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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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Comment #661 Removed by Moderator

To: mlo
But I do think those claims only have whatever weight they do because of the donation model you run FR on.

I disagree. People freely choose to donate. That they do so is nobody else's business. How Jim spends the money donated is also nobody else's business.

662 posted on 11/28/2001 10:53:21 PM PST by malakhi
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To: CounterCounterCulture
That's it. He's a warlock! (Is that in the book? I've been scared to read them because of all these threads; I was afraid if I read them, I'd become obsessed with posting threads about them on FR!)
663 posted on 11/28/2001 10:54:27 PM PST by Howlin
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To: this_ol_patriot
I have never been able to master those microphone chats.......I use to host CNN chats, but there were WAY too many liberals over there!
664 posted on 11/28/2001 10:55:23 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Jim Robinson
I love FR. It helped get me through the Clinton years.

The libs are intimidated by the FR show of strength. They resort to lies in order to discredit it. This is, as we know, their normal MO.

665 posted on 11/28/2001 10:56:20 PM PST by CnsrvatvLdy
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To: GeronL
Indeed and gave it a holiday bump
666 posted on 11/28/2001 10:56:31 PM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: Howlin
good lord, enough about Harry Potty!

the real mind altering satanic books are about Xanth, all the Satamists I have met have copies. I've read a couple and was scared about what the result was, it didn't change my opinions it was like a bad drug.

anyways... read the Hobbit (Lord of the Rings), its a great book..

667 posted on 11/28/2001 10:57:55 PM PST by GeronL
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To: A.J.Armitage
Does anyone doubt that Ashcroft would've treated Elian the same way Reno did?

I once thought you had a brain.

668 posted on 11/28/2001 10:58:06 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: Jim Robinson; John Robinson; Bob J; DoughtyOne; Clinton's a liar; Clarity; BADJOE; Alamo-Girl
Thanks Jim.

Now, if only every one of us who gives the service a fair flogging would donate a Dollar per day -- and from the resulting cash flow; after you are paid a a salary comensurate with your creativity, inovation and prodigious efforts; we organize as a political force to be reckoned with -- what a force we will be!

669 posted on 11/28/2001 10:58:08 PM PST by Brian Allen
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freepo ergo sum
670 posted on 11/28/2001 10:58:36 PM PST by Michael Barnes
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To: GeronL
Okay, now you are telling yourself not to take it personally. =o)

LOL.

That establishes once and for all . .

She's moderate!

And over-worked.

671 posted on 11/28/2001 10:58:38 PM PST by alcuin
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To: EdZep; Jim Robinson
I think it's time to have posting priviledges reserved to paid sponsors. Monthly fee, with optional lower yearly rate. While I have been an irregular donor, I would certainly have kept myself paid up, if required (and I will donate this round).

We would see fewer of the fun-but-now-overwhelming type threads. Disruptors would melt away, or at least help support the forum they seek to destroy.

I've been a half-hearted user of other services that have instituted fees... and I stopped using them. This forum, I would not walk away from.

Thanks, Jim.

My thoughts exactly. Saves me the trouble of typing it. A subscription level tied to posting priveleges. But, of course, be ready to refund whomever gets banned. You'll either be rid of the riff raff or they'll have to PAY you for the purposes of casting stones at you. A win-win as I see it.

672 posted on 11/28/2001 10:59:51 PM PST by Tall_Texan
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To: Howlin
NO KIDDING!! Man, I want that button on my keyboard... or maybe not...

With great power comes great responsibility. I think Yoda said that...

673 posted on 11/28/2001 11:00:15 PM PST by dandelion
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To: Texaggie79
sup man? Thanks for the pings lately..
674 posted on 11/28/2001 11:01:42 PM PST by Michael Barnes
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To: unix
no prob
675 posted on 11/28/2001 11:02:25 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: Howlin
Don't know. I don't have kids so I have not been subjected to them. As far as I know, Harry Potter is a character from M*A*S*H* (oh wait, that's Col. Sherman Potter...never mind.)

Also, that may have been my first Harry Potter reference to any thread.

676 posted on 11/28/2001 11:03:04 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: Jim Robinson
Could the world survive without Free Republic????

Of course...

Would the world be a better place without Free Republic??

The answer is painfully obvious.......NO.

This place 'makes waves'.....and in doing so it will attact enemies.

Enemies who are bent on the destruction of all those who stand for Freedom...and the free discussion of ideas...and ideals.

Don't let the bastards grind you down.

redrock

678 posted on 11/28/2001 11:03:24 PM PST by redrock
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To: My Favorite Headache
The Captain Of The Red October Super Ping's is in...everyone watch out!

;^)

679 posted on 11/28/2001 11:03:25 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: Aurelius
Go Here>>>

http://www.freepstuff.com/market/cgi-bin/market.cgi?hr=main.html&session_id=-1

680 posted on 11/28/2001 11:04:04 PM PST by BADJOE
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