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U.S. RELEASES VIDEOTAPE OF OSAMA BIN LADEN **Full Text**
US Department of Defense ^ | 12-13-01

Posted on 12/13/2001 7:11:51 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

The U. S. government released today a copy of a videotape of Osama bin Laden obtained by U.S. forces in Jalalabad, Afghanistan in late November.

The video was filmed by unknown persons.

"There was no doubt of bin Laden's responsibility for the September 11 attacks before the tape was discovered," said Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld.

The release of the tape was made after balancing the concerns about any additional pain that could be caused by its release against the value of having the world fully appreciate what we are up against in the war against terrorism.

The tape was released with an English translation and English subtitling, prepared independently by George Michael, translator, Diplomatic Language Services; and Dr. Kassem M. Wahba, Arabic language program coordinator, School of Advanced International Studies, Johns Hopkins University. They collaborated on their translation and compared it with translations done by the U.S. government for consistency. There were no inconsistencies in the translations.

The English translation is on the Web at http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Dec2001/d20011213ubl.pdf


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: michaeldobbs; talibanlist; terrorwar
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To: oxi-nato
I continue to wonder if any of your comments will EVER make an ounce of sense.
161 posted on 12/13/2001 9:03:37 AM PST by Illbay
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To: Solon
I can't say he was, himself, behind the attacks.

"we calculated in advance..."

What I mean is that I doubt he was the at the head of it all by himself (which the media has painted him out to be). I feel very strongly that he was only a part (not even an absolutely necessary part) of a much larger organization. I didn't mean that he had no part in the attacks. Any part he had means he bears responsibility for it and should suffer for it.

However, the transcript bears out my point that he was at the very least an advisor to a group of people (thus the "we" in your quote). It does not prove that he was at the head of the planning, just that he was part of it. We really have no idea if only Al-Qeada is behind this, or if they had support (even leadership) from other groups (Shi'ite Muslims, Hamas, etc.). Thus, we don't even know if the "we" means people from other terrorist organizations or not.

I know I'll get flamed for this, but that's my opinion based on what I have read and heard.

162 posted on 12/13/2001 9:04:55 AM PST by Democratic_Machiavelli
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To: Ridin' Shotgun
One of the 'alleged' hijackers showed up ...

Hey farmer, haul that load elsewhere. We know exactly who did this and we are gonna get 'em. Every stinkin' lousy rotten one.

163 posted on 12/13/2001 9:05:57 AM PST by veronica
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To: Amore
Thanks for the info.
164 posted on 12/13/2001 9:06:31 AM PST by Democratic_Machiavelli
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To: Ridin' Shotgun
If you could post the info here on FR, that would be great. I'm sure I'm not the only FReeper here who would like to see it.
165 posted on 12/13/2001 9:07:37 AM PST by Democratic_Machiavelli
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To: MrBambaLaMamba; Oldeconomybuyer
Please shoot me in the head and defile my corpse!

Hopefully, Johnny Jihad Walker and bin-Laden will
be ushered into the arms of 70 virgins like this:


166 posted on 12/13/2001 9:07:37 AM PST by ppaul
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To: Ridin' Shotgun
Let me give you a simple analogy so that even you might be able to understand.

Say we have some GERMAN terrorists hit our shores. We get names. Some of the names are "Jan Schmidt," "Hans Braun," "Gunther Muller," and "Dietrich Wiess."

We go looking, because these people are virtual unknowns, just some nondescript students. We find several "Jan Schmidts" for example, who might fit the profile. Which is the real guy? One works in a gas station in Hamburg. Another is a student at Heidelberg University. Etc.

Can you see what I'm getting at?

167 posted on 12/13/2001 9:07:44 AM PST by Illbay
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To: fivecatsandadog
Who is "we"? Bin Lyin and who else?

I don't know who we is. Probably in the Arab world, this smoking gun will come across as Osama & the Mossad.

168 posted on 12/13/2001 9:08:43 AM PST by Solon
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To: veronica
We know exactly who did this and we are gonna get 'em. Every stinkin' lousy rotten one.

Everyone on FR knows you wanted every stinkin' lousy rotten Muslim dead LONG before 3000 Americans were killed. BTW ... what would you eat if there were no farmers 'hauling loads'.

169 posted on 12/13/2001 9:10:06 AM PST by Ridin' Shotgun
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To: LarryLied
Islam won't be able to live this down no matter how much liberals whine. This is a dagger to the heart. Any welcome they still enjoyed in the west is gone.

I don't see this as being any more damaging to Islam than Jerry Falwell's comments were damaging to Christianity. Most people don't hold an entire religion responsible for it's most extreme members. It impugns the people who said it, not an entire race or religion.
170 posted on 12/13/2001 9:12:37 AM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: DallasDeb
I wondered that too. The speaker of the line is not Bin Laden, but rather his guest. So maybe its just a sycophantic follower of OBL mouthing what he thinks OBL would like to hear. In other words from the context of the statement, the guest has just finished telling OBL how great OBL's past acts were and then saying the equivalent of "and we'll have even more great wins under you coach during our Holy Month."
171 posted on 12/13/2001 9:14:29 AM PST by Loopy
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To: Ridin' Shotgun
How many times are we going to anhilate entire nations to get one 'evil' man ...

As many times as it takes.

Your excuses for bin Laden put you directly in his camp.

172 posted on 12/13/2001 9:14:57 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Rain-maker
sounds more like satanic worship to me

It is. They just don't realize it--yet.

173 posted on 12/13/2001 9:15:00 AM PST by twigs
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To: Loopy
Was it just me, or did you get the impression that the "cleric," whoever he was, knew as much about the "pending" attack as OBL did?

Who WAS that guy....or any of those guys?

And does anybody know when this tape was made? They sure seemed cocky.

174 posted on 12/13/2001 9:16:26 AM PST by Howlin
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To: HarryDunne
Oh, I agree with you- this can only be postive as far as keeping our allies on board and their citizenry. Maybe this won't put all their citizens in our corner, but they should have enough to chew on with this tape to not raise too much fuss about what else we need to do- and we do have more to do!
175 posted on 12/13/2001 9:18:37 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Huusker
"The smoking gun."

How do you reckon the sympathizers will try to spin this one? They will you know.

176 posted on 12/13/2001 9:19:20 AM PST by sweetliberty
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

177 posted on 12/13/2001 9:20:23 AM PST by classygreeneyedblonde
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To: Taliesan
The CIA obviously has faked up a video to make it look like Osama Bin Laden planned this whole thing. But WE know that the one person who stands to benefit the most from all this is George W. Bush.

You need a bed next to Jihad Johnny Walker.

178 posted on 12/13/2001 9:20:36 AM PST by aomagrat
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To: ppaul
Lil' Adbul [Johnny Jihad Walker] should be hung from a sour apple tree and his parents charged with treason.
179 posted on 12/13/2001 9:21:15 AM PST by MrBambaLaMamba
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To: Ridin' Shotgun
Then I read about the other one in the american free press.- Ridin' Shotgun

Figures...The American Free Press is run by some folks from the now defunct Spotlight. They blame EVERYTHING on the Jews.

So, that's were you're coming from.

180 posted on 12/13/2001 9:21:57 AM PST by vrwc54
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