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1 posted on 11/29/2001 10:30:57 AM PST by EclipseVI
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Let's find out right now if we worship the same God, Is Jesus Christ the virgin born Son of the Living God? Part of the Godhead trinity who created everything, and nothing that exists was not created by Jesus?
2 posted on 11/29/2001 10:37:15 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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Very good article but I predict:
"I may be a dreamer, but I promise you, I am not the only one."
...will receive at least half the comments on this thread.

We conservatives love to hate our liberal scapegoats like John Lennon.

3 posted on 11/29/2001 10:38:39 AM PST by Illbay
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Well written, is EclipseVI the author?

Also, I understand that Islam reveres Jesus. Islam doesn't see Jesus as the son of God by he is the messiah (I thought the two were the same)? I have read that Islam believes in the virgin birth, but if Islam does not see Jesus as the son of God, how do Muslims understand the virgin birth.

4 posted on 11/29/2001 10:41:28 AM PST by Darth Reagan
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I don`t believe a word of this post. He makes no mention of the US Colors. Ever see a Muslim with a US Flag? I never have. More puffery by Islam trying to make nice. Remember 09/11/01 Forever.
6 posted on 11/29/2001 10:45:00 AM PST by vladog
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We also have a dual anxiety because our way of life, which is not far different from our Christian and Jewish counterparts, is under attack.

Hey...here we go again!!!!

We revere Jesus as a great prophet and the messiah of God. He is mentioned by name in the Quran 33 times.

It also says that He was an apostle of God, nothing more.

How about a discussion about how the Quran directs the Muslim not to be a friend of the Christian or the Jew? Or that it says that a Muslim that kills a kafir or unbeliever should not be punished? Or directs that the unbeliever should be killed?

Could you explain how Mohammed's attitude towards Christians and Jews got more and more hostile as he gained political and military power?

"...yet the Prophet Muhammad's wife, Khadijah, was one of the most successful merchants in all of Arabia."

Was this the nine year old?

...pray to what our Christian brothers call God...

What I call God is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. For you, that's Allah, a special human prophet, and the angel Gabriel. Not quite the same thing.

7 posted on 11/29/2001 10:45:07 AM PST by Tennessee_Bob
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...we turn our face to Mecca to pray to what our Christian brothers call God

Now, this is news to me. Moslems believe that God is one in essence, and eternally exists in three distinct Persons -- Father, Son and Holy Spirit? Moslems believe that salvation can be enjoyed only through believing in Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord? Moslems believe that we are saved by grace alone through faith in Jesus Christ alone? Moslems believe that the Bible alone is His verbal self-revelation?

This isn't what I was given to believe.

Or you're being just a little loose with your words.

I have other responses, but this will do for starters.

Dan
What Is Biblical Christianity?
How Can I Know God?

8 posted on 11/29/2001 10:45:09 AM PST by BibChr
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How do you feel about:

That in nearly all middle east Muslim countries it is against the law to practice Christianity and that is punishable by death for conversion?
That your religion teaches that anyone not Muslim is an infidel and is not to be treated as human?
That in nearly every country with a Muslim majority there is severe persecution of non-muslims?

11 posted on 11/29/2001 10:49:22 AM PST by 2banana
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These guys are weasels. Some more crazed than others. The way to flush them out is to simply ask if they support the U.S. efforts to wipe out the Taliban.

So far, I have not heard even one Muslim answer, "yes". As soon as you ask the question, all the weasel words come out, "I do not support aggression of any kind." "The Taliban is reacting to years of American foreign policy." blah, blah blah.

Stinkin' unAmerican weasels!

12 posted on 11/29/2001 10:50:41 AM PST by Wm Bach
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7 Million Muslims in America. The sound of support for our nation and our troops is deafening.NOT!

Please, where are the peace-loving Islamic Americans showing support for this great nation? I watch the news, and nothing. I listen to the radio, nothing. What are you waiting for?

13 posted on 11/29/2001 10:52:18 AM PST by airborne
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I'm sure you have noticed that you have got your work cut out for you here. Many folks have only seen the worst of Islam manifested in terrorism and extremist governments (and it doesn't help that the only Muslim nation that's a republic is Turkey).

Good luck.

14 posted on 11/29/2001 10:52:37 AM PST by Darth Reagan
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Well said. Please remember that we will destroy those who have vowed to destroy us. Those who would destroy America are the enemy, whether they be domestic or foreign, Muslim, Christian, Jew or Atheist. God knows that all are represented. It is my wish that all are identified and dealt with now and forever. All who are not with the terrorists must take a visible stand against them.
15 posted on 11/29/2001 10:52:55 AM PST by prov1813man
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Diaspora?

Huh?

American born and bred, and he states he's living in a DIASPORA?

Fiddlestix!!

END your diaspora now, young man: LEAVE America. Go home NOW.

16 posted on 11/29/2001 10:56:15 AM PST by meridia
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The real problem with what is said here is that Moslems say that they revere Jesus, but then they take away his sacrifice by stating that he did not die on the cross, and they put words in his mouth that say he is not God, and would never have said so. And they put him ninth on their list of holy men, giving the self-admitted rapist and pedophile Mohammed number 1 status. Thus they exclude themselves from the Heaven that Christ will rule over, and consign themselves to an eternity with Mohammed and his puppet god, Allah.
18 posted on 11/29/2001 11:00:23 AM PST by Excuse_Me
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We revere Jesus as a great prophet and the messiah of God.

But they also rever the prophet Mohammed, who as far as I can see was a ruthless despot, a military aggressor and conquerer, and a rapist.

I am not a Christian, but as I understand it, Jesus never killed anyone, mounted a military attack on others' territory, or forced 6 year old girls into a lifetime of sexual slavery under some weird Muslim doctrine of "marriage."

23 posted on 11/29/2001 11:10:20 AM PST by Maceman
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25 posted on 11/29/2001 11:17:32 AM PST by Moleman
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It's about time to introduce "Judeo-Muslim-Christian".

Me? I'd stick with "Christian". Christian equals Western. No others need apply.

30 posted on 11/29/2001 11:24:27 AM PST by madrussian
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Dumb.
33 posted on 11/29/2001 11:28:22 AM PST by Havisham
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I pray for peace and have read Dr. King's "I Have a Dream" speech ninety-six times.

What do you do, keep a tally sheet?

I am a Christian, and I am an American. I am proud of both and will compromise neither.

Jesus is LORD.

38 posted on 11/29/2001 11:39:22 AM PST by mombonn
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We also have a dual anxiety because our way of life, which is not far different from our Christian and Jewish counterparts, is under attack.

Under attack? By whom? Is the attack simply a response to the 9/11 WTC atrocity - thus being defense, not offense?

4,000 people died on 9/11, killed in the name of a belief. We're not hearing much outcry by believers against that atrocity - lacking the outcry, many non-believers can only come to one conclusion...

40 posted on 11/29/2001 11:45:21 AM PST by ctdonath2
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When I read something like this now, I like to know when this good old boy picked his team. Was it before or after OBL and the Taliban boys got their arses kicked.
42 posted on 11/29/2001 11:53:08 AM PST by DeckTheHallsHolly
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