Men Must Champion Feminine Women

In the words of novelist Alex Waugh, she draws a man "into a magic circle where everything is fresher, cleaner; where there is peace, warmth, comfort. She produces in him the desire to be his best."

Nothing on earth is so fine. On this continent, increasingly nothing is so rare.

The Official State Gender Ideology, feminism, has decreed that femininity is a "stereotype" invented by men to oppress women.

Feminism is no longer about equal opportunity for women. It is a thuggish, devious synthesis of Marxism and lesbianism used by ruling elites to undermine individuals and weaken society. It is to society what AIDS is to the body.

But men are also to blame. We have accepted the feminist lie that women should be independent and pursue careers. We have abandoned the many gentle and loving women who instinctively want to build their lives around a man. We have pursued the busy, neurotic, overachievers who guarantee us heartbreak, divorce and broken family.

By pursuing these women, we are really seeking our own lost masculinity. Many of us are happy to evade the responsibility of earning a living, and taking charge of a family. In either case we are condemning ourselves to frustration and arrested development.

For heterosexuals to find fulfillment, each sex must assume its instinctive part. The sex act is a metaphor: The man's spirit pervades the female and they become one. The male spirit must be active and the female receptive.

Many men ignore willing, feminine women who can provide Wholeness. These women cannot thrive, we cannot thrive, unless we recognize, defend and love them.

1) A feminine woman is motivated by love of husband and children. She is the heart of the family, devoted to her husband and children's wellbeing. This is her career. A woman who is preoccupied with another demanding career cannot pay attention to her family. Love is mainly paying attention. There is a New Yorker cartoon where a child is wearing a welder's mask and using a blowtorch to write, "I need love" on the living room wall. His mother says to her friend: "He's just doing that to get attention."

A feminine woman may have another career but it is her second priority. She is not driven by personal ambition. I liked the movie Legally Blonde because the heroine showed that she could excel in the work world but why bother? She had a more important goal: a husband and family.

Career is a feminist lie. Since when are careers the source of human fulfillment? What is so great about being an Assistant Loan Manager at a bank? Is society expected to provide successive legions of eager feminists with "fulfilling" careers to compensate for their loveless lives?

2) Feminists are teaching women to be "strong and independent." This is not feminine. Men respond to a woman's need. We want to rescue the damsel in distress and to win her favors. This archetype is also innate in women. She wants to be enlisted by a man.

A feminine woman DEPENDS on a man. This doesn't mean she is an emotional waif. She is competent but she doesn't pretend to be independent. Men and women need each other to be whole. As long as I have my wife, I am self-sufficient. So is she.

3) Just as the woman is the heart of the family, the man is the head and shoulders. A feminine woman is her husband's partner. They make decisions together but he has the last word. Men must be the visionaries, the navigators, and the captains. A woman's most important decision is the man she chooses to love.

4) A feminine woman is reserved. She wants a man to pay attention to "her" so she doesn't flaunt her sexuality. A woman wants to be loved more than anything in the world. She wants to be "known" in all her divinity. This happens when she is truly loved. Is it a coincidence the Bible uses the word "know" as in Abraham "knew" Sarah, to speak of sexual intercourse? All women are beautiful when they are loved.

Women's liberation has taught women to pursue sex for its own sake, as though they were men. This is not feminine. If a man prefers a new car, why would he marry a "used" woman? He doesn't want a car that's been driven by a lot of men. He doesn't know where it's been, what damage has been done. He will choose a brand new car. In my wife's words: "A man wants to be a woman's first lover; a woman wants to be his last."

I'm not saying all women should save their virginity until marriage but certainly sex should be reserved for honest, loving relationships. Men need to stop looking for sex and start looking for the right woman. That's the only guarantee of sex anyway.

If men chose wives with the same attention as cars, more marriages would succeed. Women are the vehicles to the future, in terms of emotional fulfillment and family. If men knew where they wanted to go, they would choose women who would get them there. They would not be blinded by sex.

5) A feminine woman tries to please the man she loves. No, this has not been outlawed, it just seems that way. A feminine woman generates love by giving love. She empowers her man by believing in him. Love is expressed in actions and effort. Baking a pie is an act of love. So is making the home beautiful. Are we so blind, impoverished and demoralized that we cannot appreciate this? Why have we allowed feminists to stigmatize homemaking? Women would be more than happy to be homemakers if it received the recognition and appreciation that it deserves.

A feminine woman has grace, beauty and wisdom. These all come from staying in touch with her spirit and not pursuing an exhausting career that requires masculine qualities.

On the "Oprah" Show, I saw three young women interviewed about the "quarter-life" crisis. They were having trouble getting their careers on track and because of their families' expectations they were falling apart.

Oprah urged these girls to "follow their instincts." No one mentioned that for women in their early twenties, "following their instincts" might entail having a baby. No one is following their instincts any more. They are doing what feminists tell them to do.

It's time men started listening to their instincts too. We want to be the masters of our domain. We want to love and possess ("pay attention," "know") our wives. We want to create families that are loving, lively and happy. It's time we embraced the quiet, unassuming beautiful women who want to be our soul mates.

Yes I understand what you are saying. The pictures here are not of the level of Playboy. But do you feel they are necessary to the discussion at hand? Do you feel the comments that follow add to the debate? I clicked on a thread about racism and poof...in pops pics of boodilicous Destiniy's Child. No, the pictures weren't pornographic by Playboy standards, but they weren't relevant to the subject of racism. I guess someone else agreed they weren't sexual enough so on the next page they posted this one. I did what you suggested and left the thread because I'd had enough....not of the debate but of the accessories (grin)

Please understand, this isn't about FR or free speech or even the poor men who get there jollies flashing pics like this. My confusion lays in why men who say they want X sort of woman tolerate this behavior, (which I deem is the giggle factor), in mixed company at a place that is designed for more serious pursuits.

It feels very much like the scenerio I described in my quiz, except that as I wander from room to room, I keep running into guys flashing pics for the thrill of it and no one seems to mind. No man does what half the men I asked said was the appropriate response.

Now relate this to the subject of this thread.....that a woman should make a home that is valuable and inviting to a man. Should not the man at least try and make a society that is valuable and inviting to a woman? I'd think it would be hard to remain feminine in a world where you had to grow such a tough skin to sheild yourselve from the lewd and crude. Men cry for pre sixties women yet seem not to make the connection between the changes in the women and the changes in the world they must exist in.

Now it's my turn to ask if I'm making any sense.

#78 Suddenly, a man whips out playboy and starts showing the pictures and making the type of comments playboy pictures usually evoke. What do you do and why? Thanks for playing along!

Watch what they do, not what they say they would do. This thead demonstrates how some men would really behave in your scenario: Teen testifies he was totally teacher's pet. Take notes. I did. Some of the responses changed my perceptions of those involved.

Real women want real men. Arrested development at the giggling locker room stage of euphemisms for female anatomy is so unattractive.

Should not the man at least try and make a society that is valuable and inviting to a woman? I'd think it would be hard to remain feminine in a world where you had to grow such a tough skin to sheild yourselve from the lewd and crude.

You are absolutely correct, but your ideas won't get much mileage here on FR. Not too many men here realize that a culture saturated in female sexual imagery is not likely to produce the kind of women they want for wives. And it is completely illogical to expect that you can sleep with as many women as you want, and then be able to find a faithful, dedicated wife. (Where are all those women going to come from, anyway?)

I tried to point this out on a thread a few days ago, and was hammered for my "anti-man" comments.

Does that leadship also include leading other men into creating a society that is more welcoming to women? Must it be sharks to fight and not crude behavior? Cannot this protection extend to women other than their mate?

The article says a woman should not confuse her priorities. That if she focuses on a career, she developes different skills and attitudes that may not serve her well in the job of wife and mother. I'm wondering if perhaps it extends beyond that statement, beyond the workplace and into society itself. How does a women maintain her femininity in a world that seems to demand she tough it out, get used to it, get over it or leave.

I think there is a distiction between being hard and being strong. Women can be either or both. Men seem to value 'strong' but don't want 'hard' yet they don't seem to be willing to fight the battles that would maintain a society in which a woman need not harden herself. I have enjoyed this and will come back to it and read all the posts, but right now I have to finish the venison stew that I have been working on. Beleive it or not I did shoot the deer. I would have rather my husband had been here to drag it back and gut it though. (grin).

I worked for many years to help pay for a business my husband was buying. Once that note was paid, we decided I could quit working outside our home and be a full time homemaker! Like you, I heard comments often of "don't you work?"....

I think times have changed a bit, or perhaps my reaction has changed. Lately I more often hear, "You are so lucky to be a stay-at-home Mom".....

It wasn't so much luck, as planning. And I feel fortunate that I am able to have as my number one priority, my family and home.

But, even if a woman works, her home should be a refuge - a place where her family wants to be and feels safe and loved. That "refuge" has always been my goal....and the relationship my children have with their Father and I shows this very well.

OK...stew is safe. (grin)

I'm sorry I missed this before. What do I want....

I want to walk from my car to the grocery without having some guy hoot and grab his crotch. I don't want to stand in front of the mirror and practice looking tough, practice flipping the bird with conviction as had been recommended by a friend.

I want to be able to remain feminine I guess. It's not like there is a switch that you can turn off and on. Well, that's not totally true, but the more you use that switch, the more often you have to turn off the woman in you, the harder it gets to turn it back on I guess.

Men who want a feminine women need to think about what there is about this society than creates the opposite.

Come live in Ireland. The average house price is somewhere in the region of £120,000. That's for a semi-detached modest three bedroomed home.

It takes TWO incomes to finance a mortgage of that size, because the average wage is in or around £20,000. I happen to earn more than that. But if I fall in love with a guy earning less money than me, I'd marry him, if he is the `right' guy. But I would like to have a roof over the heads of my 'potential' children. So why shouldn't I work to do that.

Your argument is void. You are thinking black and white. There are so many grey areas here.

My father lost his job during the recession years in Ireland. My mother (god rest her soul) scrubbed floors the length and breadth of this town to make sure my brother and I got on. Both of us, are now, through her efforts, both fully qualified professional people.

Yeah, my Mam could have stayed at home and brushed my hair and stuff. But she went out and did what had to be done to make sure that her kids, had what she didn't have...a damn good education.

You trying to intimate that MY MOTHER wasn't a lady for doin' that? Damn sure she was. The classiest woman you would ever meet!

So, no! I make no apologies for saying that the sweeping generalisations in the posted article are nothing but...as they say in Ireland...horseshite! (oops, not a very ladylike word...but then, you wouldn't expect anything better from me, would ye?!)

This is my idea of total femininity...

She is beautiful, intelligent, supportive, enticing, warm & fuzzy, AND patriotic!! Every man should be as lucky as Fall Guy!!

Snow Bunny IS femininty!!

By the way, she has this awesome alter ego too...

You are the best, Snow Bunny!

Semper Fidelis,
Norb

I agree with all of this, yet I'm still single. Why? Because the men I know would rather have an exotic supermodel then someone less than perfect with decent values.

If guys want to change society back, they're going to have to go after women like me.

I don't think I've seen you, but the most beautiful woman in the world, with whom I fell in love, would not have come close to making any 'supermodel' lists. You can see a photo on my profile page. I miss her.

In the U.S., we kill a million unborn children a year, have two million divorces annually, a quarter of all children are born out of wedlock, half don't have two parents, only a quarter have a parent at home when growing up. And we are the richest society in the history of the world. Sugarcoat it anyway you like, it is a running scandal. Working out of necessity, to avoid the streets, is not the same thing as half the society putting wealth ahead of family, which is exactly what is going on. Try denouncing patriarchy to a privileged, college age young woman who has never seen her father. It doesn't go very far.

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