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Who was in Israel first, the Jews or Palestinians

Posted on 12/05/2001 7:50:45 PM PST by 100American

Here are 20 conveniently overlooked facts that give some perspective to the current Middle East situation. These were compiled by a Christian university professor..... Takes just 1.5 minutes to read!!!

1. Israel became a nation in 1312 B.C.E., two thousand years before the rise of Islam.

2. Arab refugees began identifying themselves as part of a Palestinian people in 1967, two decades after the establishment of the modern State of Israel.

3. Since the Jewish conquest in 1272 B.C.E, the Jews had dominion over the land for one thousand years with a continuous presence in the land for the past 3,300 years.

4.The only Arab domination since the conquest in 635 C.E. lasted no more than 22 years.

5. For over 3,300 years, Jerusalem has been the Jewish capital. Jerusalem has never been the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Even when the Jordanians occupied Jerusalem, they never sought to make it their capital, and Arab leaders did not come to visit.

6. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 hundred times in Bible. Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Koran.

7. King David founded the city of Jerusalem. Mohammed never came to Jerusalem.

8. Jews pray facing Jerusalem. Muslims pray with their backs toward Jerusalem.

9. Arab and Jewish refugees: Arabs were not driven out of their homes. Following the UN decision on Partition in 1948, the Arab refugees were encouraged to leave Israel by Arab leaders, promising to purge the land of Jews. They argued that an "Arab presence" would only get in the way of the planned devastation. Sixty-eight percent left without ever seeing an Israeli soldier.

10. The Jewish refugees were forced to flee from Arab lands due to Arab brutality, persecution and pogroms.

11. The number of Arab refugees who left Israel in 1948 is estimated to be around 630,000. The number of Jewish refugees absorbed by Israel from Arab countries is estimated to be the same.

12. Arab refugees were INTENTIONALLY not absorbed or integrated into the Arab lands to which they fled, despite the vast Arab territory. Out of the 100,000,000 refugees since World War II, theirs is the only refugee group in the world that has never been absorbed or integrated into their own peoples'lands. Jewish refugees were completely absorbed into Israel, a country no larger than the state of New Jersey.

13. The Arabs are represented by eight separate nations, not including the Palestinians. There is only one Jewish nation. The Arab nations initiated all five wars and lost. Israel defended itself each time and won.

14. The P.L.O.'s Charter still calls for the destruction of the state of Israel. Israel has given the Palestinians most of the West Bank and autonomy under the Palestinian Authority, and has supplied their police and security forces with weapons.

15. Under Jordanian rule, Jewish holy sites were desecrated and the Jews were denied access to places of worship. Jewish grave markers were used to build public urinals in occupied Jerusalem. Under Israeli rule, all Muslim and Christian sites have been preserved and made accessible to people of all faiths.

16. The U.N. record on Israel and the Arabs of the 175 Security Council resolutions passed before 1990, 97 were directed against Israel -- notwithstanding the fact that the Arabs refused to participate in the 15 nation United Nations Commission of Palestine which recommended partition in 1948 and sought immediately to undo its work by force of arms.

17. Of the 690 General Assembly resolutions voted on before 1990, 429 were directed against Israel.

18. The U.N. was silent while 58 Jerusalem Synagogues were destroyed by the Jordanians between 1948 and 1967.

19. The U.N. was silent while the Jordanians systematically desecrated the ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives between 1948 and 1967.

20. The U.N. was silent while the Jordanians enforced an apartheid-like policy of preventing Jews from visiting the Temple Mount and the Western Wall between 1948 and 1967.


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To: nomasmojarras
sorry
201 posted on 12/09/2001 5:32:37 PM PST by alphadog
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To: 100American
Neither was there first. There were Neanderthals living there already in prehistoric times.
203 posted on 12/09/2001 5:40:36 PM PST by Aurelius
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To: 100American
BUMP FOR CURRENT READING AND DEBATE
204 posted on 03/18/2002 9:36:59 PM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: 100American
Goldwater did not run against Kennedy. He ran against LBJ.
205 posted on 03/18/2002 9:52:09 PM PST by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland
Sorry bout that Doug, I was mere 8 years old then and not much into politics
206 posted on 03/30/2002 5:02:49 PM PST by 100American
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To: Elihu Burritt
Who came first the chicken or the egg?

Easy, the egg.

Dinosaurs were laying eggs millions of years before there were any chickens.
207 posted on 03/23/2004 3:45:38 PM PST by knowledgeman
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208 posted on 08/23/2008 11:06:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: 100American
The real question is who gets to stop the historical clock at the exact moment it points to their specific ancestors or advocacy. The region has been continuously inhabited for over 280,000 years. The first permanent settlements predate the arrival of Abraham by over 5,000 years. In the entire history of the region the Jews have only only held primacy for about 300 or 400 years. One could argue that the Syrians (Assyrians), Iraqi's and Iranians (Babylonians), Greeks, Italians, Saudi’s, Egyptians, French (Templars), Khurds, Turks, and Brits could make as legitimate a claim as the Palestinians or Jews.
209 posted on 08/25/2008 4:37:51 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Buckeroo

No it was not. Neither was it the Romans or any other group or person for that matter. Were you aware that Jesus knew about all of the twisted lies, blaming, blind and unfounded accusations and persecutions that all the world and satan would let loose concerning His death? And true to His unyielding, unbending, unbreakable, and unbearable character trait and nature of Love, He gave the answer to any and all who care to listen to him. And He put it in writing for all generations to come, even before it happened, even before you yourself asked of your own free will. Jesus’ own powerful yet simple answer brings peace, where there is discord, destroys blame where there is finger pointing hypocrisy, and unfathomable conquering Love where people think only hate and vengeance could possibly rule. Here is Jesus’ answer to your question in his own words from the Holy Scriptures... John 10:17-18 17 The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life - only to take it up again. 18 NO ONE TAKES IT FROM ME, BUT I LAY IT DOWN OF MY OWN ACCORD.(emphasis mine) I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.


210 posted on 05/21/2011 2:51:17 AM PDT by jojobe (No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord.)
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To: Buckeroo
Wasn't it the Jews that sent Jesus Christ to his death?

What saith the Scriptures? 10Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. 11This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. 12Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. 13Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus. 14And beholding the man which was healed standing with them, they could say nothing against it. 15But when they had commanded them to go aside out of the council, they conferred among themselves, 16Saying, What shall we do to these men? for that indeed a notable miracle hath been done by them is manifest to all them that dwell in Jerusalem; and we cannot deny it. 17But that it spread no further among the people, let us straitly threaten them, that they speak henceforth to no man in this name. 18And they called them, and commanded them not to speak at all nor teach in the name of Jesus. 19But Peter and John answered and said unto them, Whether it be right in the sight of God to hearken unto you more than unto God, judge ye. 20For we cannot but speak the things which we have seen and heard. 21So when they had further threatened them, they let them go, finding nothing how they might punish them, because of the people: for all men glorified God for that which was done. 22For the man was above forty years old, on whom this miracle of healing was shewed. 23And being let go, they went to their own company, and reported all that the chief priests and elders had said unto them. 24And when they heard that, they lifted up their voice to God with one accord, and said, Lord, thou art God, which hast made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all that in them is: 25Who by the mouth of thy servant David hast said, Why did the heathen rage, and the people imagine vain things? 26The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord, and against his Christ. 27For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed, both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together, 28For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done.

211 posted on 06/22/2012 7:02:32 PM PDT by kindred (Jesus Christ is the Lord God and Messiah of Israel, a present help in time of trouble.)
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To: nopardons

NOPE! Read the Bible again. Pilate washed his hands of the decision and left it to the crowd of “Jews” (the term Jew only applies to descendants of Judah and was never used or heard prior to) and Pagans. The Romans crucified Christ as a result of the crowds chants. You are correct in one aspect. Pilate could have stopped the murder but again he did not want to go against the crowd for fear of revolt.


212 posted on 11/02/2012 7:58:33 PM PDT by Marso
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To: xm177e2

“Does it MATTER which was the first ethnic group to live in Israel, millenia ago”?

Isn’t this the main point of the discussion or have I imagined the last 200 post’s?


213 posted on 11/02/2012 8:37:39 PM PDT by Marso
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To: 100American

New to this website, not exactly sure how the comments are supposed to work but anyways. I felt like I should link a YouTube video released by Dennis Prager of PragerUniversity of whom studied this whole conflict in serious depth at Columbia Universities’ Middle East Institute at its school of International Affairs, explaining the situation of Israel and the history of the state of Israel. Includes some of the points this very list points out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EDW88CBo-8


214 posted on 07/19/2014 12:19:38 PM PDT by captainward
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To: x

Heads we win, Tails you lose. A policy Terrorists can live with.


215 posted on 07/19/2014 12:24:00 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: 100American

Question. I don’t know anything about the history but am interested in this topic. So, Did Moses go through the land and kill all of the natives prior to King David founding the city? What is the biblical history, exactly? From the very, very beginning. Were Islamic-like believers occupying the land? Even though they had not yet been “labeled”.

Thanks,

Tim


216 posted on 08/18/2015 8:27:44 AM PDT by Timbo67
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To: so_real

all thos muslims who claim to be the agents of god should not worry about SO CALLED palestinIANS who themselves have occupied israel. They forget about the millions of muslims who are being persecuted by muslims themselves in places like Baluschistan who are being killed and whose women are being raped by the rogue and illegitimate pakistani state. Why are the muslims silent . are they not hippocrates?..it is an utter shame and disgrace. I also wish to say that all the hindu priest muslim imams and christian pastors who are fleecing innocent people of moneys and getting rich should be given capital punishment also.They are bluffing people daily about heaven and hell and about the life hereafter. stop this rubbish and let evey human being seek peace whichever way he/she wants to. YOU HAVE NO MANDATE FROM ANY GOD. SO STOP FOOLING THE WORLD.tHIS IS NOT A VULGAR POST . IT IS MY OPINION AND I SHOULD BE ENTITLED TO EXPRESS MY OPINION.


217 posted on 06/25/2016 5:03:33 AM PDT by fightforjustice1
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To: fightforjustice1

Welcome to FR; your post was not vulgar. Our opinions differ in that I find it no stretch of the imagination to believe every clock has a clock maker, and that we are clockworks to our Creator. The challenge for me is to avoid the con artists and seek the true God. This is not so difficult when you measure religions by their actions and the fruits of their labor. And though there are shysters in every religion, some religions are nothing but shysters. On the last day there will be only one God, and so only one religion. How cool will it be to have discerned and followed that one true Creator even before meeting Him in person? Neither the Christ nor the true Christian living by His example would force you to stand with us. But we'd welcome you. And we'd enjoy your company. Best wishes to you.


218 posted on 06/25/2016 6:18:51 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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