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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: Jim Robinson
It would be unpatriotic to shut this site down. Someone has got to speak up for freedom.
41 posted on 11/28/2001 7:41:28 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; Mudboy Slim; Coop
It sure has gotten big, hasn't it? So different from the start. This is a heads-up post.
42 posted on 11/28/2001 7:41:33 PM PST by GummyIII
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To: Jim Robinson
Those who want to keep it going speak up.

AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! nO! NO! Don't kill it!!!!!

This is the best news site on the web with expert (and not so expert) commentary to boot!

Who will there be to separate the wheat from the chaff of information daily????

(note to self: remember to send money to FR)

43 posted on 11/28/2001 7:41:43 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith
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To: Jim Robinson
"We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today."

"...but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses."

Gee, JR, charge a $2.00 a month user fee...Ought to also keep some of the rif-raff out. Anyone not willing to pay $24.00 a year to participate here doesn't belong here anyway!

44 posted on 11/28/2001 7:41:47 PM PST by Joe 6-pack
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To: Lady GOP
Put your do$$ars here.
45 posted on 11/28/2001 7:41:48 PM PST by eloy
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To: Jim Robinson
Please stop posting these insipid vanities. Do I have to hit the abuse button?

If you charged a monthly fee for posting, I'd subscribe. I'm addicted.

46 posted on 11/28/2001 7:41:55 PM PST by breakem
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To: Jim Robinson; BADJOE
Well, this thread will go several thousand!

Free Republic a fraud?

That's the equivalent of claiming Bill Clinton tells the truth! Or that Hillary Clinton is the epitome of virtue!

What a lie for anyone to make that claim!

I hereby testify that I have contributed to Free Republic voluntarily over the past 3 years, with no one compelling me and no one promising me anything.

I further declare that it is now time to make another voluntary donation to keep Free Republic alive and well.

(Getting the checkbook - check in the mail, Badjoe!)

Thanks for the reminder, JR! I am sorry you are letting your enemies back on this site.....but you, like our President, have more grace and character than the whole lot of these detractors put together with Hill and Bill sitting on top!

It's up to everyone who cares to keep Free Republic alive.

47 posted on 11/28/2001 7:42:04 PM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Jim Robinson
Keep it going! Don't let the lefty demonrats get their way! They've always wanted FreeRepublic shut down.
48 posted on 11/28/2001 7:42:04 PM PST by baseballfanjm
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To: Jim Robinson
Is there any way to continuously increase the revenue you need to operate by selling more advertising space on this site? Or, raising the prices for such ads? Just trying to help in some way. Surely this is an audience certain advertisers want to reach.
49 posted on 11/28/2001 7:42:20 PM PST by summer
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To: zeaal
I think so. There might be a link to something like that on the home page.
50 posted on 11/28/2001 7:42:21 PM PST by VA Advogado
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To: DCBryan1
Might weed out the disruptors too.
51 posted on 11/28/2001 7:42:22 PM PST by BOBWADE
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To: DCBryan1
$5/month (to begin with) for posting priveleges would be well worth it.

Then credit members with free months for every new member signed up.

52 posted on 11/28/2001 7:42:37 PM PST by semper_libertas
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To: Jim Robinson
Please keep it alive, Jim. You're needed out "there" and here at home, on FR. And I agree, you ARE the Rush Limbaugh of the internet. PHOOEY to the dorks who keep criticizing. I'd like to see THEM do a better job.
53 posted on 11/28/2001 7:42:39 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: Jim Robinson
This is the best site on The Internet. I've contributed money in the past and will continue to do so in the future.

Keep up the good work.

Bart.

54 posted on 11/28/2001 7:42:57 PM PST by blackbart.223
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To: Lady GOP
Try this one instead.

Put your do$$ars here.

55 posted on 11/28/2001 7:42:59 PM PST by eloy
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To: Jim Robinson
You would be better off banning the "porn caucus" and Christian bashers, and letting the tin foilers stay. If people want to preach porn, they can go to the dem sites.
56 posted on 11/28/2001 7:43:05 PM PST by Hacksaw
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To: Jim Robinson
It might now be the time for FR to charge a membership fee, and I admit this as one of the poorer FReepers. I have recently decided to give $5 a month and I kept to it so far (like I said- I'm poor). I have the next payment in my pocket BTW.

It might be time to charge, say, $12 per year for membership and still ask for donations to cover the rest.

Maybe have a basic 'free' service (although besides Freepmail, I'm not sure what could be segregated that way). Its probably come to the point that FR has to make a decision about its finances, as sad as that might be. You can run ads (expect that would be hard), charge membership, curtail postings sizes and such (sorry JohnHuang2).

Something does need to be done.

57 posted on 11/28/2001 7:43:14 PM PST by GeronL
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To: Jim Robinson
The most intelligent, contentious, thought-provoking, downright hilarious, comforting, galling, addictive place on the entire World Wide Web "go away"?

Good lord! FR is more than a site, it is a true community -- friends and relations sharing their lives within the big life of the world. The place is genius, is what it is, and it is too perfectly good to do anything but grow.

Thanks so much, Jim.

58 posted on 11/28/2001 7:43:20 PM PST by JennysCool
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To: Jim Robinson
I'm In
59 posted on 11/28/2001 7:43:38 PM PST by Unicorn
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To: Jim Robinson
Put me in a padded cell. I'll be going into convulsions.
60 posted on 11/28/2001 7:43:43 PM PST by Incorrigible
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