Posted on 12/04/2001 9:53:48 AM PST by truth4all
Here's one for you.
Thanks, Deny.
But Mum and Dad taught me two wrongs don't make a right.
Oh.
You're Russian?
Or is it just, 'hey, lynchmob! Wait for me!'
No other nation contributed significantly to the defeat of Japan. The Soviet Union? No. The UK? They were still retreating in Burma well into 1944. The Chinese? The Japanese were still advancing wherever they pleased well into 1945.
The Dutch, the French? Hardly.
The Australians? Fought bravely in New Guinea. Zero significant impact.
The US ALONE brought down the Japanese.
You're welcome.
You want me to display leadership here? What do you mean by that? You want me to say "Now, now, Freepers. Stop all this warmongering. There is no reason to go to war. We ought to just issue the suspected terrorists arrest warrants and maybe they will turn themselves in for trial. Maybe if we are nice to them and treat them with respect, they won't hurt us anymore."
Instead, you post ugly Nazi paraphernalia and attempt to paint us with the broad brush of Nazism simply for wanting to avenge the events of 9/11. That is reprehensible and shows a lack of class and leadership on YOUR part. It is good that we did not have this attitude in WW2 or Australia WOULD be a part of the Japanese Empire today.
Yeah, war is hell. If there was a way to conduct a war in which only the enemy were killed and that innocent civilians would be unaffected, I would support it. But there is no way we can conduct a war in this fashion. And as far as nuclear weapons are concerned, we used them in Japan and it can be argued that many lives were saved by bringing an early end to the war. What is the better way. To have 100,000 people instantly killed and have a surrender? Or have over 5,000,000 killed over a long period of time in a bloody war that would have resulted in all of Japan being reduced to smoky ruins?
Keep your disgusting Nazi paraphernalia to yourself. How's that for leadership?
Oh please. That tired old cliche is so lame, especially when misapplied, as it often it. What we are doing in Afghanistan is not "wrong" so your silly equation is thrown out the window. It must be nice to sit back in Australia, thousands of miles from the action, and critique how the Americans defend themselves (and the world) from terrorist scum. I wonder how you would feel if Melbourne or Sydney came under the kind of terrorist act that New York City sustained on 9/11.
Overall I think the United States has done a tremendous job in this war. Think of the thousands upon thousands of bombs we have dropped since this thing started ON TARGET. It is inevitable that a few of these bombs would stray off course and inadvertently hit some civilian areas. That is a shame but just 20 years ago, the civilian deaths would be multiplied by a factor of at least 10. Unfortunately, enemies of the United States will use the few bombs that landed off course to paint us as war criminals. These critics must be put in their places immediately. This nation has bent over backwards to avoid unnecessary civilian casualties.
What currently matters to me are the lives and safety of my family, friends, and those who share my cultural background. Those who would dance and cheer at the deaths of my fellow Americans get no support from me.
I would not dance at their deaths, but I would not cry either
Now THAT'S comedy!
Exactly.
My sympathy is buried under a smouldering pile of rubble. No decent person enjoys the death of innocents ( if- big if ) that is what happened, but war is a bloody, awful business.
They should have thought twice before treading on us....
This is the United States of America. The same Country that saved you convict's asses in WWII. If you think war is so bad why did your Country send troops to Viet Nam?
Under George W. Bush we will no longer sit on our ass and offer lip service ("we will find the people responsible and bring them to justice.") as did "the gutless one".
War is hell and there is no such thing as a "civilian" in terms of modern warfare. There are combatants and non-combatants. Non-combatants comprise of that sector of the population that make up the logistical support in any war effort and in my view represent as legitimate a target for destruction and obliteration as is an infantry man with a rifle.
We can be magnanimous after the enemy totally and completely surrenders, until then there can be no quarter given. The enemy knows quite well what the consequences of engaging in or supporting aggression is.
I also subscribe to the idea that a population of a nation is responsible for the leaders they maintain in power and follow and are therefore responsible for said actions of that leadership. Just as the Germans were responsible for Hitler.
SamAdams76: 5
Byron the Aussie: -7
Comparing us to Nazis because we want to see terrorist networks destroyed is a very low blow. It's ironic too, because the only reason Hitler and the Nazis were able to wreak so much havoc in the world was because good people sat around and did nothing to stop him until it was too late.
The events of 9/11 have given us a golden opportunity and the moral obligation to destroy terrorism before it is able to take hold and cause even more carnage. It means that we, the United States, must conduct unrestricted warfare against these terrorist groups and the nations who harbor them. We are beyond negotiations. We cannot afford to repeat the mistakes of Neville Chamberlain. There will be no "peace in our time" until we eliminate this terrorist scum from the earth. We should not attempt to appease these bastards or seek some sort of co-existence with them. We need to root them out, wherever they may go. We need to go to war against the nations that harbor them and must achieve total victory. The surrender of the nations harboring these terrorists must be unconditional. As the victors, we will have a responsibility to ensure that the conquered nations are able to rule themselves, and give them some help along the way, as we did with Germany and Japan in WW2. The long term payoff will be worth it. Look at how successful Germany and Japan are today!
The United States has nothing to be ashamed about. We conducted ourselves honorably after our victory in WW2 and have nothing to apologize for. We are conducting the present war against terrorism honorably and again, we have nothing to apologize for. Is this loud enough and clear enough for you Byron_The_Aussie?
Thanks.
No, stupid.
After a Hellfire missile attack on your village there's only bits and pieces left to bury.
That's a lie.
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