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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: Jim Robinson
FREEREPUBLIC is my virtual home. Where else would I go ?
3,621 posted on 08/05/2002 8:58:37 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: Yehuda
Ummmm .. I was joking .. I've worked to hard on those fundraiser for it to go way

If you don't remember me .. you might remember this


3,623 posted on 08/05/2002 9:14:52 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Jim Robinson
A day without FR is like a day without sunsh....oh, wait, this is Wisconsin.....is like a day without COSMIC BROWNIES! I can give up the brownies any time, REALLY I can, but give up Freeping? Sorry, can't be done.
3,624 posted on 08/05/2002 9:22:51 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim,

I am relatively new to the Free Republic, but find it stimulating, informative and a place for the conservative voice to be heard (even though we seem to be preaching to the choir - too bad we don't have some liberal/lefties here that we can engage in dialogue).

I think you should take the total budget for the year - say, $264,000, divide it into quarters, i.e., $66,000 per quarter. Then let us know what our share would be. Make it voluntary. For example, if $25 per quarter is the amount that would cover the costs, make that the voluntary contribution that each should contribute. Obviously some won't, so others will voluntarily contribute more.

We want to keep this forum alive, Jim, so let us know what we have to do to make that happen.

3,625 posted on 08/05/2002 9:29:44 PM PDT by Tom Jefferson
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To: Jim Robinson
Can we buy shares of FR?
3,626 posted on 08/05/2002 9:32:17 PM PDT by RJayneJ
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To: Tom Jefferson
I'm relatively new to this forum...and love it. Informative, thought-provoking, straight-forward. No shrinking violets here, thank God!
3,627 posted on 08/05/2002 9:33:24 PM PDT by ASP
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To: Yehuda
It should either restate its goals / purpose, or shut down.
3,628 posted on 08/05/2002 9:34:34 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: editor-surveyor; wotan; mlocher; Jim Robinson
The genesis of the "problem" between Israel and Palestine began when Abraham had a child named Ishmael with his wife's, Sarah's, servant, Hagar, in accordance with the accepted practice of the times (even tho God had promised Abraham that he would be the father of the nation that would ultimately bless the whole world--Abraham and Sarah were getting on in years and, impatient, went ahead and had a child thro other means). Abraham's son with Sarah (his legal wife), Isaac, received the birthright thereby dissing Ishmael (altho God did not in any way turn Ishmael away). Ishmael is the father of the greatest enemy of Israel.

I read nearly 100 posts on this thread before I realized I was reading posts from November of 2001. Why is this thread still alive??

3,629 posted on 08/05/2002 9:39:57 PM PDT by viaveritasvita
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To: Jim Robinson
Keep it or sell it to Me !!!/ I have the time and the Servers available....
3,630 posted on 08/05/2002 9:44:27 PM PDT by qwert
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To: DeadManRunning
Steiger's Law": "People involved in a structure spend more time and energy maintaining that structure than in working toward its goals."

Thanks. I'll file that one FFR.

Here's one of my favorites:

"Cole's Law: Cabbage; finely chopped, mayonnaise, lemon juice, and pickle relish; 1 tsp."

3,632 posted on 08/05/2002 10:13:04 PM PDT by strela
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To: KLT
I would hate to see 'Free Republic' go by the boards...

but are we going to actually make a change or are we going to talk about it???

3,633 posted on 08/05/2002 10:13:19 PM PDT by Nitro
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To: Yehuda
stay
3,634 posted on 08/05/2002 10:16:47 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: KLT
I think I might be able to arrange a section of "Shea Stadium!!"

Or you can call promotions!!

3,635 posted on 08/05/2002 10:26:47 PM PDT by Nitro
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To: Jim Robinson
THANK YOU, JIM !
3,636 posted on 08/05/2002 10:36:18 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Jim Robinson
I just started to become a regular here and it is one of the best information sites available and I know that many people use it that may never post including well known conservatives.

I just recently made a donation and will make another one when I get caught up on some of my automobile costs, lol.

But I hope it can keep going. Jim and the gang have done a great job and continue to do so.

Brad
3,637 posted on 08/05/2002 10:51:52 PM PDT by bradactor
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To: Jim Robinson; BADJOE
there's so much to say about this place, but it's late,
so may it suffice to say that FR has truly become part of my life.

joe, check your inbox for a new cc contri ...

3,638 posted on 08/05/2002 10:57:45 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: Jim Robinson
Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Oh, for pete's sake! I can't believe I'm hearing you take these twits seriously.

If I were in your shoes, they'd have to prove to me that they weren't just jealous because they didn't think of it first, and can't write software, before I'd even bother to listen to them.

Frankly, I'm surprised you even bother to *ban* them. They probably LIKE that; it's the most attention they've gotten since their mommy threw her empty whisky bottle at them at age 4 (and they didn't deserve the attention on *that* occasion *either*).

I don't even **CARE** if you're getting FILTHY RICH off this site. Worse yet, now that there are a bunch of no-life LOSERs *whining* about it, I HOPE you're getting filthy rich off this site. WHO CARES.

Liberals HATE this site. It has a howlfulness rating of 349 megaReagans. That's all *I* care about.

In fact, if you're NOT getting rich off this site, I think you should start TRYING to get rich off it ***JUST*** so you can FLAUNT it at them, the way Limbaugh does.

Frigging weasels. I can't believe it.

3,639 posted on 08/05/2002 11:13:36 PM PDT by fire_eye
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To: Jim Robinson; Arthur McGowan
btw, had anyone pinged Arthur to this thread yet ?    
3,640 posted on 08/05/2002 11:15:28 PM PDT by tomkat
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