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Aviation Question, hoping there are some oversea-experienced pilots here...
Enquiring Mind | 11/30/2001 | MississippiMan

Posted on 11/29/2001 9:33:01 PM PST by MississippiMan


This is a vanity post.

I'm still working on my novel and once again my research needs have led me back here to FR, where I am most often able to get my questions answered. I've posted this question in aviation forums but have gotten no replies so I thought I'd give it a shot here.

I'm a private pilot myself, but not active and even when I was active it was usually in a Cessna 172 flying within a few hundred miles of home. One of the characters in my novel, however, is fortunate enough to own a private Gulfstream GV-SP corporate jet.

At the moment (literarily speaking), this guy has his corporate pilot whisking him from Omaha, Nebraska to Moscow, Russia. I do my best to maintain an air of authenticity in my writing and since I know nothing about the logistics of such a flight, I'm hoping to find a pilot or pilots here who can fill me in with some details.

  • What would be the likely route a pilot would take from Omaha to Moscow? Time of year is August.
  • The GV-SP has a range of 6750 nautical miles @ .80 mach. Is the above route within that distance; i.e. can the flight be safely made without a refueling stop?
  • Could one pilot realistically make the whole flight or would a co-pilot be required?
  • Are there any other little nuances, things to look for, peculiarites or odd requirements, for that flight that I should know about? Anything at all that comes to mind would be great.

Thanks much for your help. I realize it would be simple enough to download a trial version of some decent flight planning software and get the vanilla answers to the hard-fact questions, but if there are pilots here who could help me out with the nuances for the sake of authenticity I sure would be grateful.

Thanks...

MM




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To: MississippiMan
Check your Freepmail, MM. I like the idea of the pushy owner pushing the pilot. (That *never* happens, right? :-) )

I'll be very happy to do what I can. That's a long trip. The pilot would have to be nuts to fly that without a copilot, if only to get relief from the pushy owner!

FRegards...

21 posted on 11/29/2001 10:20:44 PM PST by bootless
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To: MississippiMan; Travis McGee
The convenient plot device pilot could even be an old ex-Soviet Air Force Colonel, or a smuggler recently out of prison.

This is very good. When we flew to USSR we had to have a Russian Pilot on board to work the radios. LOL! This was quite a picture with the Russian pilot on a USAF C-141 during the cold war.

22 posted on 11/29/2001 10:23:42 PM PST by Balata
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To: Travis McGee
LOL.
23 posted on 11/29/2001 10:24:35 PM PST by patton
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To: Travis McGee
LMBO Man I hated practicing stalls.......That had to be one pucker factor ride :o)

Gotta like a pilot who can indeed "Pile it" anywhere anytime .......Stay Safe !

24 posted on 11/29/2001 10:27:32 PM PST by Squantos
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To: Balata
Have the ex-Soviet Air Force Colonel co-pilot show up at the last minute with a "Super Natasha" in tow, and have them doing vodka shots as their mangled English radio work gets "better and better" crossing the pole.
25 posted on 11/29/2001 10:28:39 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Squantos
I thought it was a very funny story, but most pilots tell me it was insanely reckless. (What if you dropped the key?)

Anyway, it was before the T-birds pranged in in formation.

26 posted on 11/29/2001 10:30:45 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: patton
47 FEET !?!?!?!? "Pilot" Patton ,Not...." PILE IT" !!!

My stall practice comments to Travis are above. I hated that and recovering from spins. I'm told these days they don't teach spins ??? Not required etc etc alledgedly.

Stay Safe !

27 posted on 11/29/2001 10:31:09 PM PST by Squantos
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To: Travis McGee
LOL! I think we're on to something here. We could have this thing written by the time MM checks back. He could be smuggling some of that high priced caviare.
28 posted on 11/29/2001 10:36:58 PM PST by Balata
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To: Travis McGee
After my initial solo. I was out alone as a student pilot coming in on a left hand base at McConnel AFB (Areo Club T-43 Mescelero) when the engine goes bang and at 1500 feet AGL I'm gonna learn what a real dead stick landing is. Best landing I ever made IMHO. Flaps , best glide and picked my landing spot on the runway and turned a short final and put that smoking pig down with no problems. I love to fly when I can afford it.....Guns or Gas , Guns or Gas ?!?!? Damn !

Stay Safe !

29 posted on 11/29/2001 10:38:56 PM PST by Squantos
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To: Balata
Either caviar, or the girl is being rescued from some prosititution ring, strung out on heroin.
30 posted on 11/29/2001 10:41:32 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Squantos
Shoot. I used to take my buddies for $20 hamburgers - "You'all chuck in for the bird, and we'll go to lunch!"

Everyone of them got a left-wing-drop kick-right throttle-back hands-off yoke-back level-out digester.

And they loved it.

31 posted on 11/29/2001 10:42:53 PM PST by patton
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To: Squantos
Yeah, sailing is a lot cheaper, (180 gallons of diesel goes a LONG way at 5 knots!), not to mention the wind is free, and you are already on the surface if the motor craps out or the wind dies.
32 posted on 11/29/2001 10:44:15 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
Poo. The Patchwork has two gas-fueled chevy 350's, 1965-type, 350 hp each, and gets about 2 gallons/mile.
33 posted on 11/29/2001 10:49:10 PM PST by patton
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To: Travis McGee
I guess we would have to throw in the Russian Mafia someplace here too, with some type of connection to a well known political figure.
34 posted on 11/29/2001 10:49:25 PM PST by Balata
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To: patton; Travis McGee
Hey Travis, Patton ever buy you a 20 dollar Burger ??......Me neither :o)

Stay Safe Ya'll........ Steaks & Cold Cervesa on me. Patton Knob Creek in Spring, Travis I'll meet ya half way as I've been to hell and back but Kali scares me.....AZ Kewl ?

35 posted on 11/29/2001 10:51:55 PM PST by Squantos
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To: Balata
The Russian mafia angle has to connect some Soviet era "nomenklatura" elites to today's Russian oligarchs. We'll have the plot rewrite all set for MM by dawn.
36 posted on 11/29/2001 10:53:10 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: patton
I can go over 1000 miles on a full tank, but it does take a week. (Who's in a hurry?)

It's just 1% as fast as a Learjet, but you have a place to stay when you get there.

37 posted on 11/29/2001 10:56:23 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Squantos
Kali scares me too. AZ is far and away superior in every respect except for the lack of an ocean coastline.
38 posted on 11/29/2001 10:57:48 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee; Squantos
This spring my boat. Date up to you guys. Chesapeak Bay, Crabs (I have to make my kids put them back...)
39 posted on 11/29/2001 11:02:26 PM PST by patton
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To: patton
You can't put too much Old Bay seasoning on em for me!
40 posted on 11/29/2001 11:07:53 PM PST by Travis McGee
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