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Top 10 Reasons Why Al Gore Would Be a Better Wartime President Than George W. Bush [Barf Alert]
democrats.com ^ | who really cares? | Bob Fertik

Posted on 12/13/2001 12:35:50 PM PST by Big Guy and Rusty 99

With Bush's approval ratings in the stratosphere, and with the American media worshiping at his feet, why would this writer go out on a limb to say that Al Gore would do a better job of leading America's war against terrorism?

Because it's true.

On Saturday, the NY Times declared that Congressional Democrats were thrilled to have George W. Bush leading America's War Against Terrorism. "Bush Winning Gore Backers' High Praises", announced the story by Richard Berke.

He writes, "Many Democrats who once dismissed Mr. Bush as too naïve and too dependent on advisers to steer the United States through an international crisis are now praising his and his advisers' performance. Some are even privately expressing satisfaction that Mr. Gore, who tried to make his foreign affairs expertise an issue in the campaign, did not win."

My response can be summarized in one simple expletive: bull.

Berke's article does not find "many" Democrats praising Bush's performance. He finds exactly three who have the guts to go on the record. The other people he quotes anonymously - a former Senator and a former Clinton official, the rest unidentified - are not true Democrats, but cowards.

One of the two quoted Democrats, Rep. Jim Moran (D-VA) said, "Even though I'm a Democrat and think the Supreme Court selected our president, I don't think it's to our disadvantage to have George Bush as president. Sometimes you need a certain amount of braggadocio in your leaders."

OK, we'll grant that Bush has more than his fair share of braggadocio, which the dictionary defines unflatteringly: "empty or pretentious bragging; a swaggering, cocky manner."

But is that really the definition of an outstanding wartime leader? Does that sound like Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Winston Churchill? Or more like Adolph Hitler, Saddam Hussein, and Osama Bin Laden?

Rep. Norm Dicks (D-WA) said: "People were wondering if Bush was up to it. I think he's answered that. The guy has really impressed people. One of the real strengths of this administration is that people do feel comfortable about Colin Powell and Dick Cheney in particular."

We'll also grant that Colin Powell is doing a fine job. Unfortunately, Powell's biggest challenge is trying to keep the Pentagon superhawks like Paul Wolfowitz - another less-popular Bush appointee - from unleashing nuclear weapons and widening the war to Iraq, Syria, and the entire Middle East. Such reckless and dangerous warmongers would not be part of a Gore administration.

As for Cheney, his biggest challenge is to send Bush out for enough photo ops to convince the world that Bush, not Cheney, is really running the country. Unfortunately, every time Cheney makes a public appearance of his own, he proves that he is the one with the brains, while Bush's primary asset is his "swaggering, cocky manner."

So what would it be like if Al Gore, not George W. Bush, was President? Here are the top 10 differences between a Gore Presidency and a Bush Presidency.

Al Gore would be in charge. On September 11, he would have stopped reading his children's book and flown directly back to the White House - not meandering through Louisiana and Nebraska because his Vice President wanted to keep him away from the meetings where crisis decisions were being made. Al Gore would be calling the shots.

Al Gore would be making important decisions by drawing on a lifetime of foreign policy experience. Al Gore would not need on-the-job training and daily tutorials from his National Security Advisor, in between naps and jogs on the treadmill. Al Gore would also be making wiser decisions. He would not trade off long-term dangers - like turning a blind eye to nuclear proliferation in Pakistan and India, which could lead to a nuclear war - for short-term gains.

Al Gore would be a proud Commander-in-Chief, not someone hiding his shameful military record. Al Gore volunteered for the Army during the Vietnam War, and served his full tour of duty, including six months in Vietnam. George W. Bush used his family connections to become a pilot in the Texas Air National Guard, and after $1 million in training, flew for only 2 years before mysteriously being grounded - and going AWOL.

Al Gore would be speaking to the American people. He would not have waited for two days to properly address the nation. He would not have read platitudes off a TelePrompTer. He would not have hid behind Ari Fleischer. He would not have waited a month for a prime time press conference to repeat those platitudes in response to a half-dozen questions. He would have spoken intelligently and thoughtfully about the problems America faces. He would have answered as many questions as Americans wanted to ask. He would be like Rudy Giuliani - only better.

Al Gore would be truly uniting the nation. He would not be abusing the unprecedent national unity to promote an unpopular far-right ideological agenda - missile defense, fast track trade authority, and oil drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. He would focus exclusively on the enormous challenge facing the nation, and stand up to any member of his party who tried to undermine national unity for ideological purposes.

Al Gore would not be waging class warfare from above. He would not be sending the children of working families to fight and die, while passing unconscionable tax giveaways to the rich. He would be fighting for full unemployment benefits for the millions affected by the recession, which is not only the correct moral policy - but also the wise economic policy. He would support an appropriate short-term stimulus, but not a tax giveaway that would devastate the federal budget for a decade.

Al Gore would be addressing the big issue which underlies this war - namely, American dependence on Middle East oil. The Bush-Cheney administration represents the big oil companies, and has put its full power behind the cause of maintaining - not reducing - U.S. dependency on oil and fossil fuels. Al Gore would be fighting for higher auto fuel economy standards and more energy efficient appliances, not blocking them as the Bush-Cheney administration is doing.

Al Gore would not be publicly battling with Israel. With the help of Joe Lieberman, Gore would be working constructively with Israel to improve Israel's security while making progress towards a Palestinian state that would not threaten Israel. Gore would not be holding back on criticising terrorist-coddling countries like Saudi Arabia, which have allowed millions of dollars to flow to Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda.

Al Gore would be truly able to champion the principles that America is fighting for - freedom and democracy. George W. Bush cannot speak about Democracy without lying, because he didn't win the Presidency. Rather, Bush stole the Presidency by preventing 175,000 votes from being counted, with the help of his brother Jeb, his campaign co-chair Katherine Harris and a partisan Republican majority of the Supreme Court. Al Gore won the election nationally by 540,000, and if Florida's own laws on ballot counting had been followed, Gore won Florida as well.

Al Gore would not be flip-flopping on key policies relating to fighting terrorism. Gore also supports "nation-building," which Bush acknowledges will eventually be necessary in Afghanistan - but wants to foist off onto the United Nations. Also, the Gore Commission called for increased airline security, including making baggage screeners into dedicated public servants like police and firefighters, rather than minimum-wage temps. George W. Bush remains unwilling to stand up to the right wing of his party, which vehemently opposes expanding the federal workforce, regardless of the cost to American security. In fact, a strong case can be made that Al Gore might have even PREVENTED the terrorist attack on September 11.

President Gore might have strengthened airline security, following the advice of his own commission's report on that topic. This might have prevented terrorists with boxcutters from boarding the planes in the first place, or from gaining access to the cockpits.

President Gore might have implemented the report of the U.S. Commission on National Security/21st Century, better known as Hart-Rudman Commission, rather than asking Dick Cheney to duplicate its work.

President Gore might have paid closer attention to the warnings received from foreign intelligence sources. President Gore would not have been on a month's vacation while such warnings were stacking up.

President Gore might have implemented tougher money laundering rules that would have detected the payments between Al Qaeda and the hijackers.

President Gore might have lessend foreign anger at the U.S. by endorsing treaties on the environment, weapons, and money laundering, rather than sabotaging them. He might have found a way for the U.S. to engage the world at the U.N. Conference on Racism, rather than boycotting it.

President Gore might have lessened anger among Arabs and Muslims by continuing President Clinton's vigorous efforts for peace between Israel and the Palestinians, and might even have reached a final agreement. So let's ask the question: Are Democrats glad that George W. Bush is in the White House, rather than Al Gore?

Not THIS Democrat!


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To: American Soldier
Gore would have probably claimed he invented the Daisy Cutter if he were President.

Clearly, he already invented the Daisy Cutter, and was likely behind the scenes at the invention of the lawnmower-scooter. Algore has been so quiet lately, he is probably working on a new invention with BG, perhaps a MS/GPS that goes on OBL's horse so everyone on the Internet can see on a world map where in the world is Osama bin Laden at any moment. As president there wouldn't be much time to invent things unless you are Pres Slick, in which case every day is filled with invention. And, frankly, Algore does a better service to his country inventing things than he possibly could as president. So it's a win-win.

101 posted on 12/13/2001 2:22:29 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
How can you even log on to that DU website? You have a much stronger stomach than I do.
102 posted on 12/13/2001 2:23:11 PM PST by hattend
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To: Exigence
'Cause he knows that "story" would never fly.

I disagree. IMO he has set an example that, unfortunately, many other democrats refuse to follow - he hasn't uttered stupid liberal blame-America nonsense and he has supported the President and the country. He might think he could do a better job - but the difference between Gore and Clinton, it seems, is that Gore has learned when to keep his thoughts to himself.

103 posted on 12/13/2001 2:25:54 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: Warren
while passing unconscionable tax giveaways to the rich
I've never had one of these dimwits explain to me exactly how returning to me that which was stolen from me is a "giveaway".
104 posted on 12/13/2001 2:29:25 PM PST by Mr. Buzzcut
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
President Gore might have lessened anger among Arabs and Muslims by continuing President Clinton's vigorous efforts for peace between Israel and the Palestinians, and might even have reached a final agreement. So let's ask the question: Are Democrats glad that George W. Bush is in the White House, rather than Al Gore? Not THIS Democrat!

How Gore have done with these guys?

105 posted on 12/13/2001 2:34:51 PM PST by cardinal4
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
This is some really funny stuff...LOL
106 posted on 12/13/2001 2:35:19 PM PST by Khurkris
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To: Bikers4Bush
This is so much DRIVEL!!! Al Gore "might have strengthened airline security" YEAH RIGHT!!! THE SAME AL GORE who gave away our military secrets to China and took fundraiser money in a BUDHIST temple...PLEASE...security and AL GORE don't belong in the same article together! Rush is right, the libs are having a MELTDOWN! HEHEHE!
107 posted on 12/13/2001 2:35:54 PM PST by princess leah
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
Al Gore would be a proud Commander-in-Chief, not someone hiding his shameful military record. Al Gore volunteered for the Army during the Vietnam War, and served his full tour of duty, including six months in Vietnam.

WOW a WHOLE six momths!!!

108 posted on 12/13/2001 2:45:08 PM PST by Valin
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
This silly man child is clearly delusional and should stop whatever he is snorting before he implodes. It is an article silly beyond comprehension and needs to be consigned to the trashbin of time.
109 posted on 12/13/2001 2:50:29 PM PST by wingnuts'nbolts
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
In fact, a strong case can be made that Al Gore might have even PREVENTED the terrorist attack on September 11.

Someone might wonder why Bob thinks Al would have done any of these things in the first few months when he was the administration for the 8 prior years and it didn't occur to him to do them then. These, of course, were all the things Al campaigned on so I'm guessing he'd have gotten right on them.

110 posted on 12/13/2001 3:10:44 PM PST by laredo44
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To: Cooter
Give old Al a break, he's just checking to see if his weapon is loaded......
111 posted on 12/13/2001 3:15:11 PM PST by rryoung
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
Total horse sh!t!!!

Al was the guy who made a secret deal with the Russian Prime minister (Victor C.) not to tell Congress about a Russian/Iranian nuclear technology transfer. He screwed up the only real responsibility he had!!! (according to the Nuke-yoo-lur Non-Proliferation Act of 1992)

How does making deals with one's enemies translate into being a great wartime president?

I want what you maggot infested FM-type good-time rock 'n rollers are smoking!!!

112 posted on 12/13/2001 3:24:55 PM PST by Captainpaintball
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
Today marks the one year anniversary of Gore's final concession to George W. Bush.

Please join us in a worldwide toast to the President at 9:00 p.m. EST.

113 posted on 12/13/2001 3:38:44 PM PST by wai-ming
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
This pissed me off too much not to respond. It's addressed to it's author.

Al Gore would be in charge. On September 11, he would have stopped reading his children's book and flown directly back to the White House - not meandering through Louisiana and Nebraska because his Vice President wanted to keep him away from the meetings where crisis decisions were being made. Al Gore would be calling the shots.

Al Gore would have had no choice in the matter, much the same as our President's security team was calling the shots.

Al Gore would be making important decisions by drawing on a lifetime of foreign policy experience. Al Gore would not need on-the-job training and daily tutorials from his National Security Advisor, in between naps and jogs on the treadmill.

And what kind of foreign policy experience does Al Gore have? Any President who doesn't use his National Security Advisor should be impeached - it's not like you can know what's going on everywhere at any given time.

Al Gore would also be making wiser decisions. He would not trade off long-term dangers - like turning a blind eye to nuclear proliferation in Pakistan and India, which could lead to a nuclear war - for short-term gains.

We are much better friends with the Pakistanis than we were before September 11, which means a great deal when we need to pressure them on a nuclear issue. Not to mention we've tied numerous loans to their nation in the process that are in their interest to keep.

Al Gore would be a proud Commander-in-Chief, not someone hiding his shameful military record. Al Gore volunteered for the Army during the Vietnam War, and served his full tour of duty, including six months in Vietnam. George W. Bush used his family connections to become a pilot in the Texas Air National Guard, and after $1 million in training, flew for only 2 years before mysteriously being grounded - and going AWOL.

Al Gore was a journalist pressured into service by his father. And only benefit Al Gore would have over Bill Clinton in running the military would be his self-control to save his sexual gratification after calling out the troops, not during.

Al Gore would be speaking to the American people. He would not have waited for two days to properly address the nation. He would not have read platitudes off a TelePrompTer. He would not have hid behind Ari Fleischer. He would not have waited a month for a prime time press conference to repeat those platitudes in response to a half-dozen questions. He would have spoken intelligently and thoughtfully about the problems America faces. He would have answered as many questions as Americans wanted to ask. He would be like Rudy Giuliani - only better.

FYI, every President and major public figure uses a TelePromptTer. Once again, Gore would simply show his complete and utter stupidity if chose not to. As for that Rudy remark, if you believe that, I have some land in Arkansas I want to sell you.

Al Gore would be truly uniting the nation. He would not be abusing the unprecedent national unity to promote an unpopular far-right ideological agenda - missile defense, fast track trade authority, and oil drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. He would focus exclusively on the enormous challenge facing the nation, and stand up to any member of his party who tried to undermine national unity for ideological purposes.

Each one of those initiatives you mention are supported by the majority of the American public, and each initiative has the goal of protecting and developing our nation. And in case you missed it, the nation is united. If you weren't still down in Florida counting hanging chads, you might have figured that out.

Al Gore would not be waging class warfare from above. He would not be sending the children of working families to fight and die, while passing unconscionable tax giveaways to the rich. He would be fighting for full unemployment benefits for the millions affected by the recession, which is not only the correct moral policy - but also the wise economic policy. He would support an appropriate short-term stimulus, but not a tax giveaway that would devastate the federal budget for a decade.

We don't have a draft. Those children of the working families weren't forced to fight. They do so because every one of them loves their country more than you ever will. Nevermind the children of the poor and upper class families that are fighting as well, and actually enjoy doing so. Your inherent distrust and disdain for the military shines through. As for the tax cut, you don't stimulate an economy by punishing the people who create most of the wealth.

Al Gore would be addressing the big issue which underlies this war - namely, American dependence on Middle East oil. The Bush-Cheney administration represents the big oil companies, and has put its full power behind the cause of maintaining - not reducing - U.S. dependency on oil and fossil fuels. Al Gore would be fighting for higher auto fuel economy standards and more energy efficient appliances, not blocking them as the Bush-Cheney administration is doing.

Right, and drilling in ANWR isn't addressing the problem of Middle East oil dependence? In case you missed it, part of the legislation passed after 9/11 granted a great deal of money to research and growth of fuels based on ethanol.

Al Gore would not be publicly battling with Israel. With the help of Joe Lieberman, Gore would be working constructively with Israel to improve Israel's security while making progress towards a Palestinian state that would not threaten Israel. Gore would not be holding back on criticising terrorist-coddling countries like Saudi Arabia, which have allowed millions of dollars to flow to Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda.

News flash: a Palestinian state is and always will be a threat to Israel. And if Joe Lieberman were VP, he'd be much more of a hindrance in dealing with Arab states. Do you think Musharraf would have met with Lieberman on the same terms as Cheney?

Al Gore would be truly able to champion the principles that America is fighting for - freedom and democracy. George W. Bush cannot speak about Democracy without lying, because he didn't win the Presidency. Rather, Bush stole the Presidency by preventing 175,000 votes from being counted, with the help of his brother Jeb, his campaign co-chair Katherine Harris and a partisan Republican majority of the Supreme Court. Al Gore won the election nationally by 540,000, and if Florida's own laws on ballot counting had been followed, Gore won Florida as well.

Don't even get me started. But I will mention the fact that it was Gore's own idea to pick the strategy that was the worst of any he could have chosen.

Al Gore would not be flip-flopping on key policies relating to fighting terrorism. Gore also supports "nation-building," which Bush acknowledges will eventually be necessary in Afghanistan - but wants to foist off onto the United Nations. Also, the Gore Commission called for increased airline security, including making baggage screeners into dedicated public servants like police and firefighters, rather than minimum-wage temps. George W. Bush remains unwilling to stand up to the right wing of his party, which vehemently opposes expanding the federal workforce, regardless of the cost to American security. In fact, a strong case can be made that Al Gore might have even PREVENTED the terrorist attack on September 11.

How? Was he on one of the planes? It was his and Clinton's administration that gutted the CIA and turned down Sudan when they tried to turn Osama over. Tell me again how anything he could have done would have prevented the attacks?

President Gore might have strengthened airline security, following the advice of his own commission's report on that topic. This might have prevented terrorists with boxcutters from boarding the planes in the first place, or from gaining access to the cockpits. President Gore might have implemented the report of the U.S. Commission on National Security/21st Century, better known as Hart-Rudman Commission, rather than asking Dick Cheney to duplicate its work.

Al and Bill had their chance, once again.

President Gore might have paid closer attention to the warnings received from foreign intelligence sources. President Gore would not have been on a month's vacation while such warnings were stacking up.

You seem to still believe that everything that hits the President's desk hasn't been read by anyone else yet.

President Gore might have implemented tougher money laundering rules that would have detected the payments between Al Qaeda and the hijackers.

Sure, we have so much control over Arabs running around the country and the world with bags of cash. As for money laundering, call the Swiss.

President Gore might have lessend foreign anger at the U.S. by endorsing treaties on the environment, weapons, and money laundering, rather than sabotaging them. He might have found a way for the U.S. to engage the world at the U.N. Conference on Racism, rather than boycotting it.

The Conference on Racism was racist. That's widely acknowledged, and once again, you're not reading your news. Since when does the Sudan get to tell us about reparations? As for those treaties...like signing anyone of them would have made bin Laden say, "Hey, maybe those Americans aren't so bad after all...it looks like they really mean it on climate control."

President Gore might have lessened anger among Arabs and Muslims by continuing President Clinton's vigorous efforts for peace between Israel and the Palestinians, and might even have reached a final agreement.

News flash. Arabs and Muslims don't seem to care all that much about the peace process. And Clinton's efforts were a dismal failure that lasted a measly two weeks. They negotiated almost as long as the cease-fire lasted.

114 posted on 12/13/2001 4:01:38 PM PST by July 4th
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
Excuse me, but this really needed a double bag barf alert.

Make it a triple.

115 posted on 12/13/2001 4:02:46 PM PST by Bella_Bru
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
Al Gore invented Bob Fertik.
116 posted on 12/13/2001 4:04:44 PM PST by Rocko
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
What a paste-eater.

He would not be sending the children of working families to fight and die, while passing unconscionable tax giveaways to the rich.

Two words: Volunteer Army

117 posted on 12/13/2001 4:05:24 PM PST by bootless
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
Man, that was really, really dumb.
119 posted on 12/13/2001 4:07:27 PM PST by Huck
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