eyewitnesses on the ground claimed to have seen a streaking object in the sky hit the plane and spark a huge explosion. This was a covered up terrorist attact, plain and simple, and I for one am highly angered by our government's attempts to conceal the truth.

Thanks for your post.

34 posted on 12/14/2001 6:16:00 AM PST by Mighty Pen
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To: backhoe
Alamo-Girl's site has doucumentary evidence linking the clintons and their friends to Indonesia, Red China, etc., dating back into the 1970's.

Within the last 24 hours I read/saw somewhere that in addition to our Chinese friends having almost free access to the information at our nuclear labs (Los Alamos and Sandia) so were representatives from terrorists states, some of them employees who are still there.

It is easy to accept that the Clintons would embrace anyone who could and would contribute to them and whom they could "triangulate" into their longterm schemes. Their known plans were for her to also be president after him and they probably intended to swap out Secretary General of the UN after that. To do that they would need support from Muslim countries as well as Communist, and if they were successful, the U.S. would already be subdued. All I know for sure is that if it is something the Clintons want it is something that I definitely don't want.

35 posted on 12/14/2001 6:32:37 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot
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To: concerned about politics
YOU GOT IT -- Nobody talks about how BILL could NEVER have allowed a terrorist attack just before His Olympics during His reelection campaign (The most corrupt on record) to tarnish his sparkling career legacy. This is all the reason necessary for anyone to believe in the conspiracy. OBL had WTC I in 93, Flight 800 in 96, USS Cole in 99? and WTC II just now. Why is this implausible to the majority of serious journalists?
36 posted on 12/14/2001 6:37:41 AM PST by epluribus_2
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To: Dave Burns
"But why take off from Boston and not JFK? "

While all are bad, Boston Logan has the reputation of having the worst security of any major airport.

37 posted on 12/14/2001 6:39:42 AM PST by tberry
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
Within the last 24 hours I read/saw somewhere that in addition to our Chinese friends having almost free access to the information at our nuclear labs (Los Alamos and Sandia) so were representatives from terrorists states, some of them employees who are still there

This was first brought to my attention by talk radio about 3 years ago- Mike Reagan, and others, had Charlie Smith from Softwar!, Bill Gertz, Timmerman, and some other whistleblowers on who detailed the vast breach in our national security that happened, indeed was courted, during the clintons' corrupt & fradulent reign.

If you'll look here, and follow the "links within links within links" you'll find ample evidence- indeed, more than one mere human can easily grasp- of great wrongdoing:

The Holiday *Best* of Bill Clinton & his Friends!

38 posted on 12/14/2001 6:45:49 AM PST by backhoe
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To: Wm Bach
"the drone itself would have to have impacted the aircraft. But drones do not possess explosive warheads."

I have no idea of the significance of drone wreckage being found or how it relates to explosives.

I do know that just recently, for the first time we learned that rocket could be fired from drone and that they were used in Afghanistan.

Maybe some variant of the same thing was used or maybe we will never know what it means.

39 posted on 12/14/2001 6:46:34 AM PST by tberry
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To: leadpenny
What did the Clinton Administration have to hide?

Whatever it was, the Bush Administration is hiding it too.

40 posted on 12/14/2001 6:49:43 AM PST by JoeSchem
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