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Indonesian Christians Flee Muslims
Associated Press \ Yahoo News ^ | DESSIANING SRI ARYANTI

Posted on 12/07/2001 7:39:35 AM PST by Walkin Man

Friday December 7 8:19 AM ET

Indonesian Christians Flee Muslims

By DESSIANING SRI ARYANTI, Associated Press Writer

SANGGINRA, Indonesia (AP) - Thousands of Christians were hiding in jungle-clad mountains on Indonesia's Sulawesi island Friday after their villages were attacked and razed by Muslim militias.

Hundreds of homes were destroyed last month in the latest round of sectarian violence in the region - which has left about 1,000 people dead on both sides in the past two years.

In November, Muslim militants drove away security forces in the area then attacked at least three Christian villages in central Sulawesi, local residents said.

There were conflicting reports about the number of deaths in those attacks. Police could confirm only eight dead, but villagers said more were missing.

In one village, Sangginra, the burned-out ruins of hundreds of houses and a church are all that is left of the once-bustling market community. A few haggard-looking villagers returned to Sangginra Friday and searched through the remains of their homes.

``Many people cannot find their wives, husbands or children,'' said local priest Marson Movanti. ``We fled to the mountains and jungle when we heard bombs exploding and rifle fire.''

He said some of the attackers were members of a Muslim militia, Laskar Jihad, which is responsible for much of the religious fighting in the nearby Maluku islands. About 9,000 people have been killed in that conflict in the past three years.

Laskar Jihad leaders in the nearby town of Poso refused to comment on the allegations.

Movanti said many of the attackers were armed with automatic rifles.

Despite government assurances that the worst of the bloodshed was over, international aid agencies have evacuated their staff from the area and human rights activists say it is unlikely that the fighting will end.

On Thursday, security minister Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono toured the region, about 1,000 miles northeast of Jakarta, and assured residents that the situation was under control. About 2,000 police and soldiers have been dispatched to the area.

Although Muslim gangs appear to be responsible for the latest outbreak of fighting, Christian militias have also killed hundreds of Muslims and forced thousands of others to flee their homes. In the bloodiest attack so far, about 100 Muslim villagers were massacred in May last year.

President Megawati Sukarnoputri has not publicly commented on the violence but is considering imposing a state of emergency in the region.

Indonesia is the world's most populous Muslim nation. Nearly 85 percent of its 203 million people are Muslim. The rest are Christian, Hindu or Buddhist.

Meanwhile, in Aceh, another restive Indonesian province, at least five people including two rebels were killed Friday in a gunbattle with government troops, said Lt. Firdaus Komarno, a local military spokesman.

Rebels in the region have been fighting for independence of their gas- and oil-rich province since 1975. More than 6,000 people have been killed, including about 1,300 this years alone.


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KEYWORDS: catholiclist; christianlist; christianpersecutio; islamicviolence; michaeldobbs; religion
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To: Walkin Man
The Islamic propagandists will be joining this thread shortly to justify violence and murder done in the name of Allah.
21 posted on 12/07/2001 8:23:13 AM PST by freebilly
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To: VRWC_minion
no bias here folks. Muslim gangs "appear to be responsible" and Christians "have killed"

HA! Good eye VRWC_minion! So here in this one news story we have two widespread lies exposed.

1. The news media is unbiased.

2. Islam is a peaceful religion.

22 posted on 12/07/2001 8:24:11 AM PST by Walkin Man
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To: Walkin Man
Indonesia-- Lobbying hard to be next on the anti-terrorist hit list.
23 posted on 12/07/2001 8:26:53 AM PST by freebilly
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To: Cacique
That's funny! I have a book on my bedstand called "Why I am not a Christian" by Bertrand Russell. My dad, an atheist, loves Russell. I am a Christian and thought that would be an interesting book to read. Unfortunately, he uses strawman arguments to make his points and he doesn't adequately present the Christian viewpoints, so I didn't read far into the book.

This book you mentioned does sound like a good read, though.

Whatever!

24 posted on 12/07/2001 8:27:05 AM PST by cantfindagoodscreenname
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To: Travis McGee; Sabertooth
An Islam is peace bump./sarcasm
25 posted on 12/07/2001 8:34:27 AM PST by harpseal
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To: Scratch shooter
Muslims are instructed by the Koran to kill all infidels

C'mon now. The average Moslem doesn't go around harassing infidels. Let's bring a little reality to this discussion.

26 posted on 12/07/2001 9:10:24 AM PST by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: NC Conservative
No, you haven't been duped. Our Muslim President insists it is, so it must be.
27 posted on 12/07/2001 9:15:15 AM PST by GuillermoX
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To: A Ruckus of Dogs
Now if you can only provide some formula or detecting device so that we can all tell the "average moslems" from the inwardly seething, average posing Mohammed Atta human time bombs in waiting, you will be doing humanity a great favor.
28 posted on 12/07/2001 9:19:40 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: GuillermoX
Indonesian Christians Flee Muslims

you mean to tell me we cant give them any air support if it were up to me id be calling in f-18's and ac-130's in to put the jihad punks down

29 posted on 12/07/2001 9:19:55 AM PST by MetalHeadConservative35
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To: harpseal; dennisw; patent; Lent; onyx; Sabertooth
Is anyone compiling an archive of "The Peaceful Religion" threads?
30 posted on 12/07/2001 9:23:03 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
I know of no such archive and wish there were one.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

31 posted on 12/07/2001 9:29:09 AM PST by harpseal
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So, is there a Christian "Al Qaeda" yet?

Another book worth reading, this one on the epidemic of persecution of Christian minorities across the world....so where's the minority loving media on this topic?

Their Blood Cries Out

32 posted on 12/07/2001 9:35:34 AM PST by Frances_Marion
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To: Big Bunyip
You must feel about Moslems just as much as me! Which is impossible. I would say dig them for the third time, burn them too!!!
33 posted on 12/07/2001 9:36:33 AM PST by philosofy123
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To: A Ruckus of Dogs
Depends on what you mean by "average". If you're talking about your neighbor Achmed, who seems to be a nice enough guy, and pretty much "average", then you're right. But you would then be using "average" to mean "a regular guy like me".

If you define average in mathematical terms, and look outside of suburbia - throughout Islam historically and geographically - you're dead wrong. Just take a look at the Islamic states around the globe, and you'll find that they are the most intolerant places on earth. Christian worship, public prayer, churches, and even carrying a Bible are forbidden.

34 posted on 12/07/2001 9:37:52 AM PST by watchin
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To: Cacique
I checked out your amazon.com link and read the reviews. A follower of the religion of "peace" from Tripoli, Lebanon, says of this author, "Off with his head."

BTW, maybe patria one, and various libertarians, can come to this thread to either deny or defend the moslem persecution and murder of Christians.

35 posted on 12/07/2001 9:41:38 AM PST by Robert-J
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To: Ff--150
Prayers does not help, Mr. christian! Only being loud and IN-YOUR-FACE can help push the stupid politicians to act. If Christians were systematically killing Jews or Moslems, you would have seen the vocal outraged from their side and I mean a whole bunch of countries crying to the UN. So what in the heck is the matter with the stupid Christians! counties, and individuals?
36 posted on 12/07/2001 9:42:24 AM PST by philosofy123
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To: Walkin Man
25%. With imports from all around the muslim world to flesh out the numbers needed.
37 posted on 12/07/2001 9:44:58 AM PST by America's Resolve
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To: Walkin Man
Although Muslim gangs appear to be responsible for the latest outbreak of fighting, Christian militias have also killed hundreds of Muslims and forced thousands of others to flee their homes. In the bloodiest attack so far, about 100 Muslim villagers were massacred in May last year.

I'm not sure this article is the best vehicle for another orgy of Muslim bashing. Just a thought.

38 posted on 12/07/2001 9:47:40 AM PST by Torie
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To: A Ruckus of Dogs
The average Moslem doesn't go around harassing infidels.

They don't have to. Enough of the Islamic population does and the rest simply provide support for them.

These aren't terrorists. They're mercenaries, pure and simple. They're hired by islamic interests, they're paid by islamic interests, they're trained by islamic interests, they're equipped by islamic interests and they're given sanctuary by islamic interests.

If you look at all of the major hotspots in the world, Islam is involved with at least 80% of them. You've heard the names: Kashmir, Chechnya, East Timor, Bengladesh, Kossovo, Java, Algeria.

Nobody's making the case that EVERY SINGLE moslem is out killing, that's your cockeyed logic. ENOUGH of them are that eventually, the world is going to have to take steps, FIRMLY.

39 posted on 12/07/2001 9:53:26 AM PST by America's Resolve
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To: Travis McGee
I don't think any library has a staff big enough.
40 posted on 12/07/2001 9:55:28 AM PST by patent
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