Posted on 12/13/2001 7:11:51 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
The U. S. government released today a copy of a videotape of Osama bin Laden obtained by U.S. forces in Jalalabad, Afghanistan in late November.
The video was filmed by unknown persons.
"There was no doubt of bin Laden's responsibility for the September 11 attacks before the tape was discovered," said Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld.
The release of the tape was made after balancing the concerns about any additional pain that could be caused by its release against the value of having the world fully appreciate what we are up against in the war against terrorism.
The tape was released with an English translation and English subtitling, prepared independently by George Michael, translator, Diplomatic Language Services; and Dr. Kassem M. Wahba, Arabic language program coordinator, School of Advanced International Studies, Johns Hopkins University. They collaborated on their translation and compared it with translations done by the U.S. government for consistency. There were no inconsistencies in the translations.
The English translation is on the Web at http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Dec2001/d20011213ubl.pdf
"we calculated in advance..."
What I mean is that I doubt he was the at the head of it all by himself (which the media has painted him out to be). I feel very strongly that he was only a part (not even an absolutely necessary part) of a much larger organization. I didn't mean that he had no part in the attacks. Any part he had means he bears responsibility for it and should suffer for it.
However, the transcript bears out my point that he was at the very least an advisor to a group of people (thus the "we" in your quote). It does not prove that he was at the head of the planning, just that he was part of it. We really have no idea if only Al-Qeada is behind this, or if they had support (even leadership) from other groups (Shi'ite Muslims, Hamas, etc.). Thus, we don't even know if the "we" means people from other terrorist organizations or not.
I know I'll get flamed for this, but that's my opinion based on what I have read and heard.
Hey farmer, haul that load elsewhere. We know exactly who did this and we are gonna get 'em. Every stinkin' lousy rotten one.
Hopefully, Johnny Jihad Walker and bin-Laden will
be ushered into the arms of 70 virgins like this:
Say we have some GERMAN terrorists hit our shores. We get names. Some of the names are "Jan Schmidt," "Hans Braun," "Gunther Muller," and "Dietrich Wiess."
We go looking, because these people are virtual unknowns, just some nondescript students. We find several "Jan Schmidts" for example, who might fit the profile. Which is the real guy? One works in a gas station in Hamburg. Another is a student at Heidelberg University. Etc.
Can you see what I'm getting at?
I don't know who we is. Probably in the Arab world, this smoking gun will come across as Osama & the Mossad.
Everyone on FR knows you wanted every stinkin' lousy rotten Muslim dead LONG before 3000 Americans were killed. BTW ... what would you eat if there were no farmers 'hauling loads'.
As many times as it takes.
Your excuses for bin Laden put you directly in his camp.
It is. They just don't realize it--yet.
Who WAS that guy....or any of those guys?
And does anybody know when this tape was made? They sure seemed cocky.
How do you reckon the sympathizers will try to spin this one? They will you know.
You need a bed next to Jihad Johnny Walker.
Figures...The American Free Press is run by some folks from the now defunct Spotlight. They blame EVERYTHING on the Jews.
So, that's were you're coming from.
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